I'm not bashing him, do you as Liverpool fans think he's still capable at his age of competing at the highest level?
Brentan Rodgers
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Oh yeah, right up until that unfortunate slip.
I do in the right system, aye.
The one where he's sat on the bench?
Totally agree. Unfortunately he is a great manager and I can see Liverpool always challenging for honors as long as he is their manager. Hopefully someother club poaches him away from Anfield soon.
Have to agree with this. Liverpool did lose to Chelsea two nil, both goals were down to tactical mistakes compounding individual errors. Obvious Gerrards slip was highly comical, but Ba still has to run the ball from half way. The set up and gung-ho approach meant the was no cover and a needlessly high line that further congested midfield. The second goal was a carbon copy with possession cheaply surrendered by Chelsea's goal and willian has the whole pitch to run before squaring to a torres whose legs have gone. As funny as Gerrard slipping was and as much as I want him to be the sole reason your campaign collapsed, had he not slipped your tactics were like to yield a conceded goal irrespectively. Fortunately slippy G was the cherry on the icing on the sweetest cake in a bitter bitter season.
He's doing very well and I'm not having a dig at him or Liverpool but great manager really? What has he won? He's finished 2nd when the top 4 was in disarray. I can't rate him above Rafa although his brand of football is more pleasing. But this team is not a patch on Rafa's team. Typical hyperbole we see with British players also, let's see where he's got Liverpool in 3-4 years as only a couple seasons ago there were more than a few that would have been happy to see him go.
Rodgers has yet to match Rafa, imo. And I wouldn't call Rodgers great either just yet. He's throdding down that path though and I have every reason to think he'll get there. I think he's far more likely to win the league than Rafa ever was. Goals win you leagues more than anything. Rafa never really managed to crack the nut of being stalled to dull draws against teams parking the bus. Not a problem in Europe, where not losing is paramount, so Rafa was in his element there.
84 points gets you into top 4. Nothing to do with health of other clubs - who weren't in disarray other than United.
Agree but think Liverpool benefited from the other teams transitional periods. Time will tell I guess.
Rafa should have won the league as should have Rodgers both failed when it was theirs to win. Rafa did deliver silverware Rodgers has yet too and cups will be bet be as Chelsea and City are miles ahead imho.
I wonder if Rodger's will be the Liverpool manager for years to come or if he'll move on, I think he might stay at Liverpool. Whatever he does, he's done a cracking job so far.
You got 6 off Moyeschester, put your willy away.
cracking soundbites too.
Stuff like saying they handled the run in fine, when obviously they choked.
Saying he wouldn't touch Balotelli in a million years, then buys him a couple of weeks later.
Says we know full well we can't get top players without champions league, just before we get Di Maria and Falcao!
The league was never Rafa's to win. Let's not rewrite history.
If he stays for years it's because he's made us a power again and if he leaves it's because he's done so too. Assuming he does make us contenders on all fronts once more, there aren't many clubs that you'd rather be at in that scenario. Real Madrid are obviously one of them, but I don't see Brendan ever moving there mainly because his style of management doesn't fit with how they do things. Barcelona are really the only club that I can see taking Brendan.
We won 12 of our last 14 games.
He didn't say he wouldn't touch Balotelli in a million years, he said Balotelli wouldn't be a Liverpool player. The way you've said it makes it sound like he didn't rate him.
We'll see how well those top players do for you before making amy judgements on that statement.
He had no choice. Balotelli was always the only logical choice for Liverpool after Suarez was sold and Milan's asking price went down. I said as much on here. They weren't getting Cavani or Falcao.
he said there was no way he be a Liverpool player, yet he suddenly is a Liverpool player.
And he said we'd struggle to attract top players. Yet we've got a guy who was a standout player for Real Madrid, and helped them win the European cup!
Whether he performs magic here or not, that still makes Rodgers completely wrong.
Come on Barney really? It's not the 80s anymore buddy times have moved and Liverpool who were top dogs are looking a bit dusty as a club. They don't have the financial strength to compete in my opinion long term, now a days it's about buying the best players and Liverpool shop in Asda. Where as City and Chelsea are swanning around in Harrods, we are trying this year to compete and that as it stands won't be enough either.
I do miss Sir Alex Ferguson's personally Chosen One. To give him his full Man Utd title.
We used to get 6 off Fergchester as well at times.
Anyway, even with 6 points less Liverpool would've made top 4.
