It would be weird to be jealous about Chelsea, not sure why anyone would be.
Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)
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It would be weird to be jealous about Chelsea, not sure why anyone would be.
I definitely agree, no idea how Chelsea are able to sell so successfully given their position. All the buying clubs should be waiting til June 30th at 11:45pm for a final offer...
Moving players on high wages. Big clubs struggle with it.
Chelsea have found a nice loophole to that to be fair
You don't see how all the elements in the public domain regarding Clearlake and PIF amount to a conflict of interest?
You do know that CoI isn't in itself illegal right?
Again, explain these elements. Stop being vague and give your interpretation of what’s going on and why its a conflict of interest.
Killing it? You’re clearly bankrolled by the Saudis. You’re state funded (again) in disguise. I’m willing to bet this was the plan from the off because there’s no way anyone’s stupid enough to do the stuff Bohley was doing without a clear plan to rescue the situation later.
Laugh it up lad, there are clear links between Chelsea and their majority owner Clearlake Capital and Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund.
I know football fans will defend their club and players for the indefensible. We’ve seen it at Chelsea with Terry and Liverpool with Suarez. City with the cheating.
But at this stage for any Chelsea fan to reject the notion that the Saudis and Chelsea/Boehly have some form of arrangement, they must have some sort of brain disease.
The game is absolutely riddled with corruption and loophole jumping. Why is this so hard to believe.
But at this stage for any Chelsea fan to reject the notion that the Saudis and Chelsea/Boehly have some form of arrangement, they must have some sort of brain disease.
The game is absolutely riddled with corruption and loophole jumping. Why is this so hard to believe.
Standard Chelsea-fan-itus
Yes an arrangement for us to sell them players and for them to buy.
What a crime...
What a crime...
I'm laughing because most of the people making posts like your one were wishing us out of business just over a year ago.
Karma has well and truly done it's thing!
Koulibaly is the only one, and he's only been there a year, not long enough for his stock to plummet. Everyone else is still young and in their prime, and I'd imagine would do better after moving away (Havertz, Mount).
Even if Chelsea isn't "funded" by PIF and by that I mean if there is no premeditated arrangement. There is definitely potential for trickery when investment funds are involved because they can move money around easily without their portfolio and Football's economy isn't paritcularly big for these gigantic funds.
PS: I'm talking about Clearlake Capital.
PS: I'm talking about Clearlake Capital.
I really don't understand what you're asking. A conflict of interest is a... conflict of interest. What is public knowledge about PIF having funds in Clearlake, who are the owners of Chelsea, who are selling players they don't want to clubs owned by PIF, is the most self explanatory case of conflict of interest. I don't know what you're getting so defensive about, and I'm not being vague, as there's nothing to be vague about.
I’m only half joking so don’t get too excited, and I’m also pretty sure you’ll find it hard to move the likes of Mudryk on to the Saudi league when he turns out to be a busted flush. So I’m more than sure karma will come back around again at some point.
Chelsea are the kings of finding loopholes and exploiting the system. From abusing the loan system to handing out 8 year contracts. No doubt they're up to something else again now
With only the players sold at this stage of the transfer window Chelsea has reduced the wage bill by £80M a year. That is rather significant.
Nothing defensive, I only wanted a simple question answered which you skirted. So you’re insinuating that because of the links, PIF and the Saudi clubs are acting in Chelsea’s best interests by purchasing these players and Chelsea shouldn’t be allowed to sell to them? Is this correct?
Are those goalposts that I hear getting picked up?!
Chelsea fans really are absolute morons.
If you made a list of the wrong sides of the arguments they always find themselves in then it would make shocking reading
It's incredible, they literally never have sensible and unbiased views of anything their club does
I just read that PIF has billions of dollars invested into Walmart and Stan Kroenke the Arsenal owner is married to one of the people behind Walmart.
By the same logic being used on Chelsea wouldn't Arsenal have a big conflict of interest with the Saudis too?
Says someone who thought AWB was/is better than James, Tuchel was the worst appointment Chelsea could have made and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was going to win the league.
No ones on the wrong side of history more than you.
Yeah, this. While nobody here can present concrete evidence of some shady pact between them, it takes a lot of delusion to actually insist that the possibility doesn't even exist. These transfers are HIGHLY suspicious at first glance, and while it's within the realm of possibility that there really was nothing underhanded about it and it all just happens to be a very odd coincidence, it's very irrational to say that it's wrong even to suspect it. While not all smoke is the result of a fire, there's a whole lot of smoke here, and nobody has verified that nothing's on fire. For that reason, it isn't sensible to insist that it's all perfectly above-board. That very much remains to be seen, and neither side of the argument can claim that they're demonstrably right.
The sheer rabid hostility of Chelsea fans in this thread suggests they know deep down that the possibility of something dodgy is strong. They're compensating for that with frothing aggression towards the implication. Look at the hatred in their posts.
I just read that PIF has billions of dollars invested into Walmart and Stan Kroenke the Arsenal owner is married to one of the people behind Walmart.
By the same logic being used on Chelsea wouldn't Arsenal have a big conflict of interest with the Saudis too?
