Originally posted by blythy:
<strong> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Got his just desserts now eh!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Great post. What an intelligent young man you obviously are. Stupid feck !
Scumbags who beat the shit out of one guy. Sounds like a bunch of fecking cowards to me, what do you think should happen, get a medal and a place in the England team.
Originally posted by blythy:
<strong> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Got his just desserts now eh!
Got his just desserts for what exactly?? Being a young man who has done something wrong whilst under the influence of alcohol when he was 19?
For fecks sake Blythy he was found not guilty the other day not guilty!
Originally posted by The Future's White:
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Great post. What an intelligent young man you obviously are. Stupid feck !</strong><hr></blockquote>
A little bitter are we? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
I reckon the clubs taken legal advice and realised Bowyer will lose a civil action. There a good chance he could go up for perjery as well.
They want to off load him now before the shit really hits the fan.
They want to off load him now before the shit really hits the fan.
BOWYER TRANSFER LISTED!
by <a href="http://www.leedsunited.co.uk" target="_blank">www.leedsunited.co.uk</a>
United star Lee Bowyer has been placed on the transfer list for refusing to accept the club's punishment after breaking the club's code of conduct.
Chairman Peter Ridsdale released the following statement:
Following the conclusion of the trial last Friday, Leeds United Football Club, as previously indicated, has reviewed appropriate internal disciplinary action against Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate.
The Club acknowledges and accepts the verdict of the jury that Lee Bowyer was innocent of all charges. Nevertheless, and in his own admission, he was under undue influence of alcohol in the city centre late at night, which is against the Club's code of conduct.
Jonathan Woodgate was found guilty of affray and was sentenced at Hull Crown Court. The PFA maximum fine ceiling is two weeks wages. Following the internal disciplinary meeting between the Manager, David O'Leary and myself, Jonathan Woodgate has been given a fine of eight weeks wages. Jonathan has asked that this money be put towards funding work within our inner city communities, which we are more than happy to agree to. Jonathan will commit to work within our community programme. Jonathan has also been given a final warning regarding his future conduct.
Leeds United has imposed a fine of four weeks wages against Lee Bowyer, we would also insist that Lee work at the forefront of our community programme for the whole of the balance of his contract. Lee has also been warned regarding his future behaviour both on and off the field. Regrettably, Lee Bowyer has refused to accept this club disciplinary sanction and has, therefore, been placed on the transfer list with immediate effect. As a result of this Lee Bowyer will not be available for team selection by David O'Leary unless he accepts the club's disciplinary sanction.
Peter Ridsdale
Chairman
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This has nothing to do with the charges Bow faced and as you will see they make refence to the FACTthat he was found NOT GUILTY this is an internal breach of the clubs code of conduct and relates to Bow and Woodgate being drunk.
It makes me laugh that you are joing the media bandwagon that this was a racial attack when all the evidence says otherwise. In fact as Najeib threw the first punch and was throwing verbal insults around to start the chain of events perhaps it is he that should be on a charge of racism....but hell would freeze over before something like that would be allowed to happen! Justice my arse B4E
by <a href="http://www.leedsunited.co.uk" target="_blank">www.leedsunited.co.uk</a>
United star Lee Bowyer has been placed on the transfer list for refusing to accept the club's punishment after breaking the club's code of conduct.
Chairman Peter Ridsdale released the following statement:
Following the conclusion of the trial last Friday, Leeds United Football Club, as previously indicated, has reviewed appropriate internal disciplinary action against Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate.
The Club acknowledges and accepts the verdict of the jury that Lee Bowyer was innocent of all charges. Nevertheless, and in his own admission, he was under undue influence of alcohol in the city centre late at night, which is against the Club's code of conduct.
Jonathan Woodgate was found guilty of affray and was sentenced at Hull Crown Court. The PFA maximum fine ceiling is two weeks wages. Following the internal disciplinary meeting between the Manager, David O'Leary and myself, Jonathan Woodgate has been given a fine of eight weeks wages. Jonathan has asked that this money be put towards funding work within our inner city communities, which we are more than happy to agree to. Jonathan will commit to work within our community programme. Jonathan has also been given a final warning regarding his future conduct.
Leeds United has imposed a fine of four weeks wages against Lee Bowyer, we would also insist that Lee work at the forefront of our community programme for the whole of the balance of his contract. Lee has also been warned regarding his future behaviour both on and off the field. Regrettably, Lee Bowyer has refused to accept this club disciplinary sanction and has, therefore, been placed on the transfer list with immediate effect. As a result of this Lee Bowyer will not be available for team selection by David O'Leary unless he accepts the club's disciplinary sanction.
