Bernardo Silva | Bouhafsi - 70m Euros, 5 year contract. Going to City CONFIRMED

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I must be the only one that doesn't want him.

Looks like another "inside number 10" and we already have a bunch of those in Mata, Mkhi, Pereira, Januzaj, etc.

We need proper pacey wingers like Giggs and Kanchelskis.
I might be quite biased as I'm a huge fan of Bernardo for a while now, but I think he's already comfortably better than all mentioned players, Januzaj should be gone and Pereira is not the same kind of player. And he has everything to be much better than he is now.
I think Silva might be the best Portugal produced since Ronaldo.
 
We have Mata and Mikhi who are similar innit ?

Would rather Mbappé and Fabinho from Monaco tbf.

Mata is similar to Silva, but Mkhitaryan is more direct and less reliable in possession.

I do think Mourinho's track record of liking powerful players (apart from Ozil, who he did rate) does suggest Mbappe or Fabinho (or Bakayoko or Mendy for that matter) might appeal more to him.

If we did sign Silva and Griezmann, I could see us adding a DM and playing:

-----------------Rashford(Martial)-------------
---Mkhitaryan(Lingard)---Griezmann(Mata)
-----Pogba(Herrera)------Silva(Herrera, Fellaini)
------------------DM(Herrera, Carrick)----------

and just playing Herrera in bigger games with whichever front starter Mourinho is mad at getting knocked to the bench. Still lots of starts for Martial, Mata and Herrera in that situation.

Obviously it would be simple enough to play 4-2-3-1 with Silva moving right and Griezmann playing as the 10 or vice versa.
 
Wouldn't mind signing him at all. In fact I hope we are in for him, but personally my preference would be Mbappe. We can't sign them all unfortunately.
I would like to revisit the idea of buying the whole of the Monaco club!
 
I must be the only one that doesn't want him.

Looks like another "inside number 10" and we already have a bunch of those in Mata, Mkhi, Pereira, Januzaj, etc.

We need proper pacey wingers like Giggs and Kanchelskis.


You're not alone:

Can't see why we need him. Calling bs on this one.

Reminds me a lot more of David Silva actually. But again, he's more of a No 10 isn't he ? We need a fast RW and Silva isn't fast. But he's definitely a great talent though. Him and Rafa Silva are great talents. I prefer Rafa Silva and playing him in midfield.

He's obviously talented but still a project and very lightweight. Man Utd probably needs a more reliable player at the moment and I think he would fare better in less physical leagues.

Monaco would probably be willing to sell for a decent price.

He reminds me of Mata with abit more pace. He will suit playing down the middle rather than out on the wing. Again, I don't think we need him.

Seems very lightweight, almost like the juan mata at valencia who would take on players and had some pace. Don't think we need him.

An attacking midfielder playing out wide? No thanks. We have Mkhi and Mata.

We need genuine wide forwards. A player in the vein of Martial and Hazard. Those that can beat players with not only skill but also pace and physicality.

Good player, but wouldn't have him over Mata.

Better dribbler than Mata, but nowhere near as clinical in the final third.

I also think if we're going to get a wide man, we need a direct player, i.e. Martial.

Don't rate him, I'm probably the only one here though. He would be decent as a number 10 but we have plenty of options there, hopefully we're not in for him.
 
Hes a jorge mendes client, linking players he wants to sell to us is just his SOP.

That said, player has beautiful technique, pity he doesnt have alot of acceleration or pace. Can still be a very useful david silva type player. Would love to have him, but probably low on our priorities, unless griezmann is off or mata is on his way out.
 
I must be the only one that doesn't want him.

Looks like another "inside number 10" and we already have a bunch of those in Mata, Mkhi, Pereira, Januzaj, etc.

We need proper pacey wingers like Giggs and Kanchelskis.

This.
 
There is a reason plenty of playmakers play on the wing nowadays, proper top wingers are a dying breed. I couldnt name you one gettable top class winger we could get. I would take Bernardo any day and play him on the wing over a relatively brainless pace merchant like Lucas for example.
 
I must be the only one that doesn't want him.

Looks like another "inside number 10" and we already have a bunch of those in Mata, Mkhi, Pereira, Januzaj, etc.

