Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)

A 4-0 nil pasting at City, side ravaged by injuries... The last person I'm thinking of is Boehly.

Plus this is par for the course for Chelsea. Periods of peak over performing before a return to top 4/6 base level, occasional drop down to midtable. Coincides with how frequent they sack and hire managers.

Deeper than that though isn’t it. Sacking a world class manager just after he arrived, building this entire Chelsea setup with a full back room team from Brighton seems like a terrible idea in retrospect. Spending 200m on complete crap whilst playing real life football manager.

This side has switched off it only ends one way and he’s now stuck with an entire coaching and management team built from Brighton hes fecked.
 
From the shed end. Little harsh? Don't think it's too wrong either



Really strange decision not letting him see out the season at least. Was there a queue of clubs fighting for Potter's signature?

He was sacked because he was checked out from the job due to his divorce. Our results before he was sacked were similar to Potter.

Yes can criticise getting Potter to replace, out of his depth.. ? We'll see. Not clear who else we could have got in then or now.
 
He was sacked because he was checked out from the job due to his divorce. Our results before he was sacked were similar to Potter.

Yes can criticise getting Potter to replace, out of his depth.. ? We'll see. Not clear who else we could have got in then or now.
I agree. Tuchel needed to get the bullet and Potter is a good coach. The issue is that they wasted their money in the summer and did all of their spending before sounding out Potter- who would certainly have directed them to make better signings (or at least signings that he wanted).
 
What a bad decision to sack Tuchel. Is Boehly making all the football decisions? If so, excellent! Reminds me of us when we had Ed Woodward in charge. A banker running a football team. What a disaster that was.
 
Clearly Boehly bought the club but he didn't know where to start.
Had already Chilwell, Maatsen and Hall and he bought Cucurella for 70m.
Sterling and Koulibaly past his prime.
Aubameyang: ex player.

He wasted 200m and the team is worst than last year.

Now he appoint Vivell, and this is the first good deal. Badiashile, D. Fofana, Santos are good signings. But offer 120m for Enzo Fernández, that Benfica bought for 12m only 4 months ago, is ridiculous.

The problem is not Potter. And was not Tuchel. The problem is a disastrous summer transfer market.
 
What a bad decision to sack Tuchel. Is Boehly making all the football decisions? If so, excellent! Reminds me of us when we had Ed Woodward in charge. A banker running a football team. What a disaster that was.


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I think Boehly is going to destroy Chelsea FC. From a scattergun transfer window of weird signings and no real planning, just getting what other teams are after.

To now sacking Tuchel after a few bad results.

Seems very volatile and not a good sign for the future.

Discuss

What a great opener, good call. Looking like you were spot on with this.
 
Deeper than that though isn’t it. Sacking a world class manager just after he arrived, building this entire Chelsea setup with a full back room team from Brighton seems like a terrible idea in retrospect. Spending 200m on complete crap whilst playing real life football manager.

This side has switched off it only ends one way and he’s now stuck with an entire coaching and management team built from Brighton hes fecked.

World class manager is neither Tuchel nor Potter. Tuchel had a couple seasons post CL title and it was very clear they were not improving in the league, which is the best barometer of improvement. Even with a misfit and misfire like Lukaku, he didn't have the ideas to make Chelsea better. They lost their resolve in defense and shape, all while not able to score.
 
I agree. Tuchel needed to get the bullet and Potter is a good coach. The issue is that they wasted their money in the summer and did all of their spending before sounding out Potter- who would certainly have directed them to make better signings (or at least signings that he wanted).
The problem is the previous management structure failed to have measures in place for the summer. The transfer ban prevented us from renewing contracts which really fecked is over and then come the summer they were scrambling for players available in the market. Boehly has been trying to get a new structure in place, a new scouting team and stadium renovations amongst other things and then had to support Tuchel in signing cast offs to field a team for the season. Probably one of many reasons why he was fired besides going from January into the new season in atrocious form. But yeah, apparently it’s definitely the new ownerships fault for picking up a mess of a club with a toxic culture that he has been trying to remove.
 
