God I can't wait until the arabs get bored and feck off out of there and most of the bitters can go back to supporting Stockport County
Bluemoon goes into Meltdown
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Was talking to a City fan in the local last night. He had had a few, and was going slightly over the top in trying to look hardcore, saying he doesnt like the money and all that, and that Citeh just aren't the same anymore, the soul has been stolen from the club etc. he was actually bemoaning too much success, I shit you not. The following is a direct quote...
City Fan said:
I'd have respect for that TBH. Who wants to support a fake club?
The City fans I meet a lot aren't like that at all. There's four whom I meet every day at work and they're bemoaning not signing the likes of Falcao and Cavani, not just glad to be rid of the days when Jon Macken was playing up front for them. I think football fans in general are a fickle lot, but I notice this with City fans more than anyone. Maybe because I deal with them on a more regular basis than any other team's supporters.
Well they are being nice to their leaving legend Carlos Tevez, mostly blaming Mancini for his problems at the club. Wonder how they would feel about Tevez had he not come back and helped them claim the title. What if he had stayed away and their title hopes would have been dashed? Would he still be a hero to them?
Probably not.
Isco to Madrid, Cavani to Chelsea, Tevez to Juve, and if Lewandowski stays in Germany then this could be another beautiful summer to keep an eye on City 
Criteria for a 'City Legend': doesn't spend the entire season on a golfing jolly. Agrees to come on as a substitute once in every two times of asking.
They are not really saying that the poison dwarf is a City Legend?
FFS that is a smack in the mouth to the real Legends that City have had.
All he is is a nasty shit, the PL is well rid of him.
FFS that is a smack in the mouth to the real Legends that City have had.
All he is is a nasty shit, the PL is well rid of him.
still makes me laugh how you can support a player that just walked out for 4 months and came back and won the title. Could you imagine the uproar on here if Rooney just went to.. London and chilled out for 5 months.
I think the fecker might head off to Liverpool for his R&R, not that that makes matters any better
If we don't get 6 signings we'll not compete with Spurs and Arsenal. So we're going to end up in 6th if we're lucky then.
To be fair, this fan has some dignity. Winning trophy is important but it's not a bad idea for them to be second best in Manchester. It's a comfortable position and no one expect them to do any better than that, so the pressure is always off.
Guys, signing more players means you're instantly going to win. Sheesh.
How many players have they signed now, and for how much ?
Fernandinho 30 million, Navas 14.5 million, Negredo 16 million + 4.2 in addons, and Jovetic 27 million + 3 million in addons. All is almost 100 million in pounds.
And has been linked with 30m winger Slavio (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-for-benfica-star-eduardo-salvio-8718645.html)
EDIT: corrected as Wittman said.
Salvio is a winger actually
Kinell, so how does this all jive with FFP ? I thought City were already under scrutiny for this from their previous splurge.
FFP is just to keep small teams without sugar daddy in check. Just look at Monaco and you will know how little these sugar daddy clubs have to fear the FFP.
I'm seen a claim that even with the new players, City have reduced their wage bill by somewhere around £400,000 a week since January (mostly by dumping Tevez I guess). If that's anywhere near accurate then that can only help them with FFP, at least allow them to argue that they are making progress towards break-even. Not sure how that squares with spending over £90m on transfer fees so far, with more on the cards.
They've canned off Tevez, Balotelli, K.Toure and Maicon in that time, and brought in Fernandinho and Navas (the Negredo signing was only officially confirmed about an hour ago so I'd imagine that claim won't take that into account).
It's not a particularly unreasonable claim but then it won't be counting whatever they'll be paying Jovetic and the new centre back that they're no doubt after.
It's not a particularly unreasonable claim but then it won't be counting whatever they'll be paying Jovetic and the new centre back that they're no doubt after.
feck me. Not saying there are not very good players, but they all seem to be a little over priced??
I think there's a trade-off there for City. As we've seen again and again with the likes of Tevez and Toure, if they want the really top-band players they have to attract them with massive wages. If they get these second-tier players, they have to overpay on the fee (because Navas, for example, was good enough for Sevilla to effectively ask for a top-class fee, even if the player isn't quite in that bracket in real terms). But the players are more on City's actual level, and therefore they won't need such silly wages.