We need proper pacey wingers like Giggs and Kanchelskis.
Would be nice if you could suggest 'proper pacey wingers' who actually play instead of past players.

Do not mention Douglas Costa, Lucas, Felipe Anderson, Coman, Willian or Bale.
 
There is a reason plenty of playmakers play on the wing nowadays, proper top wingers are a dying breed. I couldnt name you one gettable top class winger we could get. I would take Bernardo any day and play him on the wing over a relatively brainless pace merchant like Lucas for example.

And it's not as if he was slow.
 
Would be nice if you could suggest 'proper pacey wingers' who actually play instead of past players.

Do not mention Douglas Costa, Lucas, Felipe Anderson, Coman, Willian or Bale.

Felipe Anderson would be the only player form that list that would interest me. The others are not that good or not gettable.
 
And it's not as if he was slow.

Watch him closely, he doesnt have much acceleration. Thats why he isnt played further forward. He can wrong foot the first defender easily but he often cant get away from him cleanly. If he had pace he would be scary good. Close to a certain little argentinian.
 
I must be the only one that doesn't want him.

Looks like another "inside number 10" and we already have a bunch of those in Mata, Mkhi, Pereira, Januzaj, etc.

We need proper pacey wingers like Giggs and Kanchelskis.

Pace is seemingly the only thing that matters to anyone these days.
 
He's a playmaker, superb talent from what I've seen. Don't think he is slow as some are suggesting either. Debatable whether he is the right player for United at the moment but can't knock the guys talent, that looks obvious to me.
 
Would be a great signing because he is quality, but obviously if you look at "what we need", then no thats not him. Neither is it griezmann though. What we "need" is a reliable centerback to partner Bailly, basically fullbacks on both sides since Valencia is aging and we have no more then decent left back, we need a holding midfielder who can play every game and ideally partner pogba, because as good as herrera is, we need a 3rd mid in there with them 2. Finally, we need a striker and proper, quality wide players. A pacey right winger, proper winger, would be a huge plus and would bring a lot of balance to the team. Bernardo silva could play out there but as a floating playmaker, which is fine, but again putting off bringing in a winger. Just like griezmann would be class, but still leave us needing a striker.

Basically sign a younger giggs or someone for the right wing, and then a proper #9, and we wont need either silva or griezmann. Sign griezmann and silva and we are still unbalanced. Not that I would complain because it would improve us loads, but it would require a lot of changing around to get it to work.
 
Watch him closely, he doesnt have much acceleration. Thats why he isnt played further forward. He can wrong foot the first defender easily but he often cant get away from him cleanly. If he had pace he would be scary good. Close to a certain little argentinian.

Yeah, I don't know Bernardo Silva.
 
Would be a great signing because he is quality, but obviously if you look at "what we need", then no thats not him. Neither is it griezmann though. What we "need" is a reliable centerback to partner Bailly, basically fullbacks on both sides since Valencia is aging and we have no more then decent left back, we need a holding midfielder who can play every game and ideally partner pogba, because as good as herrera is, we need a 3rd mid in there with them 2. Finally, we need a striker and proper, quality wide players. A pacey right winger, proper winger, would be a huge plus and would bring a lot of balance to the team. Bernardo silva could play out there but as a floating playmaker, which is fine, but again putting off bringing in a winger. Just like griezmann would be class, but still leave us needing a striker.

Basically sign a younger giggs or someone for the right wing, and then a proper #9, and we wont need either silva or griezmann. Sign griezmann and silva and we are still unbalanced. Not that I would complain because it would improve us loads, but it would require a lot of changing around to get it to work.

Agree with a lot of what you posted, I doubt we are after both Griezmann and Silva. If we fail to get Griezmann then Silva might be bought with a more out and out striker like Bellotti/Lukaku.
 
Pace is seemingly the only thing that matters to anyone these days.

Pace makes everything easier and covers many flaws. With the way teams set up now, without pace, its easy to get crowded out and any advantage is lost quickly.
 
Would be a great signing because he is quality, but obviously if you look at "what we need", then no thats not him. Neither is it griezmann though. What we "need" is a reliable centerback to partner Bailly, basically fullbacks on both sides since Valencia is aging and we have no more then decent left back, we need a holding midfielder who can play every game and ideally partner pogba, because as good as herrera is, we need a 3rd mid in there with them 2. Finally, we need a striker and proper, quality wide players. A pacey right winger, proper winger, would be a huge plus and would bring a lot of balance to the team. Bernardo silva could play out there but as a floating playmaker, which is fine, but again putting off bringing in a winger. Just like griezmann would be class, but still leave us needing a striker.

