Television Breaking Bad

Does sort of look like well disguised feminist nonsense. You look at a character like Snoop in The Wire and, whilst she's no doubt a cracking character and actress, there is very little significant character or storyline development going on there. She's basically fecked in the head from start to finish and that's that. Beadie and Kima aren't exactly Carmela Soprano either, and none of them are as integral to the plot as Skyler is in Breaking Bad. Skyler and the family in fact are the very basis of Walt's behaviour from the offset, and it's the behaviour of Skyler that massively complicates and exacerbates Walt's situation. It makes absolutely no sense to say that other female characters in other shows are integral and that she isn't - she's far more than 'a nag and a bore', and has enough depth and story by herself to be classed as an important character.

It is true that Skyler is really the only female character that remains a significant influence throughout, but to what extent is that even a black mark against the show anyway? Why should this have any bearing on a show's quality? It's not like the show is blatantly misogynistic - it's just that the best characters in the show are males. That's it. I see no logical reason why a show should be deemed inferior to another on the basis that it doesn't equally distribute the importance of male and female roles. It doesn't make any sense. More a criticism that you look for I imagine than one that stands out.

I don't necessarily think The Sopranos comparison stands up well as a criticism to the 'big meth dealer/gangsters are likely to be men' response either. For one thing, that show is an absolute one-off in the sense of character depth and development, but another thing is the pronounced emphasis on women/family/'gumars' in that show by default in order to properly explore the traditions of that culture. That entire program revolves around the exploration of each character and their place amidst mob culture, though the show itself allows for a far greater expression on behalf of the actors and actresses regardless of that. Someone like Meadow Soprano for example really isn't that special a character, but each character is explored in such depth as a result of the style and goals of the show that it's unavoidable that you will end up with a great deal of emphasis on characters of both genders. The main female character for whom the mob tradition point does not apply to - Dr Melfi - is in my opinion one of the weaker characters in the show at times, but is at her best when she is giving depth to Tony Soprano. That's the most important part of her character...giving depth to the male lead.

There is no equivalent scenario to this in Breaking Bad, and the emphasis in the show is clearly more on the development of the plot and Walt/Jesse than it is on educating the viewer about a particular culture. As for The Wire, I think the more sophisticated and refined acting style of that show in comparison to Breaking Bad makes it seem like the characters are more significant than they actually are. The characters are excellent, but the sheer amount of them in that show means it's more a more a case of how they work in conjunction to paint the setting of Baltimore than it is them having a great individual influence on the plot. Someone like Beadie for example is almost irrelevant in terms of what the show is mainly trying to explore; she has nothing like the impact that Skyler does in Breaking Bad, and is actually most significant perhaps for her part in the development of one of the male lead roles.
 
I have to say, I'm with MikeUpNorth and Mockney on this one (obviously the lads are fans of the show too, just like I am). Breaking Bad is good, sometimes very, very good, among the best shows I've seen in recent years, but it does have its obvious flaws too. That's the part that grates with me, though. Obsessed fanbois - all too apparent in this very thread as well - cannot see a bad word said about it and try to defend it at every opportunity. If you dare suggest a plot hole, something being incredibly implausible (hell, there's been enough of those in BB!) or a character being, well, shit, you get it from all angles. We even have people here criticising their friends because they don't have the patience/intelligence to stick with the show! It's basically nonsense. (By the way, I had a heated discussion with That's Hernandez in the Homeland thread a while ago for the very same reasons, but I digress.)

Just to repeat, I love the show. I've watched it twice. I'm as excited for the new episodes as the next person. However, there are clear plot holes and inexcusable instances of writers' indulgence that take a few marks off the show, and certainly enough to cease the "greatest of all time" talk. Just a few instances off the top of my head that I take issue with:

