Television Breaking Bad

It would be stranger to refuse to acknowledge that these people exist, especially in the context of the actress who gets the hate writing an article discussing one of the groups of people. The problem is when people assume that if you don't like Skyler then you must be one of those people.

If people like Skyler, that's fine. To me, the cover of 'being essential to the plot' isn't relevant- her controlling personality is (like CC said, refusing to even give Walt the autonomy of his own fecking body in the first season), her vindictive nature is (going off for hours without saying, entirely because Walt does it- not saying when Walt does it it is fine but doing it in return shows what she is like as a person, fecking Ted etc)- and scenes like when she is just screaming 'shut up' over and over at Marie when she did almost nothing, just make me not give her the benefit of the doubt. She might be a 'worthy character' but that's not the same as a likeable one.

Edit: also just to clarify, just because someone doesn't like Skyler doesn't mean they are 'team Walt', it's shades of grey- despite how some people act.
 
Drainy said:
It would be stranger to refuse to acknowledge that these people exist, especially in the context of the actress who gets the hate writing an article discussing one of the groups of people. The problem is when people assume that if you don't like Skyler then you must be one of those people.

If people like Skyler, that's fine. To me, the cover of 'being essential to the plot' isn't relevant- her controlling personality is (like CC said, refusing to even give Walt the autonomy of his own fecking body in the first season), her vindictive nature is (going off for hours without saying, entirely because Walt does it- not saying when Walt does it it is fine but doing it in return shows what she is like as a person, fecking Ted etc)- and scenes like when she is just screaming 'shut up' over and over at Marie when she did almost nothing, just make me not give her the benefit of the doubt. She might be a 'worthy character' but that's not the same as a likeable one.

Edit: also just to clarify, just because someone doesn't like Skyler doesn't mean they are 'team Walt', it's shades of grey- despite how some people act.
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She is pregnant ffs. Walt starts coming home at 2 in the morning and when he comes back he sleeps in the bathroom and then admits to buying pot from Jessie. I would say 'sensible' would be a better word to describe what Skyler did rather than controlling. the screaming shut up was a ploy to get her children out of her house. Let's not even talk about the scene where Walt almost rapes her...
 
Drainy said:
It would be stranger to refuse to acknowledge that these people exist, especially in the context of the actress who gets the hate writing an article discussing one of the groups of people. The problem is when people assume that if you don't like Skyler then you must be one of those people.

If people like Skyler, that's fine. To me, the cover of 'being essential to the plot' isn't relevant- her controlling personality is (like CC said, refusing to even give Walt the autonomy of his own fecking body in the first season), her vindictive nature is (going off for hours without saying, entirely because Walt does it- not saying when Walt does it it is fine but doing it in return shows what she is like as a person, fecking Ted etc)- and scenes like when she is just screaming 'shut up' over and over at Marie when she did almost nothing, just make me not give her the benefit of the doubt. She might be a 'worthy character' but that's not the same as a likeable one.

Edit: also just to clarify, just because someone doesn't like Skyler doesn't mean they are 'team Walt', it's shades of grey- despite how some people act.
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I think you take this all a bit too seriously.

She's a druglord's wife who sits at home all day either pregnant or with a screaming baby worrying what her mental husband is going to bring home with him tonight. She's entitled to go a bit mental every now and then, I'd say. Though I've never quite been in any of those scenarios so who knows. Maybe I'd just sit back and admire the destruction.
 
To a normal person, smoking pot isn't a fecking big deal- even if her brother in law is a DEA agent. Especially given that he's just turned 50 and is a chronic (lol) underachiever, most people would just say 'midlife crisis' and give them space, but Skyler took exception to him standing up to her saying 'get off my ass'. So yeah, sensible..

She was out of control when she was screaming shut up, so I'd say it was an outburst (ok she was under a lot of stress, but taking it out on her sister wasn't cool), but even in your interpretation she is being manipulative of her sister in the extreme.

The 'rape' scene was a long time after he reveals he has cancer and she clearly puts down to that and him being scared, as would most people. Not an excuse for him obviously.

On his cancer, it wasn't cool of her to pretty much force him to tell everyone. From my experience of people with cancer, revealing it is one of those things that they need to be ready for and wait until the right moment. Taking that way from him was pretty terrible too, even if she was emotional.
 
I like Skyler, especially when they showed her to smarter than originally appeared with the money laundering, how she got the car wash from Bogdan, pretending to be dumb at Ted's audit, etc...
 
