Breel Embolo | Signed for Schalke

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Breel Embolo - Dribbles per game EL: 3.1
Juan Mata - Dribbles per game: 0.8
Anthony Martial - Dribbles per game: 2.7

Interesting.
 
I don't tell you what to believe/trust. Just added some stat to inform you.
It's kinda weird you trust your own eyes more than people who watch him regularly but at the same time you admit that you have seen him only once.

I've seen him a few dozen times and think he's a pretty good dribbler for what it's worth.

Can you please show me where did I say I saw him once?

Thanks for your info by the way. If you have and if you don't mind to share, please give me some clips where he virtually skinned defenders and I promise I'll change my opinion on him this very instant.

I didn't question people who've watched him regularly rather my post was to most who're doing it based on Youtbue compilation videos. We do it all basically to all players and Embolo isn't the first and won't be the last.
 
Don't know much about him, but based on what I've read so far it's certainly a signing that makes sense.

This pretty much settles the "question" on how we will line up(provided we get Zlatan). Rooney playing behind Zlatan was always gonna be too slow but with Martial and Embolo tearing the flanks apart, with overlaps from Valencia and Shaw, speed and space will no longer be an issue centrally.

Now the question becomes: who will we sign for our CM(if anyone)?

--------------- DDG ------------
Valencia - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw
----- Schneiderlin - ?????? ------
--- Embolo - Rooney - Martial ---
----------- Ibrahimovic ---------

Bench:
Romero, Blind, Darmian, Herrera, Memphis, Mata, Rashford

Carrick, Schweinsteiger, CBJ and Mensah could also make the bench, obviously.
 
I'm pretty sure there are some stats that Mata has completed X number of dribbles. Are you going to tell me Mata's good dribbling ability?

Thanks for your info by the way. If you have and if you don't mind to share, please give me some clips where he virtually skinned defenders and I promise I'll change my opinion on him this very instant.
You find us some Mata stats and he can find some cool videos for you. Swapsies!
 
Now the question becomes: who will we sign for our CM(if anyone)?

--------------- DDG ------------
Valencia - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw
----- Schneiderlin - ?????? ------
--- Embolo - Rooney - Martial ---
----------- Ibrahimovic ---------

--------------- DDG ------------
Valencia - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw
----- Schneiderlin - Pogba ------
--- Embolo - ????? - Martial ---
----------- Ibrahimovic ---------

Can't wait. ;)
 
Breel Embolo - Dribbles per game EL: 3.1
Juan Mata - Dribbles per game: 0.8
Anthony Martial - Dribbles per game: 2.7

Interesting.

Depay probably had 5+ in the Dutch league. Wouldn't put much stock in this.
 
How does Schneiderlin get into all these fantasy line-ups? :wenger: He was worse than Fellaini last season and Blind playing the same role the season before.
 
If you have and if you don't mind to share, please give me some clips where he virtually skinned defenders and I promise I'll change my opinion on him this very instant.
Not that it proves anything, but you asked for videos so here we go:



Dribbling isn't his greatest skill but he's fine. He beats defenders mostly by pace but so does Martial.
Martial is a more finished player, Embolo is more of a raw diamond. He has the tools but is not quite there yet. Sometimes his overview isn't there so he makes wrong decisions.
Often, he's not selfish enough when he needed to be, but he's a good link-up player so that shouldn't be a problem with better linemates.
As stated before, he needs to work on his finishing, that's where the comparison with Martial stops.
 
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Not that it proves anything, but you asked for videos so here we go:





Dribbling isn't his greatest skill but he's fine. He beats defenders mostly by pace but so does Martial.
Martial is a more finished player, Embolo is more of a raw diamond. He has the tools but is not quite there yet. Sometimes his overview isn't there so he makes wrong decisions.
Often, he's not selfish enough when he needed to be, but he's a good link-up player so that shouldn't be a problem with better linemates.
As stated before, he needs to work on his finishing, that's where the comparison with Martial stops.


The first one is brown ideye mate.:lol::lol::lol:
 
I'm liking the idea of two quick and powerful inside forwards like Martial and Embolo flanking a forward like Zlatan who doesn't possess much mobility, but has the creativity and ability to drop-off and play those two in behind. A bit false-nineish even though he has the goal-scoring prowess and attributes of proper forward.

Then when Zlatan inevitably starts to become phased out over the coming years we would have the versatility and options amongst Martial, Embolo and Rashford to vie for that main strikers positions.

Exciting times and we could have our forward options nailed down for the foreseeable future.
 
Sounds too good to be true
Does it?
He was reportedly very close to joining Red Bull Leipzig who just got promoted and we are Manchester United, so it really wouldn't be that incredible, would it?;)
 
Doesn't seem anyone except that one not even credible source has anything more on this ?
 
Not that it proves anything, but you asked for videos so here we go:



Dribbling isn't his greatest skill but he's fine. He beats defenders mostly by pace but so does Martial.
Martial is a more finished player, Embolo is more of a raw diamond. He has the tools but is not quite there yet. Sometimes his overview isn't there so he makes wrong decisions.
Often, he's not selfish enough when he needed to be, but he's a good link-up player so that shouldn't be a problem with better linemates.
As stated before, he needs to work on his finishing, that's where the comparison with Martial stops.


