Gaming Bloodborne (PS4)

b82REZ said:
That's how From Soft make their games. Very little will be explained, you'll be expected to piece things together yourself. Reading item descriptions is always useful and will reveal the lore.

If you're still struggling you can grind and level up for a while now.
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Unfortunately there arent nearly as many items in the game to help you piece it together, because enemies drop bullets and blood not their armor which would have a description on it. Think of how many enemy armors were in demons souls - dark souls 2 and how many descriptions that could be read. Not the case this time...

Which isnt helpful, because imo the game makes you want to know whats really going on and the lore far far more than any of the Souls games. In those games I wasn't that interested in the story even after I started to read about it. But with this? I'm reading as many lore posts as possible on the web trying to understand it all, because its a much more interesting story in my opinion.
 
Solius said:
Did I make a mistake getting the Kirkhammer? The sword seems to take more hits to kill than my Saw Cleaver and the hammer while powerful is cumbersome and leaves me susceptible to hits.
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Depends on your build, its a strength scaling weapon so you probably need 40-50 strength to get the most out of it. It can hit very hard I know that much, but its slow so its a good thing the sword is a faster option
 
Code-CX said:
I do have one more question regarding weapons. I currently have Ludwig's blade at +5. Under weapon description there are letters like C B B, etc.. I suppose they mean the weapon's strength is connected to upgrading certain skills points?
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Thats the scaling. When you look at your status and look at the right handed weapon, the first value is how much damage the weapon does based on what level you have it, for example hunter's axe, hunter's axe +1, hunter's axe +2 etc. Then next to it will be a plus sign and a value. Thats the physical damage bonus based on the stats of your character

If you have a weapon that has like a C on the arm icon it'll mean strength scaling. So if one character uses the weapon with 15 strength, he'll get a lot less on the plus value than another character who has 40 strength

Some weapons will have like, C skill and C strength (when levelled up fully, as you level them the scaling gets a better value) and if you're sure you want to use a weapon like that it'll be best to evenly split your stats in skill and strength rather than fully into one of them, as at a certain high value you get diminishing returns. I think its something like you get most value in a stat up to 25, then 25 to 50 you get a bit less value for each point and then at 50+ into a stat you will get barely anything at all
 
Nearly beat Father Gascoigne and decided to go a different way to level up a bit, got annihilated by a giant pig.
 
Oh I know, I was just exploring and grinding.
 
Played this far longer than I care to admit, and I still haven't beat Father Gascoigne. Only thing left to kill in the first area, unless I'm a complete fool and missed a section of it.

It's a really interesting experience so far. I both hate it and love it at the same time. Usually a game this hard and unforgiving would make me throw a hissy and never play it again after the first handful of deaths, but for some reason I can't stop playing it, because it's a really well-made game, and if I die it's usually because I feck up and not because the game is unfair and broken. Have had a couple of glitches where the camera locked in one direction and I couldn't move sideways or backwards, but other than that the dying is all because of me. Not sure if I agree with the adulation it's gotten from critics yet, though. After I got over the initial frustration and started opening shortcuts, it got so much better, so I expect it to pick up once I get further into it. That being said, thus far it's been more of a massive challenge that I'm too stubborn to put away than a masterpiece of a game.
 
My battle with Father Gascoigne, he had killed me the previous 8 attempts. Check out my panic throwing the Molotovs at the camera when it got down to crunch time :lol:

 
Earthquake said:
Wouldn't even mind all the dying only for the loading.
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Agreed, but it depends on where I am and how many Echoes I've stocked up. If I have more than 5000 Echoes getting them back is going to take a while I will sit and fester in my own rage while staring at the loading screen for what feels like five minutes.

I also get really pissed off at the locked animations. There's no way to save yourself if you get ganged up on and start taking successive hits, because the animation for getting hit won't end before the next enemy attacks, meaning you're just stuck there. That multiple pound thing that the brick ogres do is a real pain in the arse when it comes to that. It's my fault for getting caught by it, but having to helplessly watch as I get pummelled to a pulp isn't exactly fun. The same applies to attack animations. Once you've committed to an attack there's no way back, and you'll just have to take the damage if you miss your target.

Apparently this is a common thing for Souls games, though. This is my first ever time playing a Souls game, even if it's not a Souls game by name, so it's taken a lot of practice to know when and when not to attack.
 
Red Stone said:
Agreed, but it depends on where I am and how many Echoes I've stocked up. If I have more than 5000 Echoes getting them back is going to take a while I will sit and fester in my own rage while staring at the loading screen for what feels like five minutes.

I also get really pissed off at the locked animations. There's no way to save yourself if you get ganged up on and start taking successive hits, because the animation for getting hit won't end before the next enemy attacks, meaning you're just stuck there. That multiple pound thing that the brick ogres do is a real pain in the arse when it comes to that. It's my fault for getting caught by it, but having to helplessly watch as I get pummelled to a pulp isn't exactly fun. The same applies to attack animations. Once you've committed to an attack there's no way back, and you'll just have to take the damage if you miss your target.

