Breel Embolo | Signed for Schalke

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I always taught he was a striker. Did not realize he played out wide. I taught we would go for someone more experienced in that right position because we already have Lingard and Januzaj there. Nevertheless, difficult to say no to footballer that has tons of potential.
 
Looking forward to seeing him in action against the Albanians tomorrow and possibly a quick medical and confirmation next week.
 
cully84 said:
Looking forward to seeing him in action against the Albanians tomorrow and possibly a quick medical and confirmation next week.
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I'm not so sure it's as close to being done as some think

The story has yet to be reported by any of the more reliable pack. Right now, it's just as likely it could be his agent using United's name to get his client a better deal at his club or another club
 
Ijazz17 said:
Mahrez is 25, Vardy even older. They thrived at Leicester not because of the education they received there, but because of the system which best suited their style of play. I made that point because players who were considered not good enough for United have done well elsewhere, so we must have done something right. They are beyond the point of discussion since they are no longer in that "Developmental Phase" so to speak. I agree being at Man Utd doesn't come with a guarantee of becoming a great player, but it is the ultimate test for a player who aspires to be one. Some of the World's best players in the world right now had a majority of their development at a club with a reputation for developing talent. Barcelona, United, Juventus etc. There's nothing of note to suggest that Leipzig are such a team. You said it yourself, you can have all the game time in the world and still be considered a flop like how Memphis is seen as. Who's to say the same can't happen to Embolo at Leipzig ?

It's not as simple as saying More Game Time --> better player. There's a lot more to it than that.
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I beg to differ. Mahrez was 23 when he joined Leicester and an unknown and yes he was still developing. At 25 you can see the end product and that a tougher league and regular game time has brought the best out of him. Memphis has had 13 starts. That's not a lot of game time. Memphis proves that moving to a big club doesn't necessarily expedite ones development.

I'm not arguing that more game time means better development. I'm arguing that being at a big club and warming the bench doesn't lead to player development. All the world class players you're referring to must have got game time at their respective clubs and that's how they got better, progressively. I find Goetze vs Busquets to be a good example here. Ones development has stalled and the others has gone from strength to strength because of regular game time. Only Training with elite players is not enough.

Which brings me to my main assertion that Mourinho and United need to produce instant results and to do that they need dependable players that are proven at the highest level. Embolo is definitely not that player. like I mentioned, no one would take Embolo over Mahrez or Bale at the RW position. So if we were to sign a player of such quality for the RW position and considering that Mourinho rarely rotates his best players, would it make sense for Embolo to be at United considering that he will not start week in and week out? I don't think so.

That being said, I get your point as well. It's possible that he might still develop into a good player. But I firmly believe that it can't happen without getting regular chances in real game situations. Maybe you're right, Liepzig might not be the best move for him either, but at this point I don't think United is either.
 
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Vanya said:
I beg to differ. Mahrez was 23 when he joined Leicester and an unknown and yes he was still developing. At 25 you can see the end product and that a tougher league and regular game time has brought the best out of him. Memphis has had 13 starts. That's not a lot of game time. Memphis proves that moving to a big club doesn't necessarily expedite ones development.

I'm not arguing that more game time means better development. I'm arguing that being at a big club and warming the bench doesn't lead to player development. All the world class players you're referring to must have got game time at their respective clubs and that's how they good better, progressively. I find Goetze vs Busquets to be a good example here. Ones development has stalled and the others has gone from strength to strength because of regular game time. Only Training with elite players is not enough.

Which brings me to my main assertion that Mourinho and United need to produce instant results and to do that they need dependable players that are proven at the highest level. Embolo is definitely not that player. like I mentioned, no one would take Embolo over Mahrez or Bale at the RW position. So if we were to sign a player of such quality for the RW position and considering that Mourinho rarely rotates his best players, would it make sense for Embolo to be at United considering that he will not start week in and week out? I don't think so.

