Boehly is going to ruin Chelsea (hopefully)

So you think getting in bed with an outside party to launder you money and /or bail you out if financial is somehow prudent?
What makes this great business?
Remember when Chelsea fans were adamant that PSGs claims a few weeks ago was bullshit as well?
Why am I asking so many questions?
I’m shocked there isn’t a moral debate happening right now between your fanbase by the way.

Moral and Chelsea cannot be in same sentence. Betting company shirt sponsor till Premier league ban date is the worse any decent club can do. Chelsea is not one.

Selling players to another league is magnitudes less than being a Qatar owned team and yet the majority of your fans are loudly cheering the sale.

What is the magnitude of being owned by Russia then.
 
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Selling players to another league is magnitudes less than being a Qatar owned team and yet the majority of your fans are loudly cheering the sale.

No we absolutely are not. Stop making shit up. Opposition fans are cheering more than we are because you have some desperate, pathetic need for reasons to slag us off. The club hasn't even been sold yet and you're already laughably eager to portray United fans as some sort of fiercely pro-Qatar rabble. It's so low and pathetic.

Most of us wish we didn't have an owner at all, but can do nothing about it. I have never heard one single fan express any sort of joy over the prospect of being sold to a middle eastern state.

And if we're to talk of the morality of club owners, yours was owned by (and owes everything to) one of Putin's lackeys until it was confiscated by the fecking government. The gall of you to start talking about how owners reflect on the club's moral fabric.
 
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Athleti s saul and inter s brazovic in talks with saudi clubs according to Fabrizio romano. :lol: .

As I said it was the start for them and easy and cheap to get players from Chelsea because we are looking to offload them and players wanted to go. As simple as that.
 
It is quite convenient how they've managed to get themselves out this hole of FFP with Saudi giving them just a blank cheque for their rejects..... why couldn't they just take our rejects :(
 
You're right that there is no legal agreement available signifying PIF investment directly into Chelsea. However, there are clear links between PIF and Boehly https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...di-arabia-pif-clearlake-capital-b2360204.html

But we can probably close our eyes and say that PIF and Boehly are completely independent of each other and these Saudi deals are just a matter of coincidence. Or we can live in the real world.

And this is exactly my worry if Qatar become our owners. Our fanbase, similar to Chelsea, will have to shut their senses and rely on the deniability afforded by loopholes, while knowing the whole truth

But you were in here saying PIF own a stake in Chelsea, which obviously a blatant lie. I can obviously see you’re outraged by this so you’re going to have to explain to me exactly what you think is going on here so I understand.

The link you posted barely mentions Chelsea despite being the wordy headline. It briefly mentions that Boehly’s company is doing business in Saudi Arabia. I presume what you’re saying is that plus PIF having some investments managed by Clearlake, which obviously predate the Chelsea takeover combined with Saudi clubs being interested in 3 Chelsea players is basically cheating?
 
But you were in here saying PIF own a stake in Chelsea, which obviously a blatant lie. I can obviously see you’re outraged by this so you’re going to have to explain to me exactly what you think is going on here so I understand.

The link you posted barely mentions Chelsea despite being the wordy headline. It briefly mentions that Boehly’s company is doing business in Saudi Arabia. I presume what you’re saying is that plus PIF having some investments managed by Clearlake, which obviously predate the Chelsea takeover combined with Saudi clubs being interested in 3 Chelsea players is basically cheating?
They are outrageous about anything Chelsea do. Remember they were bailed out by same saudi club Ronaldo size problem mid season not long ago. Oh yeah let's forget about it.:lol:
 
They are outrageous about anything Chelsea do. Remember they were bailed out by same saudi club Ronaldo size problem mid season not long ago. Oh yeah let's forget about it.:lol:

I mean I can understand the raised eyebrows and I acknowledge with PEs the water is a bit muddied, but obviously ‘ PIF own a stake in Chelsea’ can’t just stand unchallenged as a matter of fact statement when it’s just something a poster has made up himself.