The problem is the previous management structure failed to have measures in place for the summer. The transfer ban prevented us from renewing contracts which really fecked is over and then come the summer they were scrambling for players available in the market. Boehly has been trying to get a new structure in place, a new scouting team and stadium renovations amongst other things and then had to support Tuchel in signing cast offs to field a team for the season. Probably one of many reasons why he was fired besides going from January into the new season in atrocious form. But yeah, apparently it’s definitely the new ownerships fault for picking up a mess of a club with a toxic culture that he has been trying to remove.

So it's Tuchel and Abramovic's fault? Sounds like Boehly might be your saviour!
 
Deeper than that though isn’t it. Sacking a world class manager just after he arrived, building this entire Chelsea setup with a full back room team from Brighton seems like a terrible idea in retrospect. Spending 200m on complete crap whilst playing real life football manager.

This side has switched off it only ends one way and he’s now stuck with an entire coaching and management team built from Brighton hes fecked.

Tuchel was not world class at Chelsea overall.

I believe sacking Tuchel was silly. But I've been told for years by Chelsea fans that this is the Chelsea way: we don't tolerate blips, we fire our way to success. This isn't something new with Boehly.

I think most criticism of Potter can be categorized as "hindsight is 20/20"... Assuming EtH didn't exist most United fans would have loved Potter to replace Ralf.

Recruitment seems more shotgun and pray than anything...
 
Tuchel was not world class at Chelsea overall.

I believe sacking Tuchel was silly. But I've been told for years by Chelsea fans that this is the Chelsea way: we don't tolerate blips, we fire our way to success. This isn't something new with Boehly.

I think most criticism of Potter can be categorized as "hindsight is 20/20"... Assuming EtH didn't exist most United fans would have loved Potter to replace Ralf.

Recruitment seems more shotgun and pray than anything...

On the pitch, replacing Maguire, McFred and the vampire ghost of Ronaldo with world class players is way more instrumental than having Ten Hag or Potter at the wheel, though? Chelsea have not enough good enough players to contend at the moment, and there is no magic wand to make average players overperform in a consistent manner.
 
He was sacked because he was checked out from the job due to his divorce. Our results before he was sacked were similar to Potter.

Yes can criticise getting Potter to replace, out of his depth.. ? We'll see. Not clear who else we could have got in then or now.

He was sacked because having stated he wanted solely to coach and not be involved in transfers the new owners were unhappy with his lack of enthusiasm for courting new players.

Calling him "checked out from the job" is ludicrous.
 
Couldn't be happening to a nice club/group of fans.

Is the owner the opposite of the Glazers? Wasn't that supposed to be a good thing?
 
I think Potter is a great manager. He’s got a team he didn’t put tighter and full of under performing players and big injury list.
Look at Brighton side and the Chelsea side and the midfield of Chelsea is nowhere close to the quality of Brighton - too slow and passive and that’s the heartbeat of a side.
Chelsea need to stick with Potter and allow him time. Write the season off because they ain’t winning the league and top 4 will be a huge push from where they are now.
 
The problem is the previous management structure failed to have measures in place for the summer. The transfer ban prevented us from renewing contracts which really fecked is over and then come the summer they were scrambling for players available in the market. Boehly has been trying to get a new structure in place, a new scouting team and stadium renovations amongst other things and then had to support Tuchel in signing cast offs to field a team for the season. Probably one of many reasons why he was fired besides going from January into the new season in atrocious form. But yeah, apparently it’s definitely the new ownerships fault for picking up a mess of a club with a toxic culture that he has been trying to remove.

:lol: some of you really deserve this shitshow.
 
The problem is the previous management structure failed to have measures in place for the summer. The transfer ban prevented us from renewing contracts which really fecked is over and then come the summer they were scrambling for players available in the market. Boehly has been trying to get a new structure in place, a new scouting team and stadium renovations amongst other things and then had to support Tuchel in signing cast offs to field a team for the season. Probably one of many reasons why he was fired besides going from January into the new season in atrocious form. But yeah, apparently it’s definitely the new ownerships fault for picking up a mess of a club with a toxic culture that he has been trying to remove.

