I might be wrong but this seems like some young kid playing Championship Manager and not really know what to do.
Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)
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He's putting football people in charge of recruitment, so that makes no sense.
He makes Woodward look astute in the transfer market. Am not even joking.
Yeah but has that happened yet? No.
Has he been getting the targets? Yes.
Has it been stupid, ridiculous and reckless and almost child in a sweetshop like? Yes.
He may be putting them in charge now, but up until this point the running of Chelsea football club has been utterly shambolic, at least United looked like a football club at times.
He left the DOF open because he clearly wants Michael Edwards and is willing to wait for him.
I get the feeling he didn't even know Felix last year and just found out he's the hot shit
Guy has major FOMO.
Again, Boehly wanted to micromanage everything which isn’t unusual to how a lot of US firms operate.
Not exactly that surprising after spending £200 million with pretty much nothing to show for it.
I don't think they do that either. You hire people who knows what to do. And you hire lot of them.
There’s no plan at all and the flip flopping to Felix confirms it.
Several months on and business is still all over the place.
Several months on and business is still all over the place.
To be fair I'm pretty sure we were linked with Felix in reliable sources (ie. The Telegraph) way before any talk of United/Arsenal ever appeared so it's not like the interest in him is a new thing that only just today appeared out of nowhere.
That said I personally don't rate him and hope he doesn't sign. Has all the makings of another big money flop.
Nah let’s be honest. You bodged Fernandez by trying to mug off Benfica, moved on to Mudryk and tried to sweet talk the director at the bridge which failed, and have now agreed to the ridiculous demands being made by Atletico.
I do feel sorry for you guys as it’s clear there’s no plan or strategy. Much like in the summer.
Cech and Marina were not sacked. Marina was and probably still is an employee of Roman. She ran Chelsea for him. She was never a Chelsea employee, not in anything but name. She left immediately after the sale went through along with Buck. Cech spoke to the new owners and he left in mutually agreeable terms because they wanted to go in a different direction. That’s how businesses are run, management changes all the time.
I think he'd have to drop out of the top 10 permanently for them to consider pulling the trigger.
He's a disaster worst than Woodward
So, most of you probably do t follow Chelsea that close, so you may have missed a podcast where Jacobs got this exactly right:
They were in line to hire BOTH Fruend and Vivell from the RB group. Edwards is great, but that would be forever to wait, and still not a sure thing.
They thought it was settled, but at the last minute RV changed their minds and said they had a new contract with Fruend and would not let him leave.
Friend would have been DoF, Vivell would have been Technical Director .
We still wanted Vivell. And, as we have been assembling the group, they have been more and more impressed with him. Vivell has been essentially running the recruitment show for weeks now.
This announcement is for clicks and attention shielding to help Potter. Boehly doesn’t care if people “roast” him. If he can take heat off Potter, job done.
They were in line to hire BOTH Fruend and Vivell from the RB group. Edwards is great, but that would be forever to wait, and still not a sure thing.
They thought it was settled, but at the last minute RV changed their minds and said they had a new contract with Fruend and would not let him leave.
Friend would have been DoF, Vivell would have been Technical Director .
We still wanted Vivell. And, as we have been assembling the group, they have been more and more impressed with him. Vivell has been essentially running the recruitment show for weeks now.
This announcement is for clicks and attention shielding to help Potter. Boehly doesn’t care if people “roast” him. If he can take heat off Potter, job done.
Heat off Potter? He's in the Goblet of Fire, you're mid table and sinking fast, these signings are nothing but panic buys that could leave you with serious egg on your face.
Ok… I don’t LIKE the plan, but there is a plan.
People are talking about the scattergun approach, but the truth is that everything we do is over exposed in the media right now, that’s all. Every team, every one, has a working list of like 30 people at least for every 4 or 5 they bring in. Asking if a player is available, or allowing a team to come by to pitch you on someone (like Inter with Dumfries) doesn’t mean “chasing a player”.
Like, say CB’s, if you count Kounde (who is still mostly playing RB), then we targeted and had serious discussions with 5 targets to get 3, and that was starting from a general list of about 15. That’s …. Pretty calculated. You may not agree with their choices, but that’s a different issue.
The “panic buys” of last window were purely down to the train wreck that was their relationship with Tuchel. He was still telling them through his assistants he didn’t need a RB or midfielder on deadline day.
Now we have a very experienced group. One that had long scouting lists of their own already in place and an idea, with Potter, what they want the team to look like.
BUT, now they are dealing with a poor table position and a January window.Sending out feelers to test a teams resolve on players is normal; there is just a full news blast each time we do it.
The Felix thing is as much about repairing our foothold in Portugal through Mendes as it is about the player (I believe). We don’t just want to operate, we want to own a team there, and probably will within a year or so. That said … players that are playing for their livelihoods (auditioning for a second chance and a new home… their football career really) will at least attack a switch like this with everything they have personally.
But the attacking pickings are slim.
They absolutely know what they would “like” to do though. They aren’t throwing darts at a board. Doing it is an entirely different proposition.
He won't do anywhere near as bad a job as the Glazers so it's hard to feel for them
So no scattergun approach, just overexposure by media.
Transfers during the summer were down to their difficult relationship with Tuchel.
And getting Felix on loan is to enhance their relationship with Mendes, on route to buying a club in Portugal.
That clears everything up then
So going for Enzo Fernandez, Badashille, Mudryk and Felix required the secret scouting lists of this experienced group?!
