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Brad said:
A bit patronising to Spurs. The money they've spent in recent years, there's no good reason why they shouldn't be competing for Champions league places, and perhaps more
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Not trying to patronise them, but the lack of a trully worldclass forward was there for all to see last saturday and will be there to see this saturday. I actually think last season they would have been fine, robbie keane and bent would have been enougth quality to see them though most games.

If you hadn't noticed, we don't have another Ronaldo in our squad either!
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Your right we don't but we do have players who like I said could come in a do a decent job. We could play nani on the right and giggs left, or park, fletch or anderson all nowhere near as good as ronnie but still i would expect us to beat at least 90% of prem league teams even with backup.

If as you say Spurs look a different team with Berbatov starting, in a game during the heart of speculation, I fancy Spurs would happily hold on to the player despite concerns over his attitude
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I think a coach like ramos would probably consider Milito or perhaps even kanoute or forlan to be capable of doing a better job than a sulky berbatov. He's obviously clearly stated he's intentions so I don't think he's attitude is going to be good for the team as a whole in terms of dressingroom atmosphere (which is something that ramos alluded to in he's statement today).
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Brad said:
I'd draw a comparison between this and the Barry saga personally

Player clearly wants to leave for the bigger club. Club don't want to sell, but set a very pricey amount at which they'll sanction it. Buying club thinks the price is too much, but the saga continues because they want the player. Player gets more desperate and starts coming out in the media. Player is sanctioned in some way

How did that saga finish? Barry still at Villa

Unless the buying club agrees to pay the desired price, Berbatov stays. If United were willing to pay such a price, the player would already be here. For me, Berbatov is still unlikely to come here, unless we change our monetary stance, perhaps out of desperation more than anything
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28M and we'll have him. That's how it will end.
 
Brad said:
Ronaldo wanted to move to Madrid mate, he's admitted so himself in his concession. Some fans may wish to con themselves its not so because he didn't hand in a transfer request, but more fool them

I fancy a lesser manager than Ferguson and the lad wouldn't be here now

The Ronaldo saga was during the heart of the summer, not as the season started. It would have been interesting to see how Fergie played it had the circumstances been different. I have no idea whether Berbatovs actions are working, I fancy not unless United move to a price Spurs are willing to accept, which naturally will be more than his actual 'market' worth. Whether United consider such a price to be worth it to us, we'll soon see. But like Madrid, its not for us to set our own price, we have to pay whatever they are willing to sell for, and its just tough shit if we don't, we won't get the player
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Well, you see, Fergie IS our manager, not a lesser one, and your scenario didn't happen, was never likely to happen and is doubtful it ever will whilst Fergie remains our manager. Ronaldo would have moved had an offer been accepted by us. No offer came and no transfer request followed. Berbs is completely different. We've offered and he's put in a transfer request as well, no comparison. It is up to us whether we wish to offer more or not. We've set our price and Levy takes it or leaves it. if his teams morale falls, it's down to him and nobody else.
 
fjred said:
Well, you see, Fergie IS our manager, not a lesser one, and your scenario didn't happen, was never likely to happen and is doubtful it ever will whilst Fergie remains our manager. Ronaldo would have moved had an offer been accepted by us. No offer came and no transfer request followed. Berbs is completely different. We've offered and he's put in a transfer request as well, no comparison. It is up to us whether we wish to offer more or not. We've set our price and Levy takes it or leaves it. if his teams morale falls, it's down to him and nobody else.
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Hopefully Spurs will now consider a lower fee to avoid having a very disgruntled player sitting in the stands - which presumably is to nobody's advantage. Actually the sort of thing that could have been happening to Ronaldo had he not eventually come to his senses.
 
Julian Denny said:
Hopefully Spurs will now consider a lower fee to avoid having a very disgruntled player sitting in the stands - which presumably is to nobody's advantage. Actually the sort of thing that could have been happening to Ronaldo had he not eventually come to his senses.
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Sure, but it didn't happen and, in my view, was never likely to. Once Ronaldo was away from Scolari, Marca, Ballague etc. and communicated with Fergie again, it was all over. Berbs is a completely different situation.
 
BahamaRed said:
I still say its an excellent sign that the berb isn't in his lilywhites today
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Agreed. Levy will end up like Calderon, in a minority of one, facing a side room and a loaded pistol! (metaphorical, I hasten to add)
 
rotherham_red said:
Surely your not comparing this with the Ronaldo situation?

Ronaldo was at the already European Champions, and was at the pinnacle of the European game. He had no footballing reason to want to leave. He was, and still is, in my eyes, being a cnut by not respecting the fans who stuck up for him when the world and his dog as baying for his (metaphorical) blood after the World Cup.