  • The twins: They were given such an enormous build-up from early on in Series 2, appearing in loads of scenes that were apparently critical to the plot. Despite almost executing Hank in a public shoot-out (in which a civilian was also killed), they were never mentioned again. Their motives, the men they may have received orders from, the phone call Hank received as a warning immediately prior to the attack, all conveniently never mentioned again. Ridiculous.
  • The pink teddy intro for the duration of Series 2: The writers built it up to appear that a major event had occurred in the White household that ended in fatalities. It was annoying as the series progressed, but even more annoying in hindsight once we knew the real reason for it. Pretentious and indulgent.
  • The airplane disaster: Linked to the above point. For such a huge local story, it was brushed over fairly rapidly. Apart from a few token Saul Goodman television adverts appealing for on-the-ground "victims" of the disaster to come forward, it was also conveniently forgotten very readily.
  • Jane's dad: Again, linked to the above. One of the show's high-points for me, but sadly he was under-used. His story was critical to one of the most explosive (excuse the pun) storylines in the entire series, yet again, he's allowed to slip off the radar again without a mere mention. Maybe I'm used to watching shows with lots of diverse characters being used brilliantly, and BB does have a small core cast, but the ease of which they eliminate apparently central characters without mentioning them again is quite annoying.
  • Skyler and Jesse: These two characters, ones central to the theme of the series, do not sufficiently engage and convince the viewer of their complete antithesis to Walt's character progression and outlook on the situation. Jesse's arc is mundane when he's in his self-loathing state, and Skyler is among the most-hated lead characters ever to grace television. I think the show would achieve its goal far better if those two were equally convincing in their roles as Walt is in his (For what it's worth, I think Aaron Paul is a terrific actor and has had some memorable moments, but his "moping" scenes are uninspiring and don't do him nor his character justice.)
  • Hank's conclusion that Walt is Heisenberg: Too rushed. It's even more annoying that Walt realised Hank knew almost as fast. For something that was skirted around for five series for a variety of reasons, for the bombshell to come in the space of a day or two - at most - is cheating a little I feel. Walt going from "geek brother-in-law" to "mass-murdering sociopathic druglord" in Hank's mind in a matter of hours is very far-fetched. It might have been better served if Hank came to this conclusion gradually from the evidence/clues available to him. Not to mention the fact that Walt left the one thing actually tying him to the Fring organisation (the book) lying around the house is just bizarre. For a man who justified the killing of a child to "clean up loose ends", it is scarcely believable. Almost as believable as Hank using Walt's en-suite shitter in the first place. Really?
Again, I love the show and cannot wait to see how it concludes, but it does have its negatives too. I only watched the new episode last night (hence me not contributing to the thread for a while) but I read this morning the 10 pages or so I'd missed, and a common theme was emerging regarding the reaction to criticisms of the show. It's apparent the show isn't perfect, no show ever is.

As an aside, I think Dean Norris as Hank is doing a great job meeting Cranston's performances as Walt. Cranston was far and away the best performer on the show but Norris is coming into his own now too, which is great for the show. It's set up for a fantastic finale between these two.

Let the fanboism commence! LOL!
 
paceme said:
Tbh it's occasional daftness is what makes it special for me, the likes of the wire are so far up their own arses that I can't stomach it, where as breaking bad will occasionally just go into silly action movie mode.
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So if a show doesn't go into silly action movie mode then it's up it's own arse? Nonsense. And Breaking Bad's action scenes aren't really silly anyway. They're generally very realistic and well done.
 
paceme said:
Tbh it's occasional daftness is what makes it special for me, the likes of the wire are so far up their own arses that I can't stomach it, where as breaking bad will occasionally just go into silly action movie mode.
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Unlike you to enjoy such an obvious misogynistic television show as Breaking Bad, paceme, being the feminist that you are...

I jokes!
 
The twins: They were given such an enormous build-up from early on in Series 2, appearing in loads of scenes that were apparently critical to the plot. Despite almost executing Hank in a public shoot-out (in which a civilian was also killed), they were never mentioned again. Their motives, the men they may have received orders from, the phone call Hank received as a warning immediately prior to the attack, all conveniently never mentioned again. Ridiculous.
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What on earth are you talking about here? Their motive was to kill Walt. They had got the go ahead to kill Walt from the cartel (or some Mexican Organization in any case). The phone call Hank received was from Gus. Everything was mentioned and the reasons behind the actions were explained.

  • The pink teddy intro for the duration of Series 2: The writers built it up to appear that a major event had occurred in the White household that ended in fatalities. It was annoying as the series progressed, but even more annoying in hindsight once we knew the real reason for it. Pretentious and indulgent.
  • The airplane disaster: Linked to the above point. For such a huge local story, it was brushed over fairly rapidly. Apart from a few token Saul Goodman television adverts appealing for on-the-ground "victims" of the disaster to come forward, it was also conveniently forgotten very readily
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I am not sure why you found it annoying. And the story wasn't brushed over. It was a huge deal locally and there was that speech from Walt in the school as well as the crash playing an indirect part in him being arrested later on. I've always thought the main aim was to drive home the implications of Walt's actions have on others and how Walt no longer seemed to care.