It would if the Saudis were flinging truckloads of cash into transfers that massively favor Arsenal. But they haven't. And Stan Kroenke didn't recently go to Saudi Arabia to negotiate who-knows-what immediately before a sudden spree of transfers that uncannily seem as though they help the selling club far more than the buyer. Let's stick to what has actually been happening instead of silly whataboutism, shall we?
It is pretty wild to see these levels of indignation while at the very moment Qatar is leading the bid to buy Man Utd.
Fans will say it is a private bid, but that is silly. Jassim’s bid is bankrolled by his father who gets his wealth from the Qatar government. Somehow Clearlake managing £750m in assets for PIF is outrageous even though PIF is invested in just about every large capital fund group.
Crazy logic.
Fans will say it is a private bid, but that is silly. Jassim’s bid is bankrolled by his father who gets his wealth from the Qatar government. Somehow Clearlake managing £750m in assets for PIF is outrageous even though PIF is invested in just about every large capital fund group.
Crazy logic.
The bid and potential Qatari takeover of United is not dodgy in itself. It isn't aimed at breaching any regulations. There isn't some element of it that hints at suspicious activities. I'm not even sure why you're making this argument, besides aimless whataboutism and deflection. What has the fact that a Qatari fund is bidding on MUFC got to do with the possibility (though unproven, certainly) that the PIF is helping Chelsea circumvent the FFP regulations by giving them deals that have little to no financial merit for the buyer and happen to be a veritable lottery win for the seller?
Seems a lot to me like you're just going "LALALALA YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET BOUGHT BY THE QATARI SO SHUT UP!"
That is "crazy logic." The so-called crazy logic that you describe in your post can pretty much be summed up as thus: 'your club is likely to be bought by a Qatari fund, so it shouldn't even be possible for you to suspect that there could be a dodgy deal between the Saudis and Chelsea.' And that's beyond idiotic. It doesn't even contain the first trace of a rational argument, it's pure nonsense and kind of funny actually.
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I mean yes, granted we got a bit lucky with the Kouli deal but if you think they'd have been no suitors for Ziyech at £8m I'll have some of what you're smoking.
There's every chance without the Saudi’s he'd have ended up with you lot.
Ding Ding Ding Ding DingI just read that PIF has billions of dollars invested into Walmart and Stan Kroenke the Arsenal owner is married to one of the people behind Walmart.
By the same logic being used on Chelsea wouldn't Arsenal have a big conflict of interest with the Saudis too?
Saudi coming for players to build their league and Chelsea having quite a few players on high wages that need to be moved is timing. It all happened at the right time. It does help that our owner has a good business relationship with the people doing the buying.
I doubt the same people crying foul will be unhappy when the transfer money starts rolling in for the sportswashing for Qatar.
A lot of United fans are being salty looking at Chelseas ability to flog their players for high fees. Meanwhile United cant sell a dildo to an Onlyfans content creator.
Is there something fishy between Boehly and the Saudis ? Probably. Will anything be done about it ? Most likely not.
Is there something fishy between Boehly and the Saudis ? Probably. Will anything be done about it ? Most likely not.
I agree with some of this but I don’t necessarily think Chelsea fans are claiming its all “perfectly above board” as you put it. There is definitely a relationship between Boehly (not necessarily Clearlake) and the Saudi’s. Whether that be through meetings, intermediaries or agents his relationship has been well documented over the past month by journos.
I think its completely within the realm of possibility that Boehly has used this relationship to work out something so that the clubs who want our players buy them before the end of the month. The timing is too convenient for it not be likely. But I think to suggest things like these clubs only want our players because of a “link to Clearlake” is pretty far fetched bordering on delusion. The fella above who kept saying conflict of interest over and over I wanted to explain what he was getting at because clearly by a few things that have happened they are acting in their own interests, not Chelsea’s.
The fees that have been reported for the most part have not been inflated at all. I’m actually pretty annoyed about Ziyech as he’s a much better player than a measly £8m. The fees have also been consistent amongst other clubs they have been buying from (except Neves). They have nicked Kante off of us, who we offered a new contract and wanted to stay. Beyond doing us a favour by buying our players before the end of this month, I don’t see how (by the evidence we’ve seen so far) it points to anything majorly suspcious like many of you are suggesting.
Definitely luck, we have a number of high profile Muslim players that they have wanted. They also reportedly want Mahrez, Ndidi, now Partey and probably some others I’m missing.
And if wanting someone to explain their point so I can respond appropriately without putting words into their mouth = being a moron/rabid hostility then alright then.
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Was meant as a joke rather than anything serious, which I thought was pretty clear with the '
' but guess not.I'm not insinuating anything. I'm stating there is a clear conflict of interest. I've also said it's not breaching any rules. I don't know what you're struggling to comprehend.
I remember trying to chat with them about the sanctions topics at the beginning of the conflict last year, it was surreal. Imagine being so defensive about your ownership that has been acting like complete idiots for the past year. It's as if we took offence at people calling the Glazers bad owners.
Can't remember a thread with so many on my ignore list chiming in. One can only imagine the ridiculousness being spouted.
See my post above. It’s not a conflict of interest for me as their actions have both benefited us and hurt us, whilst their actions have also been consistent with multiple other clubs.
If you’re not going to look into whats happening and just say conflict of interest it doesn’t really mean much.