Berbatov simply wants to progress in his career, albeit he is taking a morally questionable route towards that career progression...
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And Here We Go Again Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!


ROTHERHAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Just seen leaving Watford Gap and heading for the M6

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Funny pictures. :D

According to the article, it was the Agent who flew to Manchester.

The truth about the transfer of Berbatov August 22, 2008, 12:08
Komentar Balgariya,

Sofia sent priyatel Danchev not Launched for the UK, to consider local landmarks because he had received a warning.

Because of the enormous interest in news of KEEPER on the transfer of Berbatov, having to make some adjustments. One part of the people povyarvaha us, and colleagues from other media, citing after us (for which we thank them), poizopachiha little information - has already been Mitko arrived in Manchester. Read carefully. KEEPER wrote that together with Berbo for Ostrova is mei and his menindzhar Emil Danchev.

Impresarioto will not run ey so for England, for example, to consider the landmarks of Great Britain. I go because he had received a warning. A warning is the following -- Both clubs have reached an agreement on payment of the sum of 25 million pounds. On Friday (today), on Saturday (tomorrow) or at the latest on Monday morning Mitko must undergo medical examinations and to play for Manchester against Portsmouth in the last game of the second Higher round of English League. As in that period, of course, be expected from 'Old Trafford' to officially announce the transfer. But we understand fans who still can not believe. Protochi transaction is quite long and is just that consumer in KEEPER, you wrote: Will you otdahna only when I see Mitko with the red jersey '. Our advice is to wait a little. Very little. KEEPER
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http://www.blitz.bg/index.php?sport=7941 I
 
Spurs should cash in. No point in keeping a unhappy £30 million player, they need some new players. 0 points after 2 games...
 
BAMSOLA said:
Ha ha amateurs, their berbatov thread is nothing compared to ours, 71pgs:rolleyes:.

Our Berbatov thread would crush their's like a bug.......like a Bug I tell you!!!!!!!!!
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Silliness. :rolleyes:


What is this? A Berbacomp? :D
 
Kelvin said:
the english translation is terrible. :lol:
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Hehe, can't expect much from an online translation, so I quote directly from the poster with the link. Credit to him.

L. Marinov wrote the following post at Sat, Aug 23 2008 2:44 PM: Yesterday Blitz information agency posted a comment regarding other news sites misquoted their news, they`ve never said that Berbatov headed to Manchester, they`ve reported his manager Emil Dantchev went to Manchester because he "got a signal". They claim that signal is both clubs have reached an agreement about the deal and the way of payment of 25m pounds for the Berbatov`s transfer. They also claim that Berbatov gonna do the medical exams this weekend or monday and that the deal gonna be a fact before tuesday. This is the link to the story, but its in bulgarian: http://www.blitz.bg/index.php?sport=7941 I dont know if their source is trustable, but they seem pretty confident about the deal. I hope we gonna see Berbatov in a red shirt monday :) PS. About the Sun`s jibberish bout Berbatov already signing "red" shirts, Its just a total lie, take a closer look at the "signed" red shirt of the fan and the shirt he is actually signing - they are totally different. I think it actually is a CSKA Sofia shirt (one of his former Bulgarian clubs). In all of his interviews, he said that he will never say or do something bad for the people in Spurs, even the janitor. He knows that club gave him alot and he will never do something disrespectful like that...
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Brad said:
Ronaldo wanted to move to Madrid mate, he's admitted so himself in his concession. Some fans may wish to con themselves its not so because he didn't hand in a transfer request, but more fool them

I fancy a lesser manager than Ferguson and the lad wouldn't be here now

The Ronaldo saga was during the heart of the summer, not as the season started. It would have been interesting to see how Fergie played it had the circumstances been different. I have no idea whether Berbatovs actions are working, I fancy not unless United move to a price Spurs are willing to accept, which naturally will be more than his actual 'market' worth. Whether United consider such a price to be worth it to us, we'll soon see. But like Madrid, its not for us to set our own price, we have to pay whatever they are willing to sell for, and its just tough shit if we don't, we won't get the player
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Ronaldo did want to move but he did not make his position at OT untenable unlike Berbatov or Robinhio, who more or less have made it clear that they don't turn up for their respective clubs any more. As much as Fergie wanted to feck Real off, I don't think he would have hold on to Ronnie if he thought he was gonna be a bad influence in the dressing room. Especially given his influence on Nani, Anderson and possibly the twins.
 
we havent even made a bid ..

if berbatov refused to play then he is an idiot

a sexy one
 
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