I appreciate your enthusiasm and dedication to the cause but it’s an absolute shambles. You tried to pull the wool over Benficas eyes a few days ago yet you want to repair your relationship in Portugal with Jorge Mendes?
It doesn’t really make much sense.
Not heat from the club, someone else to take some of the press naggings.
Potter isnt actually under fire with the club. He is a part of the process trying to move the club through this period.
Arteta finished 8th TWICE before starting to turn things around… and with nowhere near the injury record.
The people that matter know this. The Chelsea fans are starting to catch on and support the process a little more.. at least begrudgingly.
No more “player power” … they can find a new team. No more sending away guys like Musiala and avoiding the youth we want to develop.
We have an excellent, experienced team of professionals in our front office, scouting and player development structure that JUST started… like 3 weeks ago.
It will be fine.
Arteta came in to Arsenal at their lowest ebb.
No trophies, no title challenges and top 4 or CL football in years. Arguably it still took him winning the FA cup to keep his job.
Potter is taking over a team that recently won the CL, is a constant top 4 finisher and played in two cup finals last year. I think he’ll get time but to compare yourselves and Arsenal/Arteta in this scenario is wrong. It’s totally different as are the expectations.
In terms of youth you’ve just sent away Colwill and have CHO on loan in Germany. You keep buying players who play in their positions and are even playing players who have no future at the club ahead of youngsters.
The Chelsea fans were booing quite audibly yesterday and chanting for Tuchel.
I see Baghdad Bob is back
Good.
I absolutely love the the defence by Chelsea fans, we’ve all been doing the same thing since 2013. You’re wrong.
I didn’t say anything was secret.
We switch from Gvardiol to Badiashile two days after Vivell was officially in position, as an example.
It actually doesn’t seem that complicated to me.
The extent to which it isn’t a secret?
I found an interview from Football Terrace with Jacobs from 5 days before the Enzo issue blew up where he distinctly outlined that if they refused the structured payment approach, they would counter with a lump sum bid much much lower than the release.
So, no, not secret. And yes Vivell was the one who went down to Portugal for the negotiations.
I think Vivell actually wants Kone though… so not sure he was that fussed about it.
The attackers are simply desperation. There is no telling how long Sterling and Pulisic will be out for… and Pulisic and Ziyech were supposed to move on by now.
Leao isn’t happening in Winter. Zarkharyan can’t move due to “currently living in Russia” issues.
So we are having to go to 5th, 6th, 7th targets.
And yes, targets of opportunity. Mudryk is a talented player and there is s 20m gap t ok be bridged for Arsenal to sign him.
So we said “meet him and his agent and get concrete agreement t they would be willing to join, and we’ll throw our hat in”
Vivell and Winstanley both signed off, and I think he would have been a decent signing.
None of this is super unique or secret… BUT… it also isn’t super weird or “scattergun”
As people have pointed out, we have lost enough players to injury to field an entire side that could challenge for European places. The team was already 5 years behind in some areas on maintenance, and we lost starters in frees due to sanctions.
We have to buy a ton of people just to establish a new baseline
Haven't we all been saying that the club is rotten from top to bottom and there's nothing to be done but get the owners out, at least until ETH arrived and knew what he was doing?
There's been two or three posters here defending the Glazers and explaining how irrelevant the debt is and such, but pretty much everyone else hates them with a passion dating back to 2005.
We’ve all constantly defended the transfers at various points. We’ve always hated the Glazers sure, but with every deal you have people including me, defending these type of panic buys.
Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary measures.
Does Potter actually have that team though? Potter inherited a team that didn’t even know if they would have a club to play for. They didn’t the ire ious 6 months in a bunker of sorts.
The team that finished last year limped across the line.
The team that won the CL had Rudiger, Christensen, Kante, Chilwell, Werner (I can’t believe how much I miss him right now…), and Reece James, and you get Silvas and Azpi’s. All that matters.
With a healthy Kante and Reece James this team would be much better as well. The 59 minutes we had Janes and Zakaria playing we looked like a completely different team, creating chances for fun.
The team has serious design flaws because it was put together by like 5 different people with different philosophies . AND they are old and injured. AND letting Tuchel have so much input the first window was a mistake.
It is a lot to overcome.
On purchases: the club just came out talked about Colwill being heavily in their plans today. I already said the idea would be to have 2 quality players in that position. Now it’s Badiashile and Colwill. Badiashile is not in the same tier as guys like Casadei who were purely youth purchases.
Benoit has like 137? Starts for Monaco, including European experience. There is video of his recent game against PSG where he was matched up with Mbappe, Messi and Hakimi at different points one v one and he put the locks on as they shut PSG out.
He’s a talented, experienced player. Colwill is getting that experience this year. We will see how CHO does. I want him to do well, but we will see. But we are finding pathways to get the younger players on the pitch.
Surely he has a slew of sensible advisors around him. Just needs a DOF that knows his stuff to get the club going in the right direction and looking at the right targets moving forward. Im sure Potter has some input in targets, just need to get on board a decent DOF to work alongside Potter and himself.
Yes, him appointing himself was never a full time thing.
You think it was his decision and he picked to sign David Fafro Fofana and Andrey Santos, Have a day off.
He wants Edwards and thats why he wont appoint a full time DOF until Edwards has made a decision.
We have been linked to Felix for over a month. It was in several speculative articles that if Felix came Pulisic would be sold. This has been going on for quite some time. Not sure it is a great deal, but it is not out of the blue.