Basically sign a younger giggs or someone for the right wing, and then a proper #9, and we wont need either silva or griezmann. Sign griezmann and silva and we are still unbalanced. Not that I would complain because it would improve us loads, but it would require a lot of changing around to get it to work.

So basically a whole new team then? when you factor in De Gea seems likely to be off.
 
Silva is fast but a bit of a light weight. He is better than Mata but Mikhi is a bit different and more direct. He is younger than both and has significant upsides.

There will be a true starting CF bought in the summer, as neither Rashford nor Martial are proven enough to get the job and Griezzman, if bought, will not fill that role. We might also get someone like Chicharito for when we need to throw in the kitchen sink.

Rashford and Martial will spend most of their time competing for LWF and CF sub while all other attacking players will compete for the other two attacking spots behind the striker. I expect 1 or 2 attacking midfielders to join that rotation
 
I don't get why people are hung up on his apparent lack of pace and power.

Firstly, regarding pace, just look at the clips of him and you'll notice not many payers catch him. He's deceptively quick. He can do everything and more than most "pacey" players; he can carry the ball looking distances, he can take people on better than most players I've seen recently. On the counter he will either do this or play a killer ball to another runner.

Whatever game plan we have, whether it's counter or possession, he'd be great. The sane can't be said for most pace players.

Regarding him being "lightweight", it didn't matter. He fights hard for every ball. Look at prime Barca and his fast they recovered the ball, this was through positioning, tenacity and ability to read the opposition. All of which Silva does well. Watch Monaco play and you will often see the opponent left back move the ball across the pitch because Bernardo cuts off passing options or harrasses them.

Basically his skills and ability mean that a lack of pace and being lightweight are a compete non-issue.
 
Mata deserves every praise but frankly, I will swap him for an attacking midfielder with close ball control, dribbling skills, speed, and a great eye for goals.
Tell me who that is with all those qualities- who is attainable.

And that's what Mata is minus speed !
 
There is no need to go for shiny toys every year- a big no on this. Mikhi will be better next season as well.
 
Sign b.Silva, Griezman and Lukaku.

Silva is on the thin side but has an amazing centre of gravity. The ball is also like glue to his feet so any comparison to Ronaldo is void. I can only compare Messi dribbling ability to his, no else I've seen quite commands that close ball control. The way he jogged passd City midfiled (who are very physical) was wonderful to watch. Griezman is needed as a wide forward and Lukaku to be rotated with Rashford.

Rashford (Lukaku)
Martial mkh silva griezman mkh lingard
Ander pogba carrick fellaini new mid
Defence
Gk

This gives a good core and strong bench. If we make the champs league we need a deep squad. I have not mentioned mata as i think he will be sold ( i wouod keep him).
 
So basically a whole new team then? when you factor in De Gea seems likely to be off.
Within the next few years yeah. Left back, center back and right back are obvious. As is the midfielder. Then we dont have a winger which we've sorely lacked for years and then I've never been convinced of Rashford being able to be a lone striker for a side like United. In a 2, sure. Not alone though. Ibra was the stop gap up top. Hes done now. Carrick was able to put in another year in midfield, hes likely done now too. Rojo was potentially forming a good partnership, now he'll do well to get back into any decent form by the end of next season. Valencia is turning 32 in the summer, how long can he be the physical beast he is and stay fit? Not too much longer. Left back all we have are average at best options but its been a weak spot since Evra declined.

Like you say, de gea off too. Dont think its a stretch at all to say we need 7 new starting 11 players in the next year or 2 if we want a "complete side".
 
Pace makes everything easier and covers many flaws. With the way teams set up now, without pace, its easy to get crowded out and any advantage is lost quickly.

90% of the team which play against United park the bus. Just pace isnt going to work against those team since there wont be much room to use that pace.
 
Mobility is far more importance than pace, and Silva is anything but static.
 
We need him and 1 experienced striker to be a dominant force. Our back 6 is already set when Rojo gets back from injury. De Gea can do whatever he likes.