On the Skylar thing: I hated her for a while, but mostly because her story arc was boring as shit for the first 2 or 3 seasons and every time she was on screen the show started to drag. When Ted came along though, she became a lot more interesting and her interactions with Walt improved as a result.
 
Mockney said:
There aren't really "Skyler supporters" Just people who don't hate a fictional character you're not supposed to hate. Who's been largely vindicated in show.

And I think it's more that "haters" tend to hand wave drug dealing & murdering being excusable but sleeping with someone else or being suspicious isn't. Because, you know, Walt's cool. He says cool things. He's the lead. Men. I like colours.

I think you were supposed to be rooting against her for the first two seasons, but by now, she should at the very least be understandable.
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She fecked a collegue while her dying husband was trying to provide for a great life for her and their kids when he wouldn't be around anymore.

Why can't some people understand that she isn't liked by the majority only for this reason. You should stick by your man as long as his intentions are good, no matter what.

Edit - And to add insult to injury, she gave him a lot of the money Walt made for them.
 
I honestly don't like nor root for Walter since he became a true merciless druglord, that humanity part about him was made him likable for him. It still doesn't mean I'm more on Skyler's side, I've never changed my opinion regarding her once so far. She's been annoying through and through.
 
Moralising about the infidelity of one television character to another television character who is a lying, petty, arrogant, murdering drug dealer is a bit, well, simple. If you enjoy Breaking Bad that's great, but viewing it as the awesome adventures of Poor Old Walt is very one dimensional, considering that complex characterisation is one of the show's biggest strengths. If you still think Poor Old Walt only slings meth to selflessly provide for his family past a certain point you're not getting as much out of the show as you could.
 
Wonder Pigeon said:
Moralising about the infidelity of one television character to another television character who is a lying, petty, arrogant, murdering drug dealer is a bit, well, simple. If you enjoy Breaking Bad that's great, but viewing it as the awesome adventures of Poor Old Walt is very one dimensional, considering that complex characterisation is one of the show's biggest strengths. If you still think Poor Old Walt only slings meth to selflessly provide for his family past a certain point you're not getting as much out of the show as you could.
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He's been past that point a long time ago now and that's the transition for the caring husband/father to the ruthless criminal that made me not like him. The show is still fantastic though.
 
I bet he only watches Dexter to see Dex go around killing criminals and avoid getting caught. He could get so much more from the show if he understood the intricacies behind Quinn's character or Batista's motivation.
 
Muffled Funk said:
Vato loves Mrs. Brown's boys.

So you can all ignore his opinion on this.
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[WP]Its actually a dark and gritty look into a world were one woman tries to use humor to mask her never ending pain at the death of her husband and inadequacy to help her children with their real life problems.

She slowly loses her grip on reality to the point she thinks her life is a tv show and her only purpose is to entertain the non-existent audience. [/WP]
 
Vato1979 said:
She fecked a collegue while her dying husband was trying to provide for a great life for her and their kids when he wouldn't be around anymore.

Why can't some people understand that she isn't liked by the majority only for this reason. You should stick by your man as long as his intentions are good, no matter what.

Edit - And to add insult to injury, she gave him a lot of the money Walt made for them.
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That's absurd. By the time she fecked another man his intentions were no longer selfless or pure, he was feeding his ego by becoming a druglord.
 
Brwned said:
That's absurd. By the time she fecked another man his intentions were no longer selfless or pure, he was feeding his ego by becoming a druglord.
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I have trouble remembering the chronological order of events as it's been a while since I've watched it. But even if what you say is correct, it doesn't excuse cheating IMO.
 
Wonder Pigeon said:
Moralising about the infidelity of one television character to another television character who is a lying, petty, arrogant, murdering drug dealer is a bit, well, simple. If you enjoy Breaking Bad that's great, but viewing it as the awesome adventures of Poor Old Walt is very one dimensional, considering that complex characterisation is one of the show's biggest strengths. If you still think Poor Old Walt only slings meth to selflessly provide for his family past a certain point you're not getting as much out of the show as you could.
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:lol:
 
Vato1979 said:
[WP]Its actually a dark and gritty look into a world were one woman tries to use humor to mask her never ending pain at the death of her husband and inadequacy to help her children with their real life problems.

She slowly loses her grip on reality to the point she thinks her life is a tv show and her only purpose is to entertain the non-existent audience. [/WP]
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:lol:
 
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