Berbatov

Status
Not open for further replies.
Berbatov 9 said:
Dong received his work permit because of the time he had spent on loan at Royal Antwerp/number of International caps he had.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6184803.stm
Click to expand...

The loan to Antwerp was so that he could get a dual passport nationality, but China wouldn't allow it and if he did so he would then be ineligible for China.

He only played a few times for China, Manucho has played for Angola a fair bit more.

He got it on appeal as he is 'an outstanding talent', or so I've heard.

China coach Zhu Guanghu does not believe Manchester United striker Dong Fangzhou will take a European passport as the club hope, as it will rule him ineligible to represent his country.

The Chinese youngster, signed back in January 2004, has impressed during The Red Devils' pre-season campaign and Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that the 21-year-old could bypass work permit regulations by securing European nationality in December.

Dong will be able to take a European passport after spending three years on loan in Belgium with Royal Antwerp, leaving him free to finally start his career at Old Trafford.

However such a move would render his Chinese nationality invalid under the rules of the Asian country, meaning his international career would effectively be compromised.

Now Zhu, despite his delight at United's apparent high opinion of the player, has warned that Dong may not concede to their wishes regarding his nationality.

"I am very pleased that Manchester United have recognised Dong's ability as he is a very talented player," said Zhu.

"I know that he is capable of performing at a high level and it would be a great honour for him to play for Manchester United in The English Premier League.

"However, our government does not allow dual nationality and since Dong is an important member of the team that we are preparing for the 2008 Olympics, I don't think that he would give up his Chinese nationality in order to get a passport in Europe."

If Zhu is proved correct then United will still hope to secure a work permit on the basis that the forward has played four times for his country, or on appeal that he represents an outstanding talent.

"We could apply for a work permit on the fact the lad has played four times for China," said Ferguson earlier in the week.

"We might be able to get a work permit on potential as it stands on appeal."
 
"You might be surprised at what is going to happen over the next two days" - Sir Alex Ferguson

This scares me, because I would not be suprised if we signed Berbatov...and I guess most people would see that one comming. Are we in for someone else then or more than one player comming? to many questions and no answers
 
gerrydaly said:
:lol:

My mum was from Limerick. I am aware that the name Collopy is quite notorious in the city now.
Click to expand...

Strange place. I remember hearing a story that a famous Irish comedian made some jokes about Limerick on tv a few years back. The following night, the stables in his place went on fire. Hard to know if that's true, but if it it.....feckin hell.
 
brophs said:
Strange place. I remember hearing a story that a famous Irish comedian made some jokes about Limerick on tv a few years back. The following night, the stables in his place went on fire. Hard to know if that's true, but if it it.....feckin hell.
Click to expand...

No idea either, but it's had this violent reputation for ages.

Did a google on Collopy and Limerick a few months ago and found some guy who guy called Brian Collopy involved in gang warfare drugs andmurders.
 
I won't be berbatov, probably santa cruz or huntelaar.
 
Ive not seen enough of either of them to view an opinion

someone sum up which is better and why
 
Brwned said:
The loan to Antwerp was so that he could get a dual passport nationality, but China wouldn't allow it and if he did so he would then be ineligible for China.

He only played a few times for China, Manucho has played for Angola a fair bit more.

He got it on appeal as he is 'an outstanding talent', or so I've heard.

China coach Zhu Guanghu does not believe Manchester United striker Dong Fangzhou will take a European passport as the club hope, as it will rule him ineligible to represent his country.

The Chinese youngster, signed back in January 2004, has impressed during The Red Devils' pre-season campaign and Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that the 21-year-old could bypass work permit regulations by securing European nationality in December.

Dong will be able to take a European passport after spending three years on loan in Belgium with Royal Antwerp, leaving him free to finally start his career at Old Trafford.

However such a move would render his Chinese nationality invalid under the rules of the Asian country, meaning his international career would effectively be compromised.

Now Zhu, despite his delight at United's apparent high opinion of the player, has warned that Dong may not concede to their wishes regarding his nationality.

"I am very pleased that Manchester United have recognised Dong's ability as he is a very talented player," said Zhu.

"I know that he is capable of performing at a high level and it would be a great honour for him to play for Manchester United in The English Premier League.

"However, our government does not allow dual nationality and since Dong is an important member of the team that we are preparing for the 2008 Olympics, I don't think that he would give up his Chinese nationality in order to get a passport in Europe."

If Zhu is proved correct then United will still hope to secure a work permit on the basis that the forward has played four times for his country, or on appeal that he represents an outstanding talent.

"We could apply for a work permit on the fact the lad has played four times for China," said Ferguson earlier in the week.