Apparently this is a common thing for Souls games, though. This is my first ever time playing a Souls game, even if it's not a Souls game by name, so it's taken a lot of practice to know when and when not to attack.
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You just need to understand that you can bait attacks from enemies and punish. The brick move is a great example. Yes if you get hit by it its annoying and you lose plenty of health.

But whats the other side of that attack? Its great for parrying. You can parry the multihit brick move at any point. Also parrying should be Plan A when it comes to all of the big enemies similar to the brick one with various weapons. Some are easier to parry than others but they all have at least 1 move that, if you're looking for it and they use the move you get the parry.
 
I just beat the cleric beast, I'm pretty sure the only real options are to go to father gascoigne or the sewers, neither of which I particularly want to do right now. I already know how to get to gascoigne but I don't think I'm going to be able to beat him any time soon and the sewers are just scary. Ran in to a massive pig and immediately found a ladder to climb up and get away.

I've been collecting blood echoes and leveling up, I'm an 18 now. Still can't find any other weapons though, I just have the hunter's axe for the right hand and a pistol and torch for the left hand. Does fortifying the weapon make them stronger I assume?
 
gza the genius said:
I just beat the cleric beast, I'm pretty sure the only real options are to go to father gascoigne or the sewers, neither of which I particularly want to do right now. I already know how to get to gascoigne but I don't think I'm going to be able to beat him any time soon and the sewers are just scary. Ran in to a massive pig and immediately found a ladder to climb up and get away.

I've been collecting blood echoes and leveling up, I'm an 18 now. Still can't find any other weapons though, I just have the hunter's axe for the right hand and a pistol and torch for the left hand. Does fortifying the weapon make them stronger I assume?
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It does and it's worth doing, other than beating bosses/npcs who have hunters badges and then buying weapons from the messenger merchant, you will probably not find any superior weapons for a while. The starting items are good enough to take you at least half way through the game if you upgrade them and get the right stats which they scale with. Then check back at the merchant each time you get a new badge and it should unlock a new weapon each time, sometimes a gun as well

This one isnt like other souls games where you can just go find a better weapon right off the bat, the starting weapons are fairly good and the first couple of weapons you can pick up are underwhelming, very situational weapons. The ones you can buy later from the badges might feel like an upgrade because they might do more damage, but they'll probably have a lot less range than the starting weapons so in the end its a bit of a sideways move. I think almost every weapon is good, but some have bigger drawbacks than others
 
Just beat Vicar Amelia, what an amazing introduction video, you guys are in for a treat, took me six attempts..
Each time I got her to about 2/3 health and she one shot me, the after fight video was interesting too, also what the hell, after I beat her and returned, went down a path and this guy with a lightning mace started chasing me and killed me D:
 
Beat Gazza and have unlocked a couple more lanterns. The enemies are getting bigger and faster. I don't like that.
 
I've not been on much last couple of days. I was taken to the Unseen Village yesterday but left ASAP as it was well hard and I didn't think I was a high enough level.

Where am I supposed to be heading now? I think I have a bit more exploration to do at Cathedral Ward so will probably just mooch round there.
 
I got to the Blood Starved Beast last night, got his life halfway down first time and then a bit more the second, I reckon he's toast when I jump back on later.
 
I'm currently in Old Yarnham working my way towards the gatling gun hunter on top of the tower. I got to him once and it found out that it was next to suicide going head to head with him. Will try it again when I'm more motivated but new tactic is to see if he falls of the tower trying to chase me or something.
 
b82REZ said:
I've not been on much last couple of days. I was taken to the Unseen Village yesterday but left ASAP as it was well hard and I didn't think I was a high enough level.

Where am I supposed to be heading now? I think I have a bit more exploration to do at Cathedral Ward so will probably just mooch round there.
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Did you get killed by one of those giant dudes and wake up in a cell in Unseen Village? Cos that happened to me. I ran into a boss battle down there and left. Absolutely horrible place, everything there and kill you in one, it's horrifying and I won't be going back until necessary.

Anyway, drop back down the Healing Chruch Workshop, when you get on the streets, take a left, then follow it around until you find a lift.
 
siw2007 said:
I'm currently in Old Yarnham working my way towards the gatling gun hunter on top of the tower. I got to him once and it found out that it was next to suicide going head to head with him. Will try it again when I'm more motivated but new tactic is to see if he falls of the tower trying to chase me or something.
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Killing the hunter near the bottom of Gatling gun guy's tower means you've got a really easy shortcut to the tower, so you don't have to clear out all those mobs. Shooting Gatling man off the edge works.
 
This game is pretty creepy, I feel genuie tension if only niot to die when I have echoes, some of the quieter sections are really quiet, the Unseen Village music gave me the chills haha
 
hmm thats the area Im in, are you supposed to take out the Tower gunner before or after the Blood Starved Beast or does it not really matter?


That feckin hooded Demon thats hidden in Old Yarnham beside one of the big wolf creatures in a foggy alley scared the shite out of me last night, was sizing up the wolf gettin ready to attack then all you hear is that piercing shreik booming through my headphones. cnut :D
 
feck Father Gascoigne I cant seem to beat the fecker I must have tried like 20 times or even more. I wont sleep tonight unless I beat him.
 