As for Skyler what do you expect her do? Silently accept the fact her husband is a drug manufacturing, murdering psychopath and carry on her with her life as if nothing's happened? Her character is shown to be very strong and it amazes me when people can sympathize with Walt's character but not Skyler. It's fecking ridiculous.
 
Cheesy said:
So if a show doesn't go into silly action movie mode then it's up it's own arse? Nonsense. And Breaking Bad's action scenes aren't really silly anyway. They're generally very realistic and well done.
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I didn't mean that, I meant that breaking bad has a fun side to it which is not present in some other shows. Two muderous drug lord twins who sort of have matching clothes is like something straight out of a ott action film.
 
I agree with the criticisms of the airplane crash and everything that went with it. I think its probably been in an idea in one of the writers heads for years, theyve spent hours mulling it over and they thought it would be great and would tie in well to the story but it really didn't. The massive build up of seeing forensic teams and bodybags on walt's drive way ect. didn't help.

People need to remember the difference between objective and subjective on here, its okay for one person to see something as perfect and the other person to believe the complete opposite.
 
There is definitely something to the opinion that Hank's conclusion wasn't presented very well. A few more flashbacks (the half a million in cash moment, the crash, the bit at the dinner table, etc...) as well as a more serious investigative process would've gone a long way towards making his intuition more believable. That up-tempo music whilst Hank was investigating was not fitting at all.
 
paceme said:
I didn't mean that, I meant that breaking bad has a fun side to it which is not present in some other shows. Two muderous drug lord twins who sort of have matching clothes is like something straight out of a ott action film.
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It's the Pulp Fiction of TV shows.
 
akash02 said:
What on earth are you talking about here? Their motive was to kill Walt. They had got the go ahead to kill Walt from the cartel (or some Mexican Organization in any case). The phone call Hank received was from Gus. Everything was mentioned and the reasons behind the actions were explained.
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I know exactly what their motive was. I'm sure the DEA know exactly what their motive was. However, why wasn't it investigated? A public shoot-out which ends up with three dead and a DEA agent almost paralysed, and it's almost never mentioned again. If they felt that the hit was to cover Hank's investigation into his 'Heisenberg'/cartel investigation, why wasn't there more made of the subsequent investigation? The two dead twins were never mentioned again, nor any speculation from the DEA as to who they were representing. Hank received a warning phone call from an unknown source (who were know was Gus), why was this never explored further?

akash02 said:
I am not sure why you found it annoying. And the story wasn't brushed over. It was a huge deal locally and there was that speech from Walt in the school as well as the crash playing an indirect part in him being arrested later on. I've always thought the main aim was to drive home the implications of Walt's actions have on others and how Walt no longer seemed to care.
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The crash was the finale to S2 yet it was rarely mentioned in S3 apart from one or two Saul Goodman adverts on television. We didn't see Jane's dad again, despite him being painted as the protagonist for the disaster. Yes there was that school auditorium scene, but that was only two minutes dedicated to a huge event that Walt's actions were supposed to have indirectly caused. The plane crash theme was central throughout the entire run of S2 with that pretentious 'pink teddy' intro but it was conveniently forgotten about thereafter.

BB consistently bathe in these huge, dramatic scenes/finales, but they never follow up on them. Or worse still, as eric le roi referred to earlier, they use deux ex machina apparently at will. It's just ridiculous at times.

akash02 said:
As for Skyler what do you expect her do? Silently accept the fact her husband is a drug manufacturing, murdering psychopath and carry on her with her life as if nothing's happened? Her character is shown to be very strong and it amazes me when people can sympathize with Walt's character but not Skyler. It's fecking ridiculous.
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I'm not expecting her to do anything. All I said was that I don't like her character. I'm not sure if that stems from the actress that plays her or not, but I simply cannot warm to her. In terms of her character, I find her hypocrisy nauseating considering the reprehensible behaviour she partook in. She continually makes everything about her (her breakdown at dinner which led to Walt revealing to Hank, Marie and Walter Jr. that he had cancer being one case in point) and it's just monotonous. Every scene she's in she develops a dour persona and rarely smiles. All this "if you prefer Walt to Skyler you're missing the point of the show" talk is akin to the fanboism you experience whenever someone criticises the show. It's complete and utter shite.
 