"We might be able to get a work permit on potential as it stands on appeal."
Click to expand...

I think it was the caps that swung it in the end though, or a brown envelope appearing on a Senior Home Office officials sofa ;)

The outstading talent thing is more to do with what kind of an enhancement he'd be to English football.

Seeing as he was only set to play reserve football, that would have been zero.

As it stands now, it looks as though he's leaving us, as he was not given a squad number.
 
The Sun are claiming he has handed in a transfer request in tomorrows papers.

Probably not true knowing them.
 
The Sun says Berba gave a Transfer Request (The Sun => huge pinch of salt)
 
Aussie56 said:
Hunty and Villa

Whose the better and why, i dont watch the dutch or spanish leagues at all

Villa was good in the euros mind
Click to expand...

Villa is a fair bit better, but I quite like both of them.

Huntelaar is the better scorer and is guaranteed to score plenty of goals every season, but Villa is better than him in pretty much every other way.
 
Brwned said:
Villa is a fair bit better, but I quite like both of them.

Huntelaar is the better scorer and is guaranteed to score plenty of goals every season, but Villa is better than him in pretty much every other way.
Click to expand...

Could Huntelaar be a kuyt though?
 
they are watching the thread and won't allow the signing to go ahead until the thread has broken through the 200 page barrier
 
KeyserSoze said:
The Sun are claiming he has handed in a transfer request in tomorrows papers.

Probably not true knowing them.
Click to expand...

Probably bollocks. Only two days ago they said this:

DIMITAR BERBATOV expects to be a Manchester United player within the next 48 hours.
The Bulgarian striker has told his Tottenham team-mates that he is on his way to Old Trafford.

The £25million deal ends a year-long pursuit of the player by United boss Alex Ferguson.

As we reported on Saturday, United were confident the deal would be done by the end of this week.

Now the Champions hope to unveil him as their new signing in time to be eligible for their big kick-off against Newcastle on Sunday.

Berbatov, 27, feared the deal might be off when reports surfaced of possible United moves for Thierry Henry at Barcelona and Valencia’s David Villa.

But Berbatov was always Ferguson’s No1 one target. He has had three bids rejected — last summer, in the New Year and at the end of this season.
 
oleonenumber20 said:
Ive been away for a while have we signed him yet?
Click to expand...

Negative, click back a few pages and Ferguson is quoted saying "You might be surprised what will take place in the next two days". A lot of people on here think that means no Berbatov, but an alternative.
 
oleonenumber20 said:
Ive been away for a while have we signed him yet?
Click to expand...

Yeah, signed for £24.63m earlier today.

Aussie56 said:
Could Huntelaar be a kuyt though?
Click to expand...

Not a chance. Kuyt was always a hardworking forward, who was made to look like he had so much more in his locker at Feyenoord. He seemed like the complete player there.

But Huntelaar is an exception to the recent rule of most players that come out of there with big reputations turn out to be shit.
 
oleonenumber20 said:
what shit?
Click to expand...

Kuyt was apparently rather awesome in the netherlands, and from what ive seen of Huntelaar hes not in the mould of VanN though i havent seen too much

Just throwing the suggestion out there, Kezman, Kuyt, for every goodun theres a few who dont settle
 
Ace said:
Negative, click back a few pages and Ferguson is quoted saying "You might be surprised what will take place in the next two days". A lot of people on here think that means no Berbatov, but an alternative.
Click to expand...

thanks for the update, Doyle it is then
 
TomCat said:
If it means David Villa, then I'm on board!
Click to expand...

He's crap though



Whatever Ferguson means about surprising people, he's not talking about Berbatov. The surprise there would be that we end up not signing him, since the internet and the media believe we have him wrapped up.

But of course he could just be saying it so that Spurs know we have other options.
 
Surely it cant be a large coup, surely nothing so big as villa, huntelaar or henry could be "unveiled"

In todays media something like that would get out, the only way there could be a surprise is if the player is smaller and unsuspecting.
 
Aussie56 said:
Surely it cant be a large coup, surely nothing so big as villa, huntelaar or henry could be "unveiled"

In todays media something like that would get out, the only way there could be a surprise is if the player is smaller and unsuspecting.
Click to expand...

but we are lacking a big target man up front
 
Aussie56 said:
Surely it cant be a large coup, surely nothing so big as villa, huntelaar or henry could be "unveiled"

In todays media something like that would get out, the only way there could be a surprise is if the player is smaller and unsuspecting.
Click to expand...

You never know. They kept Nani and Anderson completely under wraps last summer before we signed them.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.