There’s me thinking all the worst takes on this website were confined to the takeover thread…
Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)
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There’s me thinking all the worst takes on this website were confined to the takeover thread…
I mean, you don't actually see the sheer level of hypocrisy of Gary Lineker ranting about a nation while he's taking a wage from the very same people?
You are talking absolute shite. We kicked Ronaldo out, didn't sell him to a club.They are outrageous about anything Chelsea do. Remember they were bailed out by same saudi club Ronaldo size problem mid season not long ago. Oh yeah let's forget about it.
Can see why after 1700 posts they haven't made it out of newbies.
Ronaldo has his contract terminated, then independently he went to Saudi Arabia. He could have gone any club, or retired, for all United cared, didn't impact the club at all.
They are outrageous about anything Chelsea do. Remember they were bailed out by same saudi club Ronaldo size problem mid season not long ago. Oh yeah let's forget about it.
How can you not see the difference? Wow.
They will not have any game in Europe next season, have a pretty decent squad anyway and will probably invest again for their few missing positions.
If Pochettino finds the right balance in his team I think that they can be absolute contenders for Top 4.
I think Arsenal will find it difficult to replicate their form, as well as us, leaving Pool and Chelsea (and of course City) fighting for the first places.
If Pochettino finds the right balance in his team I think that they can be absolute contenders for Top 4.
I think Arsenal will find it difficult to replicate their form, as well as us, leaving Pool and Chelsea (and of course City) fighting for the first places.
Ah. Right. Thought you were talking about anyone who was getting a pay check!
How much you paid for Ronaldo to terminate his contract. Arab club came in offered wages more than you gave him. He wanted to go. You happily accept the trouble maker to go without paying single penny to terminate his contract. His wages also saved.
Public Investment of Saudi Supremacy.
PISS.
PISS.
Estimated player values on Transfermarkt.com:
Edouard Mendy €12M
Hakim Ziyech €16M
Kalidou Koulibaly €15M
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang €4M
These estimations are updated every few months and the last update was today on June 20th which provided a slight drop off in value for every one of the four players. Overall €47M for the lot and by the looks of things we're about to land something like €50-55M if all four moves go through.
It's really not inflated at all when you consider the amount of money the Saudi clubs are throwing at the players themselves, whether they're trying from Chelsea or elsewhere. You might have a point if they were actually offering tens of millions for each player but seemingly they're not.
What the flying feck are you even talking about?
Ronaldo's contract was mutually terminated in the month of November, he joined Saudi club a month later. He was not out problem anymore.
Ronaldo was literally clubless for awhile. It was Piers Morgan who bailed us out, not the Saudis.
You're skint.
First time I've ever seen anyone use Transfermarkt as a reliable yardstick for player value. Mendy seems like the only player there that you'd be confident of receiving a fee for in a normal market
It's not 'reliable' by any means but provides a ballpark figure. When a player does well the estimation goes up, when they play like shit it goes down.
The club have paid a total of €115M for Mendy, Koulibaly, Ziyech and Aubameyang which was deemed 'fair market value' not so long ago. Apart from Mendy's first season at the club they've all been disappointing signings so it's no surprise the values have gone down significantly but for the most part they're by no means useless players even if they're not good enough for us?
For Mendy I'm 100% sure we could find a buyer from a European club at a similar value to whatever the Saudis will pay for him, and his wages aren't big either (£50-60K/wk) for most clubs in the European top leagues. Here it's probably a case of the player himself fancying a big pay day, having been a late bloomer and still on modest wages even after reaching the top.
With Ziyech it was just a few months ago we were a delayed fax away from shipping him off to PSG, albeit only on a loan deal with a buy option, but still it says a lot that a club of PSG's level were seriously interested in him to begin with and really pissed the deal went sideways. I'm having a really hard time believing there wouldn't be any kind of market for him if not for the saudis.
For Aubameyang there have been numerous top clubs after him all year (Barca, Milan, Atletico etc.) and there was an offer from MLS too so there's definitely a market for him as well. If we were to grant him a free transfer there would be clubs lining up to take him off our hands so is it totally out of the question there could be someone willing to pay a €4-5M fee for him too? For a free transfer the competition for the player's signature would probably mean higher wages anyway so paying a small fee would be a good way for someone to knock out the competition.