So i'd wager that what City overpay on the fees, they save on the reasonable wages.
Yeah, but the players they are buying are not really strengthening them so significantly that they are going to blow the competition away which is what you would expect if we spent 100million.
I don't think buying top stars is always the way to blow the competition away. City already have plenty of those, and almost to a man they had poor seasons last year. What they've done now is given themselves an incredibly formidable squad, with real depth of talent. And that's the best way to prevent your top players either getting demotivated or burnt out, and to ensure it doesn't cost you if they do.
This is a classic City splurge, but it's a more intelligent one than their early 'buy all the top players' binges.
Is that a really strong squad, for every player coming in there's one going out and they still have a lot of dead wood. I know if United was buying players in their late 20's for 30m I'd want it to be top top talent.
Yeah. They'd be better just buy Ribbery and Robben for 100m (which is not far from possible), and their team would look way more amazing.
I know they will have to pay the Sheik Tax on all incoming players so they will pay over the odds, but if we spend 100m this summer I'd expect a Ronnie or a Bale along with a Fabregas. If that was to happen then I wouldn't be a bit worried about City's buys.
Obviously, because United is a bigger club than City and can get top players without being robbed. But as I said, City's top players have all come at extortionate prices with extortionate wages. They have them now, and they're at the club - what they needed was to fill some holes. If they get Salvio as well as Navas then the wings look much better off than they did. Fernandinho means they don't have to play Barry any more and also finally gives them some decent back-up to Toure, the lack of which has hurt them for a couple of seasons now. They've cut the 'overpaid cnuts' from their strikeforce, which shouldn't do them too much harm given that they still have Aguero and Dzeko there, and they've added Negredo, again, to give them a really good third option.
Yes, they still have dead wood. But they won't need to play any of it nearly as much as they did last season.
Basically my point is that I think you're treating City as if they're the same as United, whereas in fact they have a very different set of constraints when it comes to transfers. Money is less of a concern, but actually getting top players there and keeping them is, given that abroad they're not regarded as a big club, which hasn't been helped by their shocking CL performances or by us walking all over them in the league last season.
Yup. I think they could get Bale and Navas for that sort of money (and wages, I presume), and so improve their first team and squad.
Not at all. As I said in that post you quoted they will have to pay over the odds because teams will hold out for more money. They still have the same ultimate aim and that's to build a title winning squad and I just don't think they have improved enough for the investment gone in particularly if we manage to get some of our main targets.
Maybe, maybe. Don't you think they have enough 'star' players now though. Ignore the fact that they under-performed badly last season, and the likes of Kompany, Toure, Silva and Aguero are really top quality. There's always a risk of going a bit too FM and overloading the top bracket without adding sufficient strength in the supporting cast. Bringing Fernandinho in, for example, makes him first choice ahead of Barry. That means Barry is back-up (which is where he should be at a top club, really), and thus there's less chance of needing to play the likes of Rodwell and Garcia too much. That's important, because they're not really good enough at that level.
Squad players are just as important a part of a league-winning side as star players. I think they're right to recognise that they've got the latter already, and it's the former where they're weak.
You may have a point, but I think with losing such quality upfront they haven't replaced it and I'm just not seeing where all the goals are going to come from. Looking forward to seeing how they line up in the new year and to see if I'm wrong/
Fernandinho - £30 million
Navas - £15 million
Negredo - £20 million
Jovetic - £30 million
Total - £95 million
Andy Carroll - £35 million
Luis Suarez - £25 million
Jordan Henderson - £20 million
Stewart Downing - £20 million
Total - £100 million
Still makes me laugh.
Shite. Now my boss was looking funny at me for laughing hard.Up front would be one of the areas of least concern for me. They've lost Tevez and Balotelli, but they had a serious overload of players there. Plus bear in mind that Balotelli was never really consistently good for them the way he has been at times since leaving.
I don't see any problem at all for them getting enough goals. Dzeko was absolutely lethal last season, and their refusal to make him a starter was mind-boggling. Aguero had a poor season but on form he's one of the league's top strikers. Aguero, Dzeko and Jovetic is comfortably the best set of forwards in the league apart from our own.