Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

feck me, at least it was only 25 seconds. I still want them back though.

Re the FFP being discussed further up: I think the point the bluemoon poster is making (or trying to, at least) is that getting those listed players sold would reduce their wagebill as well, which is something they really need to work on.

Not sure what to make of the stadium expansion really. With all the empty seats they've had this season there's certainly no need for it now, but I guess they're planning ahead. I'm guessing they're also looking to squeeze out any possible income to help coping with the FFP and the owner most likely won't care about whether he actually gets money back from the investment or not.
 
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=284485

Typical FA letting the rags get away with it but would Luis Suarez be walking away with no punishment? No chance.
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Notice he asks if Suarez would get away with it (he did recently get away with a punch in an international match, but never mind) rather than Tevez or Aguero. Tevez got away with it on the last day of the 2011/2012 season. Aguero got away with a two footed stamp. Roll the dice of bitterness again, bitches.
 
They seem to have given up by and large. Losing the league too much for most of them I think because 6months ago that thread would be 10 pages long now.

Must have a look on The Shed End to see if that's where they all went.
 
Judge Red said:
Notice he asks if Suarez would get away with it (he did recently get away with a punch in an international match, but never mind) rather than Tevez or Aguero. Tevez got away with it on the last day of the 2011/2012 season. Aguero got away with a two footed stamp. Roll the dice of bitterness again, bitches.
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Suarez has actually got away with violent conduct an incredible number of times.
 
I think the mad tinfoil hatters have finally found the bottom of the barrel.

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=284912

There's now a conspiracy between Manchester United and the FA to have as many of the club's players as possible playing in internationals at the expense of poor messrs Lescott and Barry.

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But, how many of Cities players should or could be in the England squad? From the five that finished against the Swiss, Hart, Lescott, Barry, Milner & Johnson, Hart and Milner played last night, Johnson has been sold and Lescott can't get a game for City regularly so why would he play for England.

The OP was so bad that he didn't even realise that Milner was playing at the end of the game. Does he really thing that Hodgson and the FA are so pro-United in the England camp that they would feck Rio over the whole JT debacle?

If you don't have good English players then you won't have a lot of English internationals.
 
100 said:
The forum with the lowest average IQ on the internet...surely?

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=285290
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You can laugh at RAWK, but Bluemoon is bitter and twisted to the bone. I'm inclined to believe that some of them would actually attempt to kill Fergie if they were to see him on the street! :lol:

''The biggest thing that pisses me off, other than him not passing away in the technical area on a cold rainy night while United are getting battered by us, is that he got away with it''.
 
"If he'd have carried on another couple more seasons and it perhaps had gone sour, with the team not matching Chelsea and our investments and faltering at the finish line a couple of times, he'd be remembered as a manager who had won it all but then in the face of new adversaries he had proven himself unable to compete and had to retire accepting that he wasn't good enough to beat them."


:lol::lol: - What about their investments last season, Sinclair, Rodwell etc
 
That's pretty fecking shocking stuff tbh. Like majorly retarded.

Even the few who disagree are sort of reluctantly doing so. If a thread of such insane spasticity was posted on most other football forums the OP would be laughed out of the place.
 
Those 'investments' must be the ones they sign for a squillion quid, and then can't get rid of them because of their gigantic wages. Wall Street must be so impressed.
 
They would never go to believe that he left mainly due to the fact that his sister in law passed away last year, and that he made this decision in December to keep his wife company now? Oh no, they want to put it down to him being so afraid of a City team who have lost their manager this year, have spent £60 million on two "good" players at best and lost the title by 11 points to us this year. Best part of this is that they won sweet feck all at the the end too.

Yeah, he left because he was afraid, I would have done the exact same :rolleyes:
 
Yeah at seventy-one years old, after twenty-six years in charge and just off the back of a league winning campaign he left because he was afraid of being beaten
 
:lol: How do human beings become like this?

But seriously, Ferguson must have felt that if he didn't leave this season things were headed down-hill. Nothing says 'this is the beginning of the end' like wrapping up the league with 5 games to go, finishing 11 points clear.
 