The only one who'd be really problematic to shift is Koulibaly. To break even with him would demand approximately a €25-30M fee. The fee itself probably isn't that obscene for a lot of clubs but the biggest obstacle here is the wages.
Is this SirReginald's new account? Talking shite all the same.
UEFA soon bring in emergency rule to stop inflated price for players. . Who define the market value nobody knows.
. Who define the market value nobody knows.You’re getting £25m for Koulibaly. We have no idea about the other fees yet as they haven’t been publicised.
Ronaldo to Arab club rumour started even before last season started. You are lucky his wages were wiped out because of Saudi club offer.
Good one. European body to bring in a rule which would have no impact on the transfer fees paid by clubs based in the Middle East.UEFA soon bring in emergency rule to stop inflated price for players.
You didn't get much sleep last night right?
This makes me wonder if that whole fiasco of "wrong documents being sent" on transfer deadline day for Ziyech's transfer to PSG may be more than a mere coincidence. The plan could be to ship him to Saudi all along. This club is something else, really.
So now we sabotaged a 6 month loan deal based on a protracted transfer after said loan expired.
This one is my favourite.
Not sure if this post is naivety, bias or both.
You don't think owners meet up to discuss transfers? Todd has been jet-setting all over Europe since he took over.
People are using the fact that he met them as some sort of wild conspiracy, when this happens all the time.
Stay in school kids
Best comeback on this subject since Neville's on have i got news for you.
Boehly just gets more and more cringy. I am sure these are smart money moves for the club, but man he has such a poor image, and it's getting poorer.
Not sure owners jets off to offer a 6 for 7 special?
Offering their players to a league is abnormal, it’s nonsense to argue otherwise
Trafficking?
What in the name of God are you talking about? You are a confused human being
There were numerous reports from reliable Chelsea sources (and maybe even something official from the club, I don’t remember) that Boehly‘s day to day role at the club was going to be significantly reduced now that the sporting directors and scouting team are in place.
The picture you’d get reading this thread is that this American owner who knows pretty much nothing about football is sitting around choosing targets and handling every minute happening within the club which is kinda funny. Did he go mad and do some highly silly things last summer before the structure was in place? Yes. But now we have 2 sporting directors in and they’re handling the football matters now. As evidenced by them being at the fore with todays Nkunku announcement rather than Boehly who was for last summer’s transfers.
I doubt Boehly does anything other than approve money for transfers and work on the commercial side of things off the pitch. It’s apparently the co-owner Egbhali that’s more directly involved in transfer negotiations. But Boehly has been turned into this clueless, bumbling American clown by the English media and fans.
The picture you’d get reading this thread is that this American owner who knows pretty much nothing about football is sitting around choosing targets and handling every minute happening within the club which is kinda funny. Did he go mad and do some highly silly things last summer before the structure was in place? Yes. But now we have 2 sporting directors in and they’re handling the football matters now. As evidenced by them being at the fore with todays Nkunku announcement rather than Boehly who was for last summer’s transfers.
I doubt Boehly does anything other than approve money for transfers and work on the commercial side of things off the pitch. It’s apparently the co-owner Egbhali that’s more directly involved in transfer negotiations. But Boehly has been turned into this clueless, bumbling American clown by the English media and fans.
Wouldn't surprise me at this point if he's playing on it now to take any attention away from Eghbali and the recruitment team.
If so it's safe to say people are falling for it hook, line and sinker!
https://theathletic.com/4624201/2023/06/21/saudi-arabia-chelsea-funding/
An article some of the conspiracy theorists on here should maybe take a look at.
An article some of the conspiracy theorists on here should maybe take a look at.
UEFA soon bring in emergency rule to stop inflated price for players.
Market value is simple - it's the highest amount anyone is actually willing to pay for the player. The issue here isn't what the market value of the players are, it's whether the market is being corrupted and FFP circumvented by an investor being at both sides of the table.
Not that it seems very plausible that's the case. Good Athletic article linked above.
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https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...lsea-transfer-news-saudi-arabia-b1089148.html
Fee for Ziyech apparently £8M so we're still taking a £6M on the books loss and a total net loss of £26M for him. I thought the fees were supposed to be inflated for cheating purposes though?
Fee for Ziyech apparently £8M so we're still taking a £6M on the books loss and a total net loss of £26M for him. I thought the fees were supposed to be inflated for cheating purposes though?
Seeing how you could only get a loan move to PSG to move him away a few months ago I’d say 8m is outrageous.