That being said, I get your point as well. It's possible that he might still develop into a good player. But I firmly believe that it can't happen without getting regular chances in real game situations. Maybe you're right, Liepzig might not be the best move for him either, but at this point I don't think United is either.
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I agree with you, the situation at United is now particular because C1 football, and potentially the title, is a need that became critical. Would United have finished 4th, it might have been different. The "instant" results requirement is not helpful for many young players who need time to develop. Well maybe Mourinho thinks Embola is a sort of the next gen Drogba... a player who was not necessarily proven but who might become the angular stone in the new team, who knows.
 
dwd said:
When he was supposedly going to Leipzig everyone was saying it was good for his career and not too many seemed bothered. Now he's linked to us again everyone is going wild about. Does not compute.
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I know. apparently him, Martial and Rashford is the new MSN. If we were a big side, he and Rashford would be the back up attackers playing in Europa matches, Carling cup and vs weak prem sides. I do like us stocking up on young talent however I would like someone who can make a Martial/Mahrez impact straight away. We have been noncompetitive for long enough. He may prove me wrong so feel free to bump this thread when he does a Martial.
 
Embollism, Rash, Martial Syndrome. Sick attacking lineup.
 
I was up to my **** all day in work, missed all the news.

Can someone catch me up please? I read the 20 mins article yesterday so if there was anything new?
 
Seems like a promising move.

Remember though, for every Martial there are several Depays.
 
murphs_law said:
I was up to my **** all day in work, missed all the news.

Can someone catch me up please? I read the 20 mins article yesterday so if there was anything new?
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There was a second article from a Leipzig newspaper saying that Leipzig were not going to sign him and he's going to sign for us or something like that.
 
Reynoldo said:
There was a second article from a Leipzig newspaper saying that Leipzig were not going to sign him and he's going to sign for us or something like that.
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It was a rather funny Article too as the bitter tone it was written in was great :lol:
 
Suddenly I'm disappointed that I'm missing the Albania-Switzerland game tomorrow now. Would have been good to watch him
 
Amadaeus said:
I always taught he was a striker. Did not realize he played out wide. I taught we would go for someone more experienced in that right position because we already have Lingard and Januzaj there. Nevertheless, difficult to say no to footballer that has tons of potential.
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Videos I watched I just taught I taw a pussy cat. All I can conclude from this thread is virtually nobody has seen him play but can make an expert analysis on him from youtube clips. Doing the same thing myself I dont get how people are saying he looks clumsy and just kick and rush, I must be watching a different video.

He looks big, strong, powerfully quick and brave as well. The thing most impressive from the video I watched is he isnt a flashy, in fact his final ball and decision making in the clips at least looks very good for such a young player. As a couple of people have said, if he does have the potential he has been labelled with for quite a few months, £15-17m is a very good price in todays market. I think some of these signings like Emre Mor and Dembele to Dortmund have been great deals, looks like we may have possibly jumped in ahead of a German club and are about to do a great deal ourselves. I would personally rather we did a couple of signings like this and Lozano for £30-40m giving us a couple of raw talents than shelling out some of the fees being bandied about for supposedly great players like Griezmann who are very good but in my opinion, not great. I prefer the old mantra of us not buying great players but making them.......saying that I wouldnt mind Pogba and Ibrahimovic so yes my whole post is hypocritical :)
 
17 Van der Gouw said:
You'll be begging for Memphis after a few games of Embolo.

Great for Basel, but he'll be shite for us.
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You also "really thought Nick Powell was going to make it", so I will feel free to ignore your opinion on young players and carry on not writing off a kid before he even has a debut with United.
 
If the reported 20M Euros is true (£15M), would be cracking business if we manage to sign Mkhitaryan as well.

Would also put us at ease when Rooney inevitably dips form or if Embolo isn't ready.

Zlatan
Martial-Mkhitaryan-Embolo

-Rashford
Memphis-Rooney-Januzaj​
 
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