Do I wish Boehly and Clearlake didn’t have this business association with Saudi Arabia? Yes. I’d prefer it if I didn’t have to wonder if there is anything more going on here than just pure coincidence.
 
They are outrageous about anything Chelsea do. Remember they were bailed out by same saudi club Ronaldo size problem mid season not long ago. Oh yeah let's forget about it.:lol:
United weren’t bailed out, Ronaldo was. He was still offering himself to Napoli etc when he left us.
 
They are outrageous about anything Chelsea do. Remember they were bailed out by same saudi club Ronaldo size problem mid season not long ago. Oh yeah let's forget about it.:lol:

Not sure what this means? We terminated Ronaldo's contract by mutual consent long before he signed with a Saudi club, so we weren't bailed out of anything.
 
And how many many months has he been out injured since then?

Seriously? You're rating a young lad who's made zero appearances for Chelsea over a guy who's made over 100 appearances for Chelsea and has been integral to you winning the Champions League? Getting strong "didn't fancy him anyway" vibes already :lol:

Are you ok?
Yes i am, Colwill is Reece James level of talent. Mount as an 8 i like but play him in the attack he's very meh.
I would rather keep him than sell him but he's replaceable.
 
But you were in here saying PIF own a stake in Chelsea, which obviously a blatant lie. I can obviously see you’re outraged by this so you’re going to have to explain to me exactly what you think is going on here so I understand.

The link you posted barely mentions Chelsea despite being the wordy headline. It briefly mentions that Boehly’s company is doing business in Saudi Arabia. I presume what you’re saying is that plus PIF having some investments managed by Clearlake, which obviously predate the Chelsea takeover combined with Saudi clubs being interested in 3 Chelsea players is basically cheating?

Regarding PIF stake in Chelsea, I've placed an edit in my original post too. It is a link between Boehly and PIF. If that is also something that you find untrue, then of course do point it out.

The fact that Boehly was cozying up in Saudi last week and suddenly inflated offers are turning up for ageing stars on massive contracts is all just a bit too convenient, isn't it? It is the same 'Sheikh Jassim is private Qatari businessman' argument that people on here use as well to bury their heads in the sand. However, we at least have a few members who do recognize it for what it is. There seems to be a blatant denial in the Chelsea fanbase.

They are outrageous about anything Chelsea do. Remember they were bailed out by same saudi club Ronaldo size problem mid season not long ago. Oh yeah let's forget about it.:lol:

What are you on? He had already left the club before he signed for Saudi. Whether he joined Wrexham or any Saudi club, we got feck all out of it.
 
Athleti s saul and inter s brazovic in talks with saudi clubs according to Fabrizio romano. :lol: .
Genuinely wouldn't shock me if some forget Saul isn't our player and go on a rant about it :lol:
 
Are you ok?
Yes i am, Colwill is Reece James level of talent. Mount as an 8 i like but play him in the attack he's very meh.
I would rather keep him than sell him but he's replaceable.
Mate I'm not the one saying that someone who's made zero appearances for the club is a better academy product than a 2 time POTY winner :lol: if someone posted that Charlie Mcnneill is a better academy product than Rashford then they would face similar ridicule.
It's good to see that you've already made peace with the fact that Mount is leaving his boyhood club, but try to keep the coping mechanisms grounded in reality.
 
Regarding PIF stake in Chelsea, I've placed an edit in my original post too. It is a link between Boehly and PIF. If that is also something that you find untrue, then of course do point it out.

The fact that Boehly was cozying up in Saudi last week and suddenly inflated offers are turning up for ageing stars on massive contracts is all just a bit too convenient, isn't it? It is the same 'Sheikh Jassim is private Qatari businessman' argument that people on here use as well to bury their heads in the sand. However, we at least have a few members who do recognize it for what it is. There seems to be a blatant denial in the Chelsea fanbase.



What are you on? He had already left the club before he signed for Saudi. Whether he joined Wrexham or any Saudi club, we got feck all out of it.
If you're following sports for moral reasons you've firmly picked the wrong one.
 