The transfer ban didn't cause our previous management to lowball Rudiger for god knows what reason when he very obviously was our best defender and should have been our captain.

And speaking of cast-offs, you do realise that Boehly was the one who wanted us to sign Ronaldo?

Tuchel had to deal with a ridiculous injury crisis on top of the most tumultuous and unprecedented period in the club's history yet still got us to every cup final bar the CL in year 2 whilst securing us top 4 in both years. Suggesting that Potter has it worse that Tuchel did last year is absofeckinglutely nonsense - and Tuchel never had a run where we won 1 PL game in 8. Stop with the ludicrous false equivalences. Anyone from the outside looking in will tell you that Tuchel is very obviously the vastly superior manager - and even at our lowest point under Tuchel we were still a capable side to be reckoned with unlike right now.
 
Tuchel had to deal with a ridiculous injury crisis on top of the most tumultuous and unprecedented period in the club's history yet still got us to every cup final bar the CL in year 2 whilst securing us top 4 in both years. Suggesting that Potter has it worse that Tuchel did last year is absofeckinglutely nonsense - and Tuchel never had a run where we won 1 PL game in 8. Stop with the ludicrous false equivalences. Anyone from the outside looking in will tell you that Tuchel is very obviously the vastly superior manager - and even at our lowest point under Tuchel we were still a capable side to be reckoned with unlike right now.

I remember that. That's why it baffles me that folks here have been saying that he was overrated and deserved to be sacked.
By all accounts, he was supposed to be one of the best coaches in the world albeit a difficult person (so was Fergie.) And he objected to Boeley's idea of bringing in Ronaldo which didn't help his relationship with Boeley.

But being new owners, they want to make a new big splash, so I guess Tuchel was in thin ice the moment Boeley came into the picture.
I always thought they should have kept Tuchel.
 
I remember that. That's why it baffles me that folks here have been saying that he was overrated and deserved to be sacked.
By all accounts, he was supposed to be one of the best coaches in the world albeit a difficult person (so was Fergie.) And he objected to Boeley's idea of bringing in Ronaldo which didn't help his relationship with Boeley.

But being new owners, they want to make a new big splash, so I guess Tuchel was in thin ice the moment Boeley came into the picture.
I always thought they should have kept Tuchel.

A lot of Chelsea fans point to the argument that "our form was bad from January onward!!!!!11!!!" ignoring the fact that we got absolutely hosed by COVID protocols during that period and then lost both Chilwell and James for the entire season / months, respectively. And then on top of that every single aspect of the club's inner workings was thrown into disarray by the sanctions - yet Tuchel was the guy holding it all together:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EerbJJMRwuU

This is inspirational stuff given the context of what was going on at the time. It's no wonder Tuchel had the best relationship with our support and for all of this chaos and emotion to be handwaved a year on by idiots who blindly want to support Potter and the new regime no matter what is unconscionable if you ask me.
 
The more I think about it, the more muddled the thinking is behind what Chelsea are doing here.

If Chelsea are really keen on building something for the long term, why get rid of Tuchel in the middle of a busy week, one week after the transfer window shuts? Why force yourself to do all that long term thinking in about 24 hours instead of over several months? Bringing in a manager where you're committing to at least 2 to 3 years no matter what happens requires serious due diligence. He may have potential, but Potter is a huge risk. If you not only bring in a manager like Potter, but build the club's senior management around him and it goes wrong, you are royally fecked (see United and Ole). So from a long term, empire building perspective, this is a terrible approach.

On the other hand, if the real concern is that this season is falling apart and you might miss out on top 4, why pick a manager with no track record whatsoever at this level? Potter is up against Pep, Klopp, ten Hag, Conte and Arteta, some real heavy hitters (plus Arteta). City apart, those other teams all have squads that are more or less comparable in quality. If it boils down to the ability of the coach to drag their teams through the season, you would have to put Potter flat last out of that group. That's not a reflection of his ceiling, which could be really high, its just a reflection of where he is right now, he's the manager of mid-table club. So from a short term, results focussed perspective, this is a terrible approach.