Peter Ridsdale
Chairman
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This has nothing to do with the charges Bow faced and as you will see they make refence to the FACTthat he was found NOT GUILTY this is an internal breach of the clubs code of conduct and relates to Bow and Woodgate being drunk.
It makes me laugh that you are joing the media bandwagon that this was a racial attack when all the evidence says otherwise. In fact as Najeib threw the first punch and was throwing verbal insults around to start the chain of events perhaps it is he that should be on a charge of racism....but hell would freeze over before something like that would be allowed to happen! Justice my arse
B4EAll I can say is
MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Leeds are screwed
I hope Milwall sign the dirty slag.
MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Leeds are screwed
I hope Milwall sign the dirty slag.
Originally posted by 2Bullish:
<strong>I reckon the clubs taken legal advice and realised Bowyer will lose a civil action. There a good chance he could go up for perjery as well.
They want to off load him now before the shit really hits the fan.</strong><hr></blockquote>
More bollox! Bow lied to police to protect his mates in initial interviews and this led the CPS to THINK they had a better case against him than they actually had - he did not lie on oath and therefore cannot be charged with perjury! If you are going to post get your facts staight
The judge said his testamany was littered with lies.
What more do you want.
What more do you want.
"do you want some paki"
sounds slightly racist to me.
sounds slightly racist to me.
feck off marching Bowyer didnt get done because of insufficient evidence, this doesnt mean hes innocent, it means there wasnt enough evidence for a SAFE conviction.
Lets get back to the facts, how many Leeds players and their mates attacked this ONE guy, nearly killing him?
You support this wanker because he plays for your team fair enough, if you want to be a stupid cnut thats your business but the fact remains, these cowards beat the shit out of one man and nearly killed him.
Want do you expect, the guys got history in the "lets beat up some Pakis" department.
P.S. Say hello to midtable for me
Lets get back to the facts, how many Leeds players and their mates attacked this ONE guy, nearly killing him?
You support this wanker because he plays for your team fair enough, if you want to be a stupid cnut thats your business but the fact remains, these cowards beat the shit out of one man and nearly killed him.
Want do you expect, the guys got history in the "lets beat up some Pakis" department.
P.S. Say hello to midtable for me
Originally posted by ChampionsElect:
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Probably isn't.
Do you think it was racially motivated?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Course it was racially motivated. One group Asian one white, obvious innit?..........
This is one of the many reasons why British justice is a piss take. It is heavily biased in favour of ethnic background and every body knows it.
Regardless of how good the evidence is in a case like this, those representing an ethnic minority will always play the race card to their advantage.
I like many I guess, have been "lagered up" in the past & stepped out of line. It happens.
And I've seen AND known Asian friends do exactly the same.
Bottom line (until proven otherwise) it was run of the mill agro. Wrong full stop and definately wrong for these two to be involved (being in the public eye).
What pisses me off about this is IMO, after the first trial folded they were NEVER going to go down.
I'm bloody amazed that Woodgate even got the affray.
fecking waste of money and any civil action is going to be the same.
Bollox the lot of it.
Originally posted by 2Bullish:
<strong>feck off marching Bowyer didnt get done because of insufficient evidence, this doesnt mean hes innocent, it means there wasnt enough evidence for a SAFE conviction.
Lets get back to the facts, how many Leeds players and their mates attacked this ONE guy, nearly killing him?
You support this wanker because he plays for your team fair enough, if you want to be a stupid cnut thats your business but the fact remains, these cowards beat the shit out of one man and nearly killed him.
Want do you expect, the guys got history in the "lets beat up some Pakis" department.
P.S. Say hello to midtable for me</strong><hr></blockquote>
well said
i heard that they were all congratulating each other on the way back to that club an all.
fecking well hard or what!
fecking hell marching
OJ got off with murder, does that mean he didnt do it too?
OJ got off with murder, does that mean he didnt do it too?
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
<strong>"do you want some paki"
sounds slightly racist to me.
Agreed Fergie - I would love to hear your answers to these questions.
1. Who exactly heard that said?
2. Who is supposed to have said it?
3. Were there any independant witnesses there when it was supposed to have been said?
4. Did the prosecution use this "evidence"?
5. If not why not?
Go on anser them one by one!
you sound racist now marching
you are prepared to believe everything that white guys say and nothing the asian lads say.
there were a lot of things that werent allowed to be said in court because not many people carry a tape recorder round with them, it doesnt mean it wasnt said however.
in any attack people tend to use verbal attacks as well as physical.
have u ever heard a fight in complete silence?
you are prepared to believe everything that white guys say and nothing the asian lads say.
there were a lot of things that werent allowed to be said in court because not many people carry a tape recorder round with them, it doesnt mean it wasnt said however.
in any attack people tend to use verbal attacks as well as physical.
have u ever heard a fight in complete silence?