It's more nutmegging than dribbling my friend!

Anyway, this debate started when some claimed he's basically the Martial on the right to which I said he's nothing on Martial based on what I've seen. I then pointed out why I think so,

....... Embolo doesn't have (based on what I've seen) Martial's dribbling ability nor does have Martial's finishing ability......

Now you've watched him more than me and see what you've just written here,

.........Dribbling isn't his greatest skill but he's fine........As stated before, he needs to work on his finishing,.......

See you're pointing out exactly the same two things that I did and it's coming from someone who's watched him more than me!

As I said in my first post, I'm not against signing him. I just wanted to make sure he doesn't get hyped up to the extent that when he inevitably fails to deliver he doesn't get dog's abuse from the same people who're hyping him up now based on some Youtube clips. Case in point Depay who was the new CR7 last season is now a pariah who everyone wants to get rid just after his first season!

Not being a good dribbler isn't the end of the world. Bale isn't a good dribbler but he is fast, strong, has a sweet left foot and a good football brain. So there is no reason for Embolo for not to be successful just because he isn't a Martial-esque dribbler.

I find his game more comparable to Drogba as both use power and pace more than anything else. But obviously at the moment he isn't anywhere near Drogba's level.

Let's hope if we do sign him he turns out to be a success here because at the end of the day that's what we all United fans want to see.
 
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How does Schneiderlin get into all these fantasy line-ups? :wenger: He was worse than Fellaini last season and Blind playing the same role the season before.

So true, even at SOuthampton in his big season he was nothing more than a functioning midfielder doing all the basics competently. Id keep him over other central midfielders for this season but no way would he be in the first eleven
 
Fully agree with you in terms of expectations for the young boy.

To be more clear on his dribbling, I think it's above average and quite good for a player his age, unlike the finishing which I would call one of his weaknesses.

Remembering one year ago, Martial was hardly known as a world beater around here and his videos were more about flashes of brillance than dozend of beautiful goals/assists. I think the comparisons are not that far off.
Martial obviously took huge steps this year.
 
Doesn't seem anyone except that one not even credible source has anything more on this ?
Aye, you'd imagine if there was something in it someone somewhere would be on it. Flys on shit and all that....
 
If we end up getting him, this would probably be Rooney's last year at United
 
If we end up getting him, this would probably be Rooney's last year at United

Rooney, if he's playing, won't be playing upfront. This won't make any difference. Rodney's long term future here looks likely to be dependant on whether he can adjust to playing deeper.
 
Breel Embolo - Dribbles per game EL: 3.1
Juan Mata - Dribbles per game: 0.8
Anthony Martial - Dribbles per game: 2.7

Interesting.

Depay probably had 5+ in the Dutch league. Wouldn't put much stock in this.
Memphis had 7.7 dribbles in the Europa League per 90 to Embolo's 3.6. Memphis also only had 2.7 unsuccessful dribbles per 90 to Embolo's 3.3. Memphis is roundly criticized on here for his dribbling.
 
Memphis had 7.7 dribbles in the Europa League per 90 to Embolo's 3.6. Memphis also only had 2.7 unsuccessful dribbles per 90 to Embolo's 3.3. Memphis is roundly criticized on here for his dribbling.

You can only play whose in front of you.
 
Why not play Rashford part time on the right of an attacking 3 for one season? Get him game time while learning the game and build on his frame. Then he can go upfront when Zlatan (if he does come) moves on.

Mkhitaryan in the middle would be nice though.
 
Memphis had 7.7 dribbles in the Europa League per 90 to Embolo's 3.6. Memphis also only had 2.7 unsuccessful dribbles per 90 to Embolo's 3.3. Memphis is roundly criticized on here for his dribbling.
Misleading stats- you have missed out is the number of games they've all played. Martial and Embolo have for sure played more in the EL than Memphis, so they've had a variety of defenders to play against that could be defensively good or bad. Whereas Memphis has played only a few games, one of which was against some random Danish team no one had even heard of with one of the worst Right Backs I have ever seen play, so obviously his stats are skewed because of that one game he played very well in against incredibly poor opposition.
 
Misleading stats- you have missed out is the number of games they've all played. Martial and Embolo have for sure played more in the EL than Memphis, so they've had a variety of defenders to play against that could be defensively good or bad. Whereas Memphis has played only a few games, one of which was against some random Danish team no one had even heard of with one of the worst Right Backs I have ever seen play, so obviously his stats are skewed because of that one game he played very well in against incredibly poor opposition.
Well that was kind of the point, someone who is criticized on here for his dribbling was getting over twice as many dribbles so the stats didn't mean much.

Why would you think Martial has surely played more than Memphis, they are both on the same team and have had the same opponents (well Martial played Liverpool twice while Memphis only once). They both played 3 matches for 270 minutes. That also doesn't really work in Embolo's favour as he played the group stage which is even bigger cannon fodder than that 'random Danish team' who managed to advance through the groups. Nonetheless, yes the stats don't mean much as they are over such a short period of play and against varying opposition.
 
Even YouTube videos can't make him look very good. Again, I hope the scouting team have seen something special, otherwise we're adding very average squad players. to a squad full of average squad players.

Boh Bailly and Embolo seem to be very underwhelming signings.
 
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