At this point in time my guess it that they'll go with Potter, make a big song and dance about it being a long term project but then ditch him at the first major wobble.

This post is looking more astute with every passing week. From Sept. 8th.
 
I think Potter will be just fine as long as he gets time. He's a very good manager.!!
 
I think Potter will be just fine as long as he gets time. He's a very good manager.!!

Will be interesting how low they drop in the league before panic really sets in.

Of course they're not getting relegated but draw v Fulham and Palace and lose to Liverpool and they will be floating around 12/13th.

Given the last 20 years it will be just odd to see Chelsea's name in that position, it's not the 80s/early 90s anymore. Bar that bizarre 15/16 you're talking about a side fixed in top 6 since 1996/97.
 
I think most criticism of Potter can be categorized as "hindsight is 20/20"... Assuming EtH didn't exist most United fans would have loved Potter to replace Ralf.
Can't agree with this. Potter hadn't proven himself at any sort of high level to warrant being an option for us, he was merely the flavour of the week and just hyped up as the next big thing like English managers tend to get whenever they string some good performances together. Chelsea were taking a big risk with him and it hasn't paid off.

This isn't his team, he hasn't been dealt a good hand in that regard. If Boehly is smart he'll give Potter a couple of windows to build a squad, but to expect a Championship level manager who was going through a golden patch and getting a lot of attention, to suddenly not only manage one of the biggest CL competitors in Europe, but also do it with next to zero input in who his players were, was always a recipe for disaster.

Having said that, I thought Conte was a good manager so...
 
Thinking about it now, Conte might be a better fit for Chelsea than Potter now. With the way Boehly is running things, splashing major cash on players with little input from managers think Conte would have done better for them
 
I think Boehly is going to destroy Chelsea FC. From a scattergun transfer window of weird signings and no real planning, just getting what other teams are after.

To now sacking Tuchel after a few bad results.

Seems very volatile and not a good sign for the future.

Discuss
With any luck, and God’s favor smiling on us, you will be correct.
 
even at our lowest point under Tuchel we were still a capable side to be reckoned with unlike right now.
Agree. I don't watch Chelsea much but last season it's true you looked like a top team whenever you had to face a top team. City and Liverpool had a very hard time playing you guys if my memory serves me right. Not like now.
 
The biggest mistake seems like sacking Cech and Marina Whatshername and then expecting things to operate properly without adequate replacements, all while spending stupid money on meh players.

You have to feel for Potter though. He's been brought in with transfers that happened before he joined and has had no time to put his stamp on the side and implement his style. He's now abandoned his system just to get them out of the rut and that's not exactly working out either. The owner has made this mess and is now faced with the choice of backing the manager hard in a difficult window or firing him and bringing in someone who can steady the ship for a while.
 
The biggest mistake seems like sacking Cech and Marina Whatshername and then expecting things to operate properly without adequate replacements, all while spending stupid money on meh players.

You have to feel for Potter though. He's been brought in with transfers that happened before he joined and has had no time to put his stamp on the side and implement his style. He's now abandoned his system just to get them out of the rut and that's not exactly working out either. The owner has made this mess and is now faced with the choice of backing the manager hard in a difficult window or firing him and bringing in someone who can steady the ship for a while.

It will be the rare occasion that a billionaire will admit that he fecked up. It will always be the underling that just wasn't good enough.
 
To be fair, corrupt and malicious investors from the Gulf are much better at club management than white gentlemen from US and UK. It’s just an observation not an invitation for another political discussion of how Western elite is benevolent compared to Oriental tyrants.
 
I doubt that he will ruin what is now a global football brand, and a v attractive club for players and managers. But, there will be a period of corporate transition... he's learning the hard way about what happens when you change things, too quickly without the right people around you.

Potter is like Southgate to me (aside from the physical appearance...). Great on TV, Newspaper columns, 'insightful' interviews etc...but they struggle when dealing with the real football heavyweights.

I'm not sure Potter is convinced he can do that job. Chelsea have a terrific squad and should be challenging for the title and CL.