Drainy said:
also, Jane's dad does get mentioned later on. He kills himself- another one of 'Walt's victims'.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he "only" hospitalised due to a 'self-inflicted' gunshot wound? I don't think he actually died, but I'm open to correction on that.

Also, that was a radio news report than Walt heard in the car one day. One five-second segment is sufficient to wrap up a central character to a central story of the entire series? Yet we get fifty-five fecking minutes dedicated to the chase of a fly in a basement? Really?
 
nahealai said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he "only" hospitalised due to a 'self-inflicted' gunshot wound? I don't think he actually died, but I'm open to correction on that.

Also, that was a radio news report than Walt heard in the car one day. One five-second segment is sufficient to wrap up a central character to a central story of the entire series? Yet we get fifty-five fecking minutes dedicated to the chase of a fly in a basement? Really?
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Fair enough, it might be my mistake. I wouldn't say he was an important enough character to mean that he needs a proper wrap up, but I get your criticism of Fly- I didn't really care for that episode apart from the climax where Walt wants to tell Jesse about Jane, but can't do it.
 
The Wire is evidently (I say evidently to hammer my point, of course it's just personal opinion) a superior show to Breaking Bad. But BB, a bit like The Shield, has an enjoyment and satisfaction factor that sets it apart and earns it the support it gets. What I mean is that the feeling of elation you have when watching the final three episodes of season 4 for example is incredible, when The Wire holds up better and is great because of its overall ambition, its acting and writing, and the social portrait of a city it paints. The Wire is ultimately more rewarding I'd say, but I don't think it's bad to love a show that is more aimed towards pure entertainment, it's a different ambition and when it's done right (like it is in Breaking Bad), it should be saluted. But plot holes are a necessary evil I'd say, as long as they're not absolutely ridiculous and don't destroy all suspension of disbelief (which I believe isn't the case in BB, the plot holes are fairly minor) I don't think there should be too much discussion about them, it's not dramatic. Also, what makes BB so good is its acting which is exceptional for a show more aimed towards entertainment (at least the last few seasons), some of the writing and some very interesting themes that run throughout the show and that will be discussed more and more once the show is over and people look further than just the entertainment value of it.
 
nahealai said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he "only" hospitalised due to a 'self-inflicted' gunshot wound? I don't think he actually died, but I'm open to correction on that.

Also, that was a radio news report than Walt heard in the car one day. One five-second segment is sufficient to wrap up a central character to a central story of the entire series? Yet we get fifty-five fecking minutes dedicated to the chase of a fly in a basement? Really?
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It's a bit silly to say the episode was dedicated to the chase of a fly, but I'm sure you're well aware of the importance of that episode anyway.
 
Some of the so called "plot holes" aren't even plot holes. The Twins died, what's the point going on about them for example? Also, the series isn't even over and there is obviously some major shit going down.
 
The airplane crash was by far the silliest and most annoying thing the show has had. Nothing else has really bothered me. There are plotholes now and then but compared to the drivel we're subjected to in Dexter, it's nothing.
 
nahealai said:
I know exactly what their motive was. I'm sure the DEA know exactly what their motive was. However, why wasn't it investigated? A public shoot-out which ends up with three dead and a DEA agent almost paralysed, and it's almost never mentioned again. If they felt that the hit was to cover Hank's investigation into his 'Heisenberg'/cartel investigation, why wasn't there more made of the subsequent investigation? The two dead twins were never mentioned again, nor any speculation from the DEA as to who they were representing. Hank received a warning phone call from an unknown source (who were know was Gus), why was this never explored further?
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The twins were dead and the only thing they knew was that they were from the Cartel and were out to kill Hank. And the authorities did react if you remember. They raided a house or something in Mexico and killed down everyone of the occupants as a direct consequence of the attack on Hank. All this is mentioned in that conversation between Walt and Gus. Hank did tell Gomez to explore the phone call and we have to assume he did and found nothing.

The crash was the finale to S2 yet it was rarely mentioned in S3 apart from one or two Saul Goodman adverts on television. We didn't see Jane's dad again, despite him being painted as the protagonist for the disaster. Yes there was that school auditorium scene, but that was only two minutes dedicated to a huge event that Walt's actions were supposed to have indirectly caused. The plane crash theme was central throughout the entire run of S2 with that pretentious 'pink teddy' intro but it was conveniently forgotten about thereafter.
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The plane crash wasn't the central theme of the whole season so I pretty much disagree with everything you say. I did not find it at all unsatisfying. It was also a means to compare Jessie and Walt's reaction. Jessie shows conscience, Walt didn't seem to care.