The fact that Boehly was cozying up in Saudi last week and suddenly inflated offers are turning up for ageing stars on massive contracts is all just a bit too convenient, isn't it?

Convenient? They had a meeting and a possible transfer (or transfers) followed.

How do you think transfers are sorted, fax machine? Of course they met up beforehand.
 
Convenient? They had a meeting and a possible transfer (or transfers) followed.

How do you think transfers are sorted, fax machine? Of course they met up beforehand.

Inflated offers being the operative term
 
At least you're honest
Unlike the people who moan about things like this less than a year after watching the last World Cup (or even worse, moaned about the World Cup while taking a paycheck).

If you want to virtue signal, football is not for you.
 
What figure have you heard for Ziyech?
None, but I assume that the reason people are concerned is because Ziyech basically holds no real value. If it’s a small fee then nobody can complain.
 
If last season is anything to go by Son is very much on the decline everybit as much as Kouli is.
He’s declining for sure but nowhere near as bad as Koulibaly. Son also holds greater commercial value.
 
Mate I'm not the one saying that someone who's made zero appearances for the club is a better academy product than a 2 time POTY winner :lol: if someone posted that Charlie Mcnneill is a better academy product than Rashford then they would face similar ridicule.
It's good to see that you've already made peace with the fact that Mount is leaving his boyhood club, but try to keep the coping mechanisms grounded in reality.
I How succesful his transfer is or isn't depends on whether his form of the last 18 months is his form or a Dele Alli esque drop.
 
Mate I'm not the one saying that someone who's made zero appearances for the club is a better academy product than a 2 time POTY winner :lol: if someone posted that Charlie Mcnneill is a better academy product than Rashford then they would face similar ridicule.
It's good to see that you've already made peace with the fact that Mount is leaving his boyhood club, but try to keep the coping mechanisms grounded in reality.

It's not his boyhood club, He didn't deserve his POTY last season either, T.Silva was robbed. If Reece James could stay fit he could of won it too.
Hes not better talent than Reece James so your point was still wrong. Once Colwill starts playing for us i will be proven right.
 
It's not his boyhood club, He didn't deserve his POTY last season either, T.Silva was robbed. If Reece James could stay fit he could of won it too.
Hes not better talent than Reece James so your point was still wrong. Once Colwill starts playing for us i will be proven right.
Mount was, by far, your best player for the second half of that season at least.
 
Mount was, by far, your best player for the second half of that season at least.

No he wasn't. most fans still have nightmares from his 2 performances in the cup finals VS Liverpool.
 
No he wasn't. most fans still have nightmares from his 2 performances in the cup finals VS Liverpool.
Course he was. I posted the stats on here earlier. He was the only man carrying your attack when everybody downed tools and your lot were telling us how understandable it was.
 
We're taking big losses on all of the transfers. Theres nothing inflated about any of the figures mentioned.

We're living in a world where Cucurella cost 60 odd mil and Antony cost 90. 20 odd mil for Ziyech or KK is about right.

A transfer fee can be a loss and it still be inflated. If we sell Maguire for 60 million, we'd be taking a loss. Wouldn't you characterize it as an inflated figure? Chelsea are desperate to offload Koulibaly and any transfer fee for him is a bonus.
 
Unlike the people who moan about things like this less than a year after watching the last World Cup (or even worse, moaned about the World Cup while taking a paycheck).

If you want to virtue signal, football is not for you.

Shutting my eyes isn't an approach I personally prefer to take. But to each their own.
 
I don't know why people bother with Chelsea fans, this is the fanbase that still sings the name of a genocide enabler.
 
I don't know why people bother with Chelsea fans, this is the fanbase that still sings the name of a genocide enabler.

President Xi, MBS?, President W Bush ?

Being Russian and knowing Putin makes you a genocide enabler?

Not even withstanding he's an Israel citizen who has donated hundreds of millions to anti genocide projects and other charities.

He's allegedly a "gangster", there's quite a big difference.