Blaise Matuidi
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I would rather stick with Herrera and Sneiderlin. Sneiderlin was the energetic deep lying playmaker at Southampton who really made their midfield click. Playing in a rigid system clearly did not suit him well at all. We should give him another chance before splashing the cash on another guy.
Pogba, Herrera, Sneiderlin, Carrick, and Bastian gives us many options to choose from.
Pogba, Herrera, Sneiderlin, Carrick, and Bastian gives us many options to choose from.
Cup competitions are obviously a little different. I'm not saying that they can't play together, just that you're definitely limiting the capacities of one because you're naturally playing one of these players out of position by having the other.
If we sign pogba and matuidi then what would happen to felliani?
Matuid doesn't play on the right, never.
Schweinsteiger was a weak point
Nah he wasn't, he was nowhere near some of us expected him to be but he was still quite easily our best midfielder last year when played.
Schweinsteiger was our best midfielder! 'Quite easily!! '
I must be on a Bayern forum, circa 2010.
I must be on a Bayern forum, circa 2010.
I wish I could see it. I saw an overweight waddling around the pitch in slow motion. It reminded me of when it was time for robbo to move on
I'm sorry but Schweinsteiger was awful for us. If he wasn't misplacing the passes he played that were more than 5 yards long, he was shooting with the accuracy of a stormtrooper, and if he wasn't doing those he was usually gasping for his breath back. I mean, it speaks volumes that Rooney outperformed him in midfield.
I like Schweini and, much like with Ibra this season, I was looking forward to such a legend in our colours yet not really expecting much out of him. Credit to Schweini though, I wasn't expecting much and he still disappointed.
One thing I will give him credit for was his coolness under pressure. We've been crying out for years for a midfielder who can keep a cool head when pressured and Basti was brilliant at that. If we could combine Basti's coolness under pressure and Carrick's technique we'd have our very Busquets.
I like Schweini and, much like with Ibra this season, I was looking forward to such a legend in our colours yet not really expecting much out of him. Credit to Schweini though, I wasn't expecting much and he still disappointed.
One thing I will give him credit for was his coolness under pressure. We've been crying out for years for a midfielder who can keep a cool head when pressured and Basti was brilliant at that. If we could combine Basti's coolness under pressure and Carrick's technique we'd have our very Busquets.
In general yes, but he did show glimpses of his game when he was fit and well rested. In those moments, he was easily the best midfielder we have.
Sadly, this transfer happened too late for us. It's clear he is past his best but if managed well he can still give us 15-20 top performances in a season. We shouldn't expect anything more from him.
The best thing to do regarding Schneiderlin, Herrera and Schweinsteiger is give them a chance under Mourinho.
Nearly all of our players looked like headless chickens playing in Van Gaal's system. It sapped their confidence after a while.
Schneiderlin was immense whenever I saw him for Southampton. Then he came to us and got 'Van Gaaled'.
No need to buy an entire new team. Jose will love Schneiderlin in my opinion.
Nearly all of our players looked like headless chickens playing in Van Gaal's system. It sapped their confidence after a while.
Schneiderlin was immense whenever I saw him for Southampton. Then he came to us and got 'Van Gaaled'.
No need to buy an entire new team. Jose will love Schneiderlin in my opinion.
I think he'll be in trouble. Though I think all the central midfielders bar Carrick, on account of his new deal, will be looking over their shoulder.
If (probably a big if) we sign Pogba and Matuidi, I could perhaps see two of Fellaini, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin or Herrera being shown the exit door.
He was absolutely awful, come on now.
Sold, gone, finito, hopefully he'll be gone if we only sign one of those two.
Yes you could argue he has his uses, but they are uses I don't want us to have use next season.
Fellaini doesn't fit the profile of a Mourinho midfielder, but he does fit the profile of a Mourinho striker. He's still an extremely capable player when used the right way.
Schweinsteiger was fine. We looked more composed when he was on the pitch.
And the right way is not as a striker. Ever.
Agree completely.
Agreed, the best CM play we saw last year was from Carrick when we switched back to the 4-3-3 and gave him the extra protection he needs these days.
He looked composed on the ball - of course he did, he's class. Problem is, he also looked overweight, slow and couldn't last anywhere near 90 mins
Big Sam and Pulis have got cash on the hip this summer, I'm sure they'd fancy him.
Sell fellaini buy matuidi. Also buy pogba drop Rooney to the bench sell mata ?. I think blaise would be just a replacement for one of the midfielder who goes. I am all for sigjing him. When his contract was up a couple of years ago and he was close to leaving i wanted us to sign him then too. We can have an all french midfield and that would be great.
I haven't seen many league games from him, but I quesiton whether he's the best player we can get for that price. I know Kante is different sort of player, but would he not work better in a midfield 3?
Kante/Schneiderlin
Pogba Schweinstiger/Herrera
I'm not sure Matuidi has it anymore. I know he has his supporters, but many fans feel at 29 he's not churning out many top level performances. I wonder whether there is any point in persuing him.
Kante/Schneiderlin
Pogba Schweinstiger/Herrera
I'm not sure Matuidi has it anymore. I know he has his supporters, but many fans feel at 29 he's not churning out many top level performances. I wonder whether there is any point in persuing him.
When Mourinho says he wants specialist players, you should understand the underlying message 'Fellaini is not the type of player I need'.
The message is clear imho.
The message is clear imho.
Yep, probably applies to a couple of others in this squad too. Nervous times for the 'utility' players van Gaal was a fan of.
Seems like a typical Jose midfielder, high energy, if it means getting rid of Fellaini great, I just don't see a role for him here under Jose, he slows everything down and keeps elbowing and fouling, Schweinsteiger is also under the microscope, looks unfit and not mobile enough to do a job in a Jose midfield so there is defo scope for this signing.