No one is arguing that beating the shit out of someone is out of order but on the other hand it is horseshit that everytime someone who isn't white gets a beating it is a racially motivated attack.
Someone pulls their fist back to punch you are you not going to hit back because they are not white? What if you win and they are on the floor are you a racist? and are they going to say you attacked them as some sort of racially motivated attack? That card is used too much.
Someone pulls their fist back to punch you are you not going to hit back because they are not white? What if you win and they are on the floor are you a racist? and are they going to say you attacked them as some sort of racially motivated attack? That card is used too much.
Originally posted by Billy Blaggs:
<strong>No one is arguing that beating the shit out of someone is out of order but on the other hand it is horseshit that everytime someone who isn't white gets a beating it is a racially motivated attack.
Someone pulls their fist back to punch you are you not going to hit back because they are not white? What if you win and they are on the floor are you a racist? and are they going to say you attacked them as some sort of racially motivated attack? That card is used too much.</strong><hr></blockquote>
i dont believe that the attack would have been as vicious if the guy was white.
Bowyer handed over a blood stained jacket, where did that come from, picking his nose?
Woodgate handed over a different pair of shoes.
I would have thought a dignified silence was in order here, I know I would if it was a UTD player.
And what about Bowyers previous assault on Pakistanis, is this all just a coincidence?
Are you a fully paid up member of the BNP by any chance.
P.S. send us a postcard from mid table
Woodgate handed over a different pair of shoes.
I would have thought a dignified silence was in order here, I know I would if it was a UTD player.
And what about Bowyers previous assault on Pakistanis, is this all just a coincidence?
Are you a fully paid up member of the BNP by any chance.
P.S. send us a postcard from mid table
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> I knew you would not answer the questions so I will for you.....
1.Sarfraz Najeib
2.Someone in a white shirt
3.NO
4.No
5.Because nobody else heard it and independant witnesses said it was not said and nobody there at the time had a white shirt on.
The law states that if anybody feels a crime to be racial then the police must investigate it as such - this was the case here so the police spent a lot of time trying to build a case against Bowyer etc based on race. However they could not find any evidence and that includes statements made by Sarfrazs brother whoi said race did not play a part in it.
So the prosecution agreed to drop the matter there and then.
Shame now when money is involved it is raising its ugly head.
1.Sarfraz Najeib
2.Someone in a white shirt
3.NO
4.No
5.Because nobody else heard it and independant witnesses said it was not said and nobody there at the time had a white shirt on.
The law states that if anybody feels a crime to be racial then the police must investigate it as such - this was the case here so the police spent a lot of time trying to build a case against Bowyer etc based on race. However they could not find any evidence and that includes statements made by Sarfrazs brother whoi said race did not play a part in it.
So the prosecution agreed to drop the matter there and then.
Shame now when money is involved it is raising its ugly head.
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
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i dont believe that the attack would have been as vicious if the guy was white.
Well you can believe what you want as can I but we don't know that
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
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i dont believe that the attack would have been as vicious if the guy was white.
That's complete bollox.
If the mindset of the attackers is violent then colour is irrelevant.
Many years ago I got a major "kicking" because I was in the Armed Forces.
If people want a ruck they will use any excuse. There's no sliding scale of violence in these situations.
Originally posted by ElmParkRed:
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That's complete bollox.
If the mindset of the attackers is violent then colour is irrelevant.
Many years ago I got a major "kicking" because I was in the Armed Forces.
If people want a ruck they will use any excuse. There's no sliding scale of violence in these situations.
racist or not, the attack on Safraz was outta order... agreed?
how anyone can stick up for Bowyer and his crew is beyond me.
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
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i dont believe that the attack would have been as vicious if the guy was white.
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
You are now spouting the same shite as Sarfrazs brother....what a load of crap mate.
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
<strong>"do you want some paki"
sounds slightly racist to me.
That's things that get said in the heat of the moment. Not good, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the attack was racially motivated.
I've many a times said f*** off black this and that on the footie pitch, just as I've had f*** off blondie etc thrown at me - without me or anyone else being racists.
Originally posted by The Future's White:
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Jesus, I think I'll agree with whatever this bloke says from now on !!</strong><hr></blockquote>
hey i didnt say i did it!
but i didnt say i didnt