Blaise Matuidi

In France, let's say you only have 2 reliable sources of information regarding PSG: L équipe & Le Parisien.

Matuidi has to prepare a game against Germany: so he can't be involved in negociations.

IMHO, it means Raiola is creating an artificial buzz to make things happen because he hasn't denied the 'so-called meeting with United'.

The meeting and medical stories are from bad sources, the good ones only said that United were interested. People are mixing the sources.
 
Di Marzio's Pogba story probably makes this possible transfer rumour a "last resort" option. When Jose spoke about his "4th target" i think it's all but confirmed that he's targeting pogba. I wouldn't mind Matuidi as a back up, but hopefully Pogba is coming home.
 
I don't think Herrera is a playmaker, he's fine doing short 1-2's in the final 3rd and working from there, but I am meaning a proper CM that sits deeper and sees the field and can orchestrate the tempo of the team, like Carrick or Scholes did for us, we need one of those next to the water carrier options, for me Herrera is screwed if we go 4-2-3-1.

The players were playing with him all last season so they must know how spent he is, and his influence shouldn't extend too far as most of these players are fairly new to United. I agree though that it will have to be done gradually, as the media alone will be all over Jose if he drops Rooney immediately.

Actually Herrera is perfect for that attacking midfield role. If you watching him at Bilbao he always made great defense splitting passes. Since Jose will want his attacking midfielder to track back and keep the middle of the pitch compact, I think Herrera would work really well with his ability to tackle and intercept. Last season the few times he was played as that forward of the midfield 3, he managed to win some great balls high up the pitch and create some counter opportunities. He'll have plenty of those under Mourinho.
 
You can't exactly find another Pogba in Watford
Surely 25m EUR should stop us from buying both if Mourinho wants them both. Would be a pretty good fit both of them in our midfield.
They're similar players for KKK club members...
They are even different in height :)

Box to Box powerhouse.
with completely different attributes and qualities and would compliment each other nicely.

Also Luckhurst to me is a bit of a WUM in Palmeri mode.
 


I understand this.

Pogba is more of an attacking midfielder than a box-to-box midfielder like Matuidi. That being said, the Premier League is pretty open. I do not think Pogba would find it hard to play in a midfield two in England. Yaya Toure was a very good English league #8 for a number of years. Its only in Europe where Yaya's lack of defensive interest has been exposed. Still, in the tightest games, Mourinho may push Pogba forward like he did with Cesc at Chelsea.

Matuidi would be more of a Khedira or Essien type midfielder. Arguably, Matuidi is better suited to the general Mourinho template than Pogba. Its just Pogba is so good that Mourinho would change his tactics a bit to accommodate him.

I guess the only question this leaves in my mind is: Why did we not make an effort to sign Grzegorz Krychowiak?
 
Had a great game. Tactically covered a lot of important space, area at the right time, forcing Germany to go wide. Great drive to support France counter attack.
 
Man Utd given permission to discuss personal terms with Blaise Matuidi

Paris Saint-Germain midfielder Blaise Matuidi is close to leaving the French champions this summer.

According to latest reports, Manchester United are looking to sign the 29 year old defensive midfielder and have been given permission to open talks regarding personal terms with the player and his representatives.

Although there is no mention of a fee being agreed, the fact that United have been allowed to discuss terms with the player means that the Premier League giants have definitely agreed to PSG’s demands. It is highly unlikely that any club would allow a player to discuss personal terms with another club without agreeing a fee for him first.

Mourinho is looking to add some defensive steel to his midfield and Matuidi would be the perfect addition. The PSG star is extremely good at breaking up the play and his athleticism and combative style of play will add much needed presence to Manchester United’s midfield as well.

The report adds that Jose Mourinho wants Matuidi to replace Bastian Schweinstieger. The German signed for United last summer and has failed to make an impact because of his defensive weaknesses and his injury issues.

Furthermore, Matuidi is expected to cost between £20-30million and the player will soon fly to Manchester to continue the talks in person.

Manchester United have already signed Ibrahimovic, Bailly and Mkhitaryan so far. Matuidi could well be their fourth signing if the reports are to be believed.



http://soccerlens.com/man-utd-given...s-personal-terms-with-blaise-matuidi/196140/?
 
That article is from the Telegraph, who have taken it from L’Equipe, but there's nothing on L’Equipe's website.
 
If we can't get Pogba, I hope we try to sign Saul. I'm not against Matuidi, but IMO he should't be our plan B.
They are totally different types of player so Matuidi being a back up for Pogba makes no sense.
 
If we sign Pogba and Matuidi then I think Rooneyydays as a first team player are over. It would mean we are definitely playing 433. Rooney won't get in the team ahead of Ibra and Rashford.
 