I hope playing on the right he teaches Valencia how to use his left foot, and Valencia teaches him how to use his right. Both would be so much better if they weren't so one footed.
 
Within the next few years yeah. Left back, center back and right back are obvious. As is the midfielder. Then we dont have a winger which we've sorely lacked for years and then I've never been convinced of Rashford being able to be a lone striker for a side like United. In a 2, sure. Not alone though. Ibra was the stop gap up top. Hes done now. Carrick was able to put in another year in midfield, hes likely done now too. Rojo was potentially forming a good partnership, now he'll do well to get back into any decent form by the end of next season. Valencia is turning 32 in the summer, how long can he be the physical beast he is and stay fit? Not too much longer. Left back all we have are average at best options but its been a weak spot since Evra declined.

Like you say, de gea off too. Dont think its a stretch at all to say we need 7 new starting 11 players in the next year or 2 if we want a "complete side".
Did they have to chop off Rojo's leg below the knee or something?
 
Did they have to chop off Rojo's leg below the knee or something?
Well I'm not banking on him coming back and being world class, considering most United fans wanted him sold up until a few months ago. A few months of looking really good in a few years of mostly shit doesn't mean he has a spot nailed down a year from now when he recovers from ACL surgery.
 
He's missing a LOT of braincells to be fair.

He still wasn't given any chance to play into any kind of form. With better players and some patience he'd possibly be one of the better players in the league overall. Who knows though. Maybe he just didn't have the desire for it. That would be a very bad sign after a big move. He had lots of potential too though. So did Powell.
 
Within the next few years yeah. Left back, center back and right back are obvious. As is the midfielder. Then we dont have a winger which we've sorely lacked for years and then I've never been convinced of Rashford being able to be a lone striker for a side like United. In a 2, sure. Not alone though. Ibra was the stop gap up top. Hes done now. Carrick was able to put in another year in midfield, hes likely done now too. Rojo was potentially forming a good partnership, now he'll do well to get back into any decent form by the end of next season. Valencia is turning 32 in the summer, how long can he be the physical beast he is and stay fit? Not too much longer. Left back all we have are average at best options but its been a weak spot since Evra declined.

Like you say, de gea off too. Dont think its a stretch at all to say we need 7 new starting 11 players in the next year or 2 if we want a "complete side".
You are completely discounting the ability of players to step up and improve on this season. I think that Shaw and Martial have shown enough to be afforded patience for one more season and in the event that they did struggle next season we have Mkhitaryan, Rashford and Mata to come in for Martial and I think Blind can stand in for Shaw should Shaw bomb again. As for replacing Valencia we do have squad options in TFM, Darmian and Young. Basically its a squad game.
What we need next season is sure fire goal scorer, a world class CB and a holding midfielder. We do have room for a player like B. Silva because such a talent is one tou can not miss out not only because of his potential upside but also because of what he can offer now. He increases the number and quality of chances we would create, his skill can open up parked buses and also leave a lot of room for the likes of Pogba and Martial because teams will double mark him. We missed out on Hazard back in the day lets not make the same mistake again.
 
Within the next few years yeah. Left back, center back and right back are obvious. As is the midfielder. Then we dont have a winger which we've sorely lacked for years and then I've never been convinced of Rashford being able to be a lone striker for a side like United. In a 2, sure. Not alone though. Ibra was the stop gap up top. Hes done now. Carrick was able to put in another year in midfield, hes likely done now too. Rojo was potentially forming a good partnership, now he'll do well to get back into any decent form by the end of next season. Valencia is turning 32 in the summer, how long can he be the physical beast he is and stay fit? Not too much longer. Left back all we have are average at best options but its been a weak spot since Evra declined.

Like you say, de gea off too. Dont think its a stretch at all to say we need 7 new starting 11 players in the next year or 2 if we want a "complete side".
Yes I would agree there and I think it will happen over the next 2 summers as well. Mourinho when he came in said he would swap the lot if he could, and he will. Expect anything from 4-6 new players (due to De Gea as well) this summer and another 2-3 next summer. I would go for a proper LW though someone who can go past a player and cross with their LF, hopefully a 2 footed player would be ideal, as were overstocked with RF players who always cut inside.
 
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