I bloody would as well if I were a Liverpool fan *throws up a little*
Us Utd fans are spoilt rotten though. Over 20 years with the greatest manager ever, knocking you off your perch, winning league title after league title. (remember that feeling?) And then when the great man retires at the top we finally get a rough season, but one which still hilariously ends up with Liverpool blowing their best chance in 25 years because Gerrard slipped on his arse.
Fecking spoilt I tell you.
...or he gets sacked for not doing well enough. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. He's had one mediocre year and one overachieving year.
But choked when it mattered. A draw against Chelsea and a win against Palace and the league would have been as good as yours.
They're top players. Rodgers said we won't attract top players, and we've attracted top players. There's no "see how they do" because we've managed to get two of the best players in the world in their respective positions. I like how you're very confidently predicting that Rodgers will return Liverpool to the top of European football, but can't quite agree that Angel Di Maria and Radamel Falcao are top class players. Liverpool's only (arguably) top class signing has been a dodgy Italian bloke with a propensity for causing havoc wherever he goes.
Saying Rodgers should have won the league is just ridiculous. The only reason we were even in a position to challenge was him. No one would have tipped us even as dark horses otherwise. He worked miracles last season.
Short selective memory there.
Obviously him getting sacked is possible (but unlikely). That wasn't what we were discussing though so your point is fairly irrelevant.
It wouldn't have been 'as good as ours'. It would have been ours.
I haven't predicted that at all. At least read the context of what I said above if you're going to join in a discussion.
Eh? Not really. Suarez wasn't doing it on his own all season.
He's done incredibly well at Liverpool. They were a shower of sh*t when he took over and last season played the best attacking football in the league hands down.
I get it now...the line that reduces anything this Liverpool side does, be it:
This from the fans who declared Januzaj the best teenager in the world after his two-goal demolition of Sunderland and the fans who brought you "we're back" having WON the pre-season World Trophy...not to mention the fans who have declared their team great again following zero games involving their new set of signings!
But don't forget, it's Liverpool fans who "get ahead of themselves". Thank God for such measured caution.
- Sterling's breakthrough...
- Sturridge's goals...
- Henderson's rise in form...
- Winning loads of games...
- Scoring all the goals...
- Rodgers' impressive management...
This from the fans who declared Januzaj the best teenager in the world after his two-goal demolition of Sunderland and the fans who brought you "we're back" having WON the pre-season World Trophy...not to mention the fans who have declared their team great again following zero games involving their new set of signings!
But don't forget, it's Liverpool fans who "get ahead of themselves". Thank God for such measured caution.
"Will Rodgers be at Liverpool for years to come, yes or no?"
You said both were possible. You also said that he'd either stay with Liverpool at the top, or leave with Liverpool at the top.
I added that he could also leave after being naff. This possibility fulfils "no" with slightly more sensible reasoning than Rodgers propelling Liverpool back to the top before going off to manage Barcelona.
You'd have still had to win against Newcastle, hence the qualifier.
My comment makes perfect sense in context.
Rodgers said that United knew that they'd struggle to get top players without CL football, just before we signed two of the world's top players.
Someone pointed that out.
You responded by saying we'd have to wait and see before passing judgment, as if Di Maria and Falcao aren't already top players.
I said that you were talking bollocks.
Attracting top players does not mean signing players that may be good in the future, it means signing players that have already excelled at the top levels of the game, which both Di Maria and Falcao have done.
I mean, yeah, we can take things in context and respond to comments from individuals or we can just collectively lump together everyone's opinions from their respective fanbases until we're left with nothing more than a huge contradictory mess that we can point and laugh at until the cows come home.
Well hasn't that approach sustained certain posters on here?
It might have bolstered their post counts but I don't think it'll have won them many plaudits.
Clinging...describes gasmanc perfectly.
Altiun was asking whether he'd stay or leave us and I answered. I said if he stays it's because he's taken us to the top or if he moves clubs it's because he's done an excellent job. He could get sacked, of course he could, but that wasn't what we were discussing.
Where did I confidently predict we'd return to the top of European football?
If that's your definition of attracting top players, then I suppose Milan have just signed one in Torres, right?
Agree he's done a great job, and progressed the team, squad, and style of play enormously. Let's not say he's a great manager yet though, hasn't won anything, and has the UCL challenge this season as well the league.
He's definitely not a great manager yet. As you say he needs to win things first. Those in the media saying he's our greatest manager since Paisley are talking nonsense (Fagan, Dalglish and Rafa all were better than Brendan has been - so far).
revisionism ftwHoullier > Rafa
Absolutely not.
Won more trophies, wasnt a facht spanish waiter
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