I'm not expecting her to do anything. All I said was that I don't like her character. I'm not sure if that stems from the actress that plays her or not, but I simply cannot warm to her. In terms of her character, I find her hypocrisy nauseating considering the reprehensible behaviour she partook in. She continually makes everything about her (her breakdown at dinner which led to Walt revealing to Hank, Marie and Walter Jr. that he had cancer being one case in point) and it's just monotonous. Every scene she's in she develops a dour persona and rarely smiles. All this "if you prefer Walt to Skyler you're missing the point of the show" talk is akin to the fanboism you experience whenever someone criticises the show. It's complete and utter shite.
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Aye how dare a pregnant woman break down when her husband has inoperable lung cancer and was in the midst of describing how they met. How fecking dare she!
 
Rooney in Paris said:
The Wire is evidently (I say evidently to hammer my point, of course it's just personal opinion) a superior show to Breaking Bad. But BB, a bit like The Shield, has an enjoyment and satisfaction factor that sets it apart and earns it the support it gets. What I mean is that the feeling of elation you have when watching the final three episodes of season 4 for example is incredible, when The Wire holds up better and is great because of its overall ambition, its acting and writing, and the social portrait of a city it paints. The Wire is ultimately more rewarding I'd say, but I don't think it's bad to love a show that is more aimed towards pure entertainment, it's a different ambition and when it's done right (like it is in Breaking Bad), it should be saluted. But plot holes are a necessary evil I'd say, as long as they're not absolutely ridiculous and don't destroy all suspension of disbelief (which I believe isn't the case in BB, the plot holes are fairly minor) I don't think there should be too much discussion about them, it's not dramatic. Also, what makes BB so good is its acting which is exceptional for a show more aimed towards entertainment (at least the last few seasons), some of the writing and some very interesting themes that run throughout the show and that will be discussed more and more once the show is over and people look further than just the entertainment value of it.
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Yep, agree with these sort of sentiments. Relative to the show's style, Breaking Bad is at least nearing perfection. The fact that it gets compared to The Wire and The Sopranos despite being entirely different in its nature goes to show how well written it actually is. A development like that of Walt's is basically unheard of in 99.9999% of shows, never mind in a show that people in this thread have at times said is more 'popcorn', 'action-movie' etc in style at times. Funnily enough, I was going to mention The Shield as a comparison just to highlight the standard Breaking Bad has reached. I've seen a lot of people on here say that The Shield is the best show they've watched, their favourite, one of the best of all time, etc... but for me the difference in class between The Shield and Breaking Bad is significant. I really enjoyed The Shield too - that ending will stay with me for a long, long time - but a lot more work has been put into the characters and plot in Breaking Bad. The plot is more gripping, it has better direction and the characters are more engrossing by and large. It also doesn't rely on episodic plotlines in order to fill space in a season like The Shield does, and the standard of acting doesn't reach the lows that it does with people like Ronnie.

Blabbing again now, but I think a point to be considered in light of that comparison is whether it is even possible in some people's eyes for a show like Breaking Bad to break into that top 3, or whether a show has to be more in the style of the absolute realism and ambition of The Wire/The Sopranos. If Breaking Bad finishes in a fashion true to the quality of the rest of the series and people still say it isn't up there, does it stand that it isn't possible for that sort of program to be one of the very greatest ever? Or does it instead mean that a show like that can only go into that category if it is absolutely perfect?

I don't actually know to be honest... Already gone through The Sopranos again but I will only have a better idea after seeing The Wire and Breaking Bad a second time. My thoughts at the moment are that The Sopranos is in a category of its own, with their not being all that much between The Wire and Breaking Bad after that. None of them are perfect by any means, but you're more likely to have greater imperfections in Breaking Bad simply because of the type of drama it is. The Sopranos/The Wire don't allow for that really, but at the same time I wouldn't say they allow for the same thrill either. I pretty much had to go and collect myself at the end of season 4, it was incredible.
 
It is interesting how when talking about greatest films of all time, people are far more comfortable with comparing movies with different genres and focal points, and people are comfortable to have a list with Pulp Fiction and The Godfather on a similar level- but with TV, if it's not The Sopranos-like then it is a lesser form of TV and can go feck itself.
 