If we sign Pogba and Matuidi then I think Rooneyydays as a first team player are over. It would mean we are definitely playing 433. Rooney won't get in the team ahead of Ibra and Rashford.
It would also limit Schneiderlin to a squad player seeing as he can't play as the deepest midfielder.
 
It would also limit Schneiderlin to a squad player seeing as he can't play as the deepest midfielder.

Mate, our goal is to win as a team and not put the career of any one player, ahead of the aims of the team.
Quite frankly, of what I saw of Morgan last season (he was invisible in many games, at times I did not even realise he was on the pitch), he is not MUFC quality. For a 5th place team he is appropriate.
Of course under a new manager, he may play better, but if we are targeting league wins, based on what I saw last season, he is not good enough to be a main stay, in a EPL title winning team.
 
Matuidi ---Schweinsteiger--Pogba would be a great midfield trio.

Matuidi doing the running, Schweinsteiger/Carrick the playmaking in a deeper role with Pogba box to box and his edge in the attacking third.

Micky -- Martial as wide forwards, stretching up and providing space and Ibra as a finisher and dropping in to free space.

That's basically all weak spots from last year covered bar RB(where I think Darmian will improve a lot under Mourinho).
 
If we sign Pogba and Matuidi then I think Rooneyydays as a first team player are over. It would mean we are definitely playing 433. Rooney won't get in the team ahead of Ibra and Rashford.

Bringing solely Pogba might have same effect, cause Paul is best playing as nr 10. It's becoming sink or swim situation for Rooney in midst of a growing storm.
 
Bringing solely Pogba might have same effect, cause Paul is best playing as nr 10. It's becoming sink or swim situation for Rooney in midst of a growing storm.
There's an option Jose moving Pogba to #8 and delegate playmaking role to him with Matuidi as a #6 thus freeing space for Rooney as a #10. I'm not so fond of that tho.
 
There's an option Jose moving Pogba to #8 and delegate playmaking role to him with Matuidi as a #6 thus freeing space for Rooney as a #10. I'm not so fond of that tho.

I don't know, I think it's quite conceivable for one season as Rooney is eased out. Pogba and France have generally looked better as the Euro tournament has progressed, without Kante in the side. Pogba can play and produce from deep, especially in a counter attacking team.
 
I think it's Pogba or Matuidi, not both. Makes sense to keep an active interest if the deal with the player/Juve goes south.
 
There's an option Jose moving Pogba to #8 and delegate playmaking role to him with Matuidi as a #6 thus freeing space for Rooney as a #10. I'm not so fond of that tho.

A drowning Wayne will clutch at a straw. With incoming Europa League and preseason games Jose will get chances to experiment with our squad, but I don't think that Rooney will pass those tests.
 
Mate, our goal is to win as a team and not put the career of any one player, ahead of the aims of the team.
Quite frankly, of what I saw of Morgan last season (he was invisible in many games, at times I did not even realise he was on the pitch), he is not MUFC quality. For a 5th place team he is appropriate.
Of course under a new manager, he may play better, but if we are targeting league wins, based on what I saw last season, he is not good enough to be a main stay, in a EPL title winning team.
You assumed I was implying that was a bad thing haha. I'm perfectly fine with Schneiderlin being dropped if he doesn't improve. I was never particularly fond of him anyway. We're in agreement here, I just wanted to point out that potentially half of the outfield players in our first XI could be new additions.
 
Ibrahimovic
Martial--------------------Mkhitaryan
Pogba---Matuidi
Schweinsteiger
Shaw Bailly Smalling Darmian
De Gea
Would be serious title contenders.
 
If we sign Pogba and Matuidi then I think Rooneyydays as a first team player are over. It would mean we are definitely playing 433. Rooney won't get in the team ahead of Ibra and Rashford.

Schneiderlin/Carrick-Matuidi/BFS
----------------Pogba/Herrera---------------

That's some fantastic options depending on the match. Carrick and BFS will be gone by next summer just in time for TFM and Perreira to slot in. Send Rooney to China for £60m.
 


If this is true could Mourinho be planning for something like this.
Schneiderlin Matuidi
Mkhitaryan Pogba Martial
Zlatan​
 
Unless Pogba is the number 10 signing Matuidi too would make little sense. They'd both occupy the left side of midfield in a deeper role or a 4-3-3 which would clash and render one slightly less potent out of position. A midfield two of Matuidi and Schneiderlin is sorely lacking in passing ability too. Much rather play Carrick over the latter.
 
Unless Pogba is the number 10 signing Matuidi too would make little sense. They'd both occupy the left side of midfield in a deeper role or a 4-3-3 which would clash and render one slightly less potent out of position. A midfield two of Matuidi and Schneiderlin is sorely lacking in passing ability too. Much rather play Carrick over the latter.
They played together the other night and Pogba wasn't a 10 that game.