Hamadovich86 said:
feck Father Gascoigne I cant seem to beat the fecker I must have tried like 20 times or even more. I wont sleep tonight unless I beat him.
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You can cheese his human form, in his area, as you go in , on the right there is a big tombstone/set of tombstones, if you get(and keep) those between you two you should be able to connect with attacks in relative safety. You can also cheese his beast form. Get plenty of molotovs. Run up the stairs, heal, throw a molotov or two, jump down to the roof and to the ground, wait for him to jump down, maybe get an attack in, a molotov maybe, leg it back up stairs, rinse, repeat, dead. Also tiny music box helps stun him.
 
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siw2007 said:
I'm currently in Old Yarnham working my way towards the gatling gun hunter on top of the tower. I got to him once and it found out that it was next to suicide going head to head with him. Will try it again when I'm more motivated but new tactic is to see if he falls of the tower trying to chase me or something.
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Its funny because one time I really did just suicide, couldnt stop my attack after he
fell off the roof, and I followed him to death :D
 
Hamadovich86 said:
feck Father Gascoigne I cant seem to beat the fecker I must have tried like 20 times or even more. I wont sleep tonight unless I beat him.
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When fighting him, try to keep a set of tombstones between you and himself and switch to your lengthy form of your blade and you should be able to whack him while avoiding his blade, just roll away when he finishes a combo because he will use his shotgun after.
When in beast mode, he will smash the tombstones so this won't work. However in the far right corner of the map there is a tree and a statue next to each other and if you put this directly between you and him then he'll get trapped between and just flail about because he can't reach you or jump over you. Just whack him until he dies in this case.
 
Lu Tze said:
Killing the hunter near the bottom of Gatling gun guy's tower means you've got a really easy shortcut to the tower, so you don't have to clear out all those mobs. Shooting Gatling man off the edge works.
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Cool, does look like a straight run to tower after the hunter, but the first time I tried this area, I panicked while getting shot at so I ran off edge and got mobbed by the hunter and several beasts while succumbing to the gunfire, is there and easier way to do this part? Also will the blunderbuss work for knocking him off the edge?
 
Thanks lads, is it cheating to get tips from you and watch videos of how others beat him? :(

Wanted to not get help with this game but god this guy is getting under my skin. I can get him to his beast mode but I panic and he combos the shit out of me. I'm confident I can beat him but I just need to calm the feck down. Will get back at it within an hour or so.
 
Hamadovich86 said:
Thanks lads, is it cheating to get tips from you and watch videos of how others beat him? :(

Wanted to not get help with this game but god this guy is getting under my skin. I can get him to his beast mode but I panic and he combos the shit out of me. I'm confident I can beat him but I just need to calm the feck down. Will get back at it within an hour or so.
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No, not at all. What's the point of having a forum anyway if we are just going to shoot down whoever asks for help. I always watch videos on how to do stuff in this game anyway, how else would I have found that incredibly 'creative' way of beating Gascoine. I'm not great at games like this (I live by work is for frustration, games for relaxation) so any help I can get I will take.
 
Ekeke said:
Its funny because one time I really did just suicide, couldnt stop my attack after he
fell off the roof, and I followed him to death :D
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I managed to shoot him off the roof, when I went down the item he dropped was glitched out of bounds so I had to do it again. Was such a pain. :lol:
 
Just getting started. It's extremely frustrating and very addictive at the same time. I'm a bit confused, though, am I supposed to be?

1. Is it a legitimate, non-cheating way of playing to farm for Blood Echoes and then run back to the lamp post?

2. And how about running past enemies? The giant mob by the bonfire seems unbeatable so I just took a run for it.

3. Should you buy stuff or just use all your Echoes to upgrade and then loot for items? I've heard there's armor in the sewers.
 
Well that went f*cking horribly. Couldn't dodge a thing.
 
Jev said:
Just getting started. It's extremely frustrating and very addictive at the same time. I'm a bit confused, though, am I supposed to be?

1. Is it a legitimate, non-cheating way of playing to farm for Blood Echoes and then run back to the lamp post?

2. And how about running past enemies? The giant mob by the bonfire seems unbeatable so I just took a run for it.

3. Should you buy stuff or just use all your Echoes to upgrade and then loot for items? I've heard there's armor in the sewers.
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You can play how you like, that's the beauty of Souls games, I'd recommend baiting and killing mobs one at a time, and exploring as much as you can, collecting items etc. Don't buy blood vials or bullets, you can get them easily enough fighting enemies. Save your echoes to level up and equipment you like. The more you explore, you'll unlock shortcuts, which make it easier to get to bosses and move on to newer areas, it seems confusing, but the designers of this game are experts at leading you the right way eventually, figuring it out is the fun
 
F*ck this. When he goes beast mode it's ridiculous. Once you dodge all the shitting combos you're too far away to attack him, and when you go to attack him he just starts another combo again.
 
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