Just actually read through that thread properly now, and I've never been so disgusted at Bluemoon before. They are just so utterly disrespectful that I can do nothing but think how fecking retarded they are! This is the most successful British manager of all time, a man who took United out of the darkness and turned them into the most successful English team in the country. He's spent less in 5 seasons than City did in 2, and they go on about how we bought van Persie? They bought At Madrid's best player, Valencia's best player, one of the best strikers in the country in Tevez and they're having a go at Fergie buying one player who broke his golden rule? Just a bunch of idiots, I really hope the Arabs pull out of that club within 10 years and cause an implosion.
 
Brightonian said:
:lol: How do human beings become like this?

But seriously, Ferguson must have felt that if he didn't leave this season things were headed down-hill. Nothing says 'this is the beginning of the end' like wrapping up the league with 5 games to go, finishing 11 points clear.
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Winning a trophy after 35 years fecked most of them up.
 
Bluemoon are way, way more bitter than Rawk, it's not even close. I wonder why? You'd think it'd be Liverpool fans who'd be more bitter seeing as they're in a worse position and are the team SAF knocked off the perch.
 
The same nonsense was posted a lot on rawk as well but you normally had a couple of sane Liverpool posters disagreeing. The best you can get here is "he's not a coward but an egoist". jesus wept...
 
The disagreements tend to be filled with equally amazing lunacy though and tend to decrease in numbers on the next page. It's brilliant how most of their criticisms of us are things that City tend to be far more guilty of...

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However, there can be a case made that United simply glossed over cracks by signing RVP to simply outscore opponents, United have a real problem where their best players are 30 and over. A defense that needs sorting, a midfield that needs sifting through and adding to and the weakest widemen I've seen them have in the last twenty years. City were playing withing themselves, Chelsea in transition and changing manager mid-campaign, United simply got the job done by scraping through by hook or by crook. United beat who they had infront of them but speaking in a football sense it was a weaker domestic league imho. The gap between United and the elite of Europe is widening all the time. Ferguson knew full well Jose was going to Chelsea and knew City would right wrongs, be it in the transfer market and the face of the manager.
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If we scraped through by hook or by crook, where exactly does that put the rest?

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He knew he wasn't getting enough money, and with the squad he had he knew full well that he couldn't compete, so gave the poison chalice to his mate, at very short notice.

It wasn't planned, 2 weeks earlier he was staying, then suddenly he was off. He'd had a meeting with their execs, and they'd refused to fund what he needed.
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I think people are just underrating our youngsters coming through as well...City don't seem to value a strong English core which might explain it.
 
100 said:
I think people are just underrating our youngsters coming through as well...City don't seem to value a strong English core which might explain it.
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They are underrating our youngsters but I don't think the value of a strong English core has anything to do with it. Having an English core isn't an advantage in itself; having a good core no matter where the players come from is a lot better.
 
Most of the thread is "SAF retired because we got that A-rab money!" They aren't praising their club's organization or structure, just the Sheikh's oil money.

They seem to be under the impression that United won't spend any money from now on and will ultimately fail because of the debt, Glazers, etc. It's a tired argument. We've spent less than City since 1992(net and gross) and won 12 more titles...
 
They're so bitter about the signing of RvP, as are most opposition fans to be honest. They just didn't expect us to do it, it was a signing completely out of the blue and one you would never expect us to make. Over the past decade he has been by far the biggest signing we have made considering we've rarely bought an already established world class player for big money.
 
Cheesy said:
They are underrating our youngsters but I don't think the value of a strong English core has anything to do with it. Having an English core isn't an advantage in itself; having a good core no matter where the players come from is a lot better.
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Perhaps the wrong word, it just tends to be much less likely for someone from England to up sticks and move; probably better to include all of Britain and Ireland in that, although Rooney will probably undermine that with his thoughts of leaving. It's certainly helped Chelsea through Cole, Terry and Lampard. United through Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand, Rooney etc and we're in a transition to hopefully Jones, Smalling, Evans, Cleverley and Zaha. Arsenal are focusing on it with signing new contracts for most of their youngsters.
 