Did everyone just miss Schweinsteiger's last game? We've gone from a bunch of fans obsessed with possession and tempo to strength and water carriers. He didn't have a great season but he was injured a lot and the majority of our midfield was crap.
When fit, he was the best midfielder.
If true, to me Matuidi and Pogba means 433. Matuidi main strengths are his ability to overload the left wing and press very high, he isn't a DM. So since Mourinho knows a thing or two about football, I don't see him sign a player and use him in a role that doesn't exploits his abilities.
If we fail to sign Pogba, I hope this guy will come. I always liked him and wanted to see him at United much earlier, but I think he is still good enough and can produce at least three or four years (one contract, actually) of high quality performances. I think the deal could be possible with PSG, but I don't really know if he is interested in joining United.
I'm sure Schneiderlin will be very good next season! No need to buy
Thought Schweinsteiger looked pretty decent during the initial stages of last season before the injuries struck. At times we seemed to lose any semblance of control in midfield as soon as he when he went off the pitch. He was underwhelming over the course of the season though, and there's no denying it.
Regarding his dynamism and work-rate, I don't think we will see the peak Schweinsteiger of 2009-2013, obviously, but I don't think he's completely lost his legs either - his display against Pool last season was called Keane-esque by quite a few if I'm not wrong. Maybe the mounting injuries means he is losing it but I still think he has another season or two in him and who better than Mourinho to reinvigorate him and bring out the best in him. Equally, I can see Mourinho ditching him for a more dynamic midfielder, so I've got no clue how Mourinho will deal with him.
Matuidi would be a nice signing and would inject some serious graft and drive into our midfield but I would prefer Schneiderlin to be given another shot.
Regarding his dynamism and work-rate, I don't think we will see the peak Schweinsteiger of 2009-2013, obviously, but I don't think he's completely lost his legs either - his display against Pool last season was called Keane-esque by quite a few if I'm not wrong. Maybe the mounting injuries means he is losing it but I still think he has another season or two in him and who better than Mourinho to reinvigorate him and bring out the best in him. Equally, I can see Mourinho ditching him for a more dynamic midfielder, so I've got no clue how Mourinho will deal with him.
Matuidi would be a nice signing and would inject some serious graft and drive into our midfield but I would prefer Schneiderlin to be given another shot.
They don't bring the same thing to the table and they can play together in a midfield three.
I quite fancy adding Messi to that list.
We'd be unstoppable!
In fairness, Rooney (and Memphis), have been good against Europa League (and lower level) clubs.
Their problems have been against the better sides.
I'd quite fancy using Rooney in the EL and also League Cup.
But against EPL opposition, these guys need to watch those games on the telly, at home
If we do buy Matuidi and Pogs i think we should let go Fellaini and Schneiderlin and keep Bastian. Bastian is way too talented and could be vital for european games. He will have runners infront of him if we play 433 and will be able to pick a pass from deep. Carrick is only gonna be here one more year and i think basti will be Vital for us when Carrick goes.
That would leave us with Carrick, Schweinsteiger , Herrera, Pogs and Matuidi. I think thats more than enough Especially if we see TFM's future to be in Midfield
That would leave us with Carrick, Schweinsteiger , Herrera, Pogs and Matuidi. I think thats more than enough Especially if we see TFM's future to be in Midfield
He'd fulfill his destiny as an MMA fighter. Then, in new role, you might be even able to cheer him on for once.
There will be deadwood clear-out.
Regardless of the instructions he was given, as you pointed out he was injured for most of it, as feared and expected, and when he was "fit" he looked sweaty and immobile, he constantly looks like he is conserving himself physically.
Maybe but I believe that we need more of a creative midfielder than a defensive one with Blind, Schneiderlin to some extent and TFM hopefully
No need to sell either of them bar Fellaini IMO. If we sign Pogba and Matuidi, it surely means a midfield three. Schneiderlin, Pogba and Matuidi to start, Carrick, Schweinsteiger and Herrera as their backups. Then the season after that, one or two of Carrick/Schweinsteiger leaves and Pereira/Mensah get their positions.
What's going on? We all want to buy a 29 years cm. We can't see that this policy of buying players in their late 20s (and even older, as it happens),is setting us back.
Just look at the age of the players Real Madrid sign, and how they've forged a settled team over the years. Look at the age of the players Atletico mostly brings in. That's why they're superior to Manchester United. They are smarter.
We didn't give game time to Pogba who was good enough, though you wouldn't have gleaned that from reading this forum at the time. Mensah isn't up to it, he's clearly better RB than Darmian even though it's not his natural position. No, according to this forum he needs a loan to the championship. There he can show us he's good enough for Manchester United.
Schweinsteiger on the other hand is a beast last season and vital player for years to come.
The football club is going backwards fast. How low do we want to go?
Valdes, Schweinsteiger, Falcao, diMaria et al. Looking for a ready made team is stupid. It won't win us trophies, not even in the short term.
Just look at the age of the players Real Madrid sign, and how they've forged a settled team over the years. Look at the age of the players Atletico mostly brings in. That's why they're superior to Manchester United. They are smarter.
We didn't give game time to Pogba who was good enough, though you wouldn't have gleaned that from reading this forum at the time. Mensah isn't up to it, he's clearly better RB than Darmian even though it's not his natural position. No, according to this forum he needs a loan to the championship. There he can show us he's good enough for Manchester United.
Schweinsteiger on the other hand is a beast last season and vital player for years to come.
The football club is going backwards fast. How low do we want to go?
Valdes, Schweinsteiger, Falcao, diMaria et al. Looking for a ready made team is stupid. It won't win us trophies, not even in the short term.