You must really ruin TV for yourself when you look at things so deeply. Can you not just enjoy them for what they are?
 
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nahealai said:
  • The twins: They were given such an enormous build-up from early on in Series 2, appearing in loads of scenes that were apparently critical to the plot. Despite almost executing Hank in a public shoot-out (in which a civilian was also killed), they were never mentioned again. Their motives, the men they may have received orders from, the phone call Hank received as a warning immediately prior to the attack, all conveniently never mentioned again. Ridiculous.
  • The pink teddy intro for the duration of Series 2: The writers built it up to appear that a major event had occurred in the White household that ended in fatalities. It was annoying as the series progressed, but even more annoying in hindsight once we knew the real reason for it. Pretentious and indulgent.
  • The airplane disaster: Linked to the above point. For such a huge local story, it was brushed over fairly rapidly. Apart from a few token Saul Goodman television adverts appealing for on-the-ground "victims" of the disaster to come forward, it was also conveniently forgotten very readily.
  • Jane's dad: Again, linked to the above. One of the show's high-points for me, but sadly he was under-used. His story was critical to one of the most explosive (excuse the pun) storylines in the entire series, yet again, he's allowed to slip off the radar again without a mere mention. Maybe I'm used to watching shows with lots of diverse characters being used brilliantly, and BB does have a small core cast, but the ease of which they eliminate apparently central characters without mentioning them again is quite annoying.
  • Skyler and Jesse: These two characters, ones central to the theme of the series, do not sufficiently engage and convince the viewer of their complete antithesis to Walt's character progression and outlook on the situation. Jesse's arc is mundane when he's in his self-loathing state, and Skyler is among the most-hated lead characters ever to grace television. I think the show would achieve its goal far better if those two were equally convincing in their roles as Walt is in his (For what it's worth, I think Aaron Paul is a terrific actor and has had some memorable moments, but his "moping" scenes are uninspiring and don't do him nor his character justice.)
  • Hank's conclusion that Walt is Heisenberg: Too rushed. It's even more annoying that Walt realised Hank knew almost as fast. For something that was skirted around for five series for a variety of reasons, for the bombshell to come in the space of a day or two - at most - is cheating a little I feel. Walt going from "geek brother-in-law" to "mass-murdering sociopathic druglord" in Hank's mind in a matter of hours is very far-fetched. It might have been better served if Hank came to this conclusion gradually from the evidence/clues available to him. Not to mention the fact that Walt left the one thing actually tying him to the Fring organisation (the book) lying around the house is just bizarre. For a man who justified the killing of a child to "clean up loose ends", it is scarcely believable. Almost as believable as Hank using Walt's en-suite shitter in the first place. Really?
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I agree with all of that. I found all of those annoying, except maybe Jane's dad. The worst was the

Pink teddy/Airline disaster. Massively built up, and had nothing to do with anything really. It's not even referenced now. No one cares.
 
So we can conclude that Breaking Bad would be perfect if only Badger had ditched the Star Trek stuff and said to Skinny Pete "Hey remember when that plane crashed last year?".
 
There's no such thing as a perfect TV show as they will always be flawed.

If the last lot of episodes are as good as the rest of the show then BB will certainly rank as one of, if not, the best ever.

I think they are going to be epic.

What time does it go on Netflix at?
 
Shite, I was hoping it would be earlier so I could watch it before going to work. Gives me something to look forward to / leave work early for!
 
I had a quick google at it and 2am seems to be the earliest it will air. I don't know what the time difference is from when it airs in America, but it's supposed to go up as soon as it's over in America.

Fingers crossed, I'll try and get up early and watch it if I can, but I'm not the best at doing anything in the morning so getting up 48 mins earlier than normal may be too much.
 
Started watching but this deserves better than a shitty, blurry, delayed stream. Took some determination to close the page after how that started.
 
Had to put up with is as my netflix ran out and I can't renew.

The sync was out so I had to get another stream up, and play the audio from one and video from another. We're 15 minutes in and we've had two ad breaks.
 
That's it?! You can't leave it there! Son of a bitch. Another quality episode although I imagine most people will think it was a bit slow and roundabout compared to last week's. But it's setting things up so well. Cannot wait for next week.
 
Thought it was a pretty boring episode, but you can't expect fireworks every episode really. Not sure how this will play out because hank seems like he's gonna do everything to get Walt.
 
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