That thread :lol: You could actually write several pages tearing some of the "statements" apart - so much wrong information it's incredible, and everyone just goes along with it.

I love that everyone is saying he fecked off because he knew it was too big a challenge. Have they already forgotten that he overcame the last team they supported (Chelsea, in case there was any doubt) after they looked way more scary than City has so far?

There's plenty of words you can use to describe Fergie, and I'd even agree to some of the negative ones (bully, sore loser etc.). But calling him a coward after he took up the challenge of carrying the Glazers, saw off Mourinho's first Chelsea side and beat monopoly-City to last years title is just insanely stupid. If he was a coward he would've fecked off a long time ago - after wining the treble (how do you top that?), when the Glazers took over and he'd realise money was going to be tight, after Mourinho destroyed the PL. But no, he kept on going. The man is 71 years old ffs and people call him a coward because he retires :lol:
 
100 said:
Perhaps the wrong word, it just tends to be much less likely for someone from England to up sticks and move; probably better to include all of Britain and Ireland in that, although Rooney will probably undermine that with his thoughts of leaving. It's certainly helped Chelsea through Cole, Terry and Lampard. United through Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand, Rooney etc and we're in a transition to hopefully Jones, Smalling, Evans, Cleverley and Zaha. Arsenal are focusing on it with signing new contracts for most of their youngsters.
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I understand that English players may move around a lot but that doesn't mean you don't want a spine of foreign players if they're as good. You listed English players but I wouldn't really say that they ever made up our spine. Scholes and Giggs arguably were at points, but by the time Rooney was our established front man they weren't playing often enough to be considered as a part of our spine. In fact, at the moment our main spine is probably De Gea, Vidic, Carrick and Van Persie, and only one of those is English. With Chelsea and for our future team as well you're kind of just listing homegrown players as opposed to giving actual spines.
 
'A midfield that needs sifting through and adding to and the weakest widemen I've seen them have in the last twenty years.'

Wouldn't Disagree with that to be fair.
 
Bearing in mind that their idea of Brave is Joe Hart so perhaps the perception of Bravery and Cowardice over there is a little skewed!
 
Red Pavan said:
'A midfield that needs sifting through and adding to and the weakest widemen I've seen them have in the last twenty years.'

Wouldn't Disagree with that to be fair.
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You took the only line in that quote describing the state of our club that was in any way accurate and left out all the shite spewed about the rest.
 
Irwynwastheking said:
You took the only line in that quote describing the state of our club that was in any way accurate and left out all the shite spewed about the rest.
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Exactly, if we extracted all the nonsense from that thread and put it in here, we would only skip a total of 3 posts in it! There were probably 3 sensible posts in that entire thread, and the rest targeted Fergie's lack of spending, his fear of City and his papering over the cracks by buying RvP. Have they forgotten the guy's over 70 fecking years old!
 
Fergie running away from a challenge? They're saying what they always wanted to happen. It didn't happen and it's only natural that they can't handle the truth. The truth is Sir Alex got the last laugh. That hurts. He retired as their beloved manager got the sack.

The RVP signing was a telling one for Fergie, in his entire time at United he had never really spent so much on a player of that age. It was a clear indication that his focus had gone from building a squad for the long term to gaining instant success.
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They were after RVP too. What was their excuse?
 
It was always going to be a act of cowardice for a lot of them. Bunch of idiots, they forget he was 72
 
Judge Red said:
The RVP signing was a telling one for Fergie, in his entire time at United he had never really spent so much on a player of that age. It was a clear indication that his focus had gone from building a squad for the long term to gaining instant success.
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They were after RVP too. What was their excuse?
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They also seemingly forgot Berbatov, who cost more. Veron was only a few years younger as well. Yorke was about RvP's age when he signed for what was a high fee back then. Plenty of examples but who cares about facts when they don't support your "argument", eh?
 
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