Ignorant and after looking it up, still ignorant.
Bebe | 2010/11 Performances
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Ignorant and after looking it up, still ignorant.
You can chose to be ignorant if you want. I said in that very post that he was poor, and on this page itself multiple criticisms about him. However, it is stupid to say we should sell him on so few games.
I think we should loan him to a PL club (if any want him) or to the Championship next year to see how he progresses. Maybe it could help him like it helped Welbeck. If he's still rubbish then we can try find someone ready to buy him.
Too soon for the first team even if he is carrying a bigger price tag for a young 'un than usual. He should play regularly for the reserves and earn his place in them cup games like the rest.
Bit harsh that Jay. Scholesy said nothing in that post that loads of posters haven't said themselves.
He's writing Bebe, Obertan and Gibson off. It's hardly groundbreaking.
Does he know any English?
If not it might be a blessing over the next week or so.
If not it might be a blessing over the next week or so.
Another blind one...Where have I said that Brad....
Best to read the post next time Brad.
Pardon my obvious ignorance then but I'm just not sure how that word can be used to describe a number.
Although wikipedia could be lying to me, it wouldn't be the first time. I looked for that Makelele track for at least 5 minutes.
Take a dictionary not wiki.
Blind about what? What are you not seeing here?
I'm saying he played poor. He's not shown much here so far either.
What I'm not saying is that we should sell him. That's not being blind fadas.
If City or Liverpool signed this clown, we'd be pissing ourselves laughing.
Cos he turns out in our shirt, he's "a work in progress".
If he turns out to be a player, I'll eat my own mickey.
he's on what? 20 or 30k a week? At his age, he should be showing some sort of ability... he has none.
As Summerbee would have it.... Simple as that.
Cos he turns out in our shirt, he's "a work in progress".
If he turns out to be a player, I'll eat my own mickey.
he's on what? 20 or 30k a week? At his age, he should be showing some sort of ability... he has none.
As Summerbee would have it.... Simple as that.
Aha, well you still used the wrong word. The word should have been cornucopia, not cornucopian. That one letter makes a big difference to the meaning.
His crosses stayed in the pitch this game. I consider that progress.
Well it's clearly not what you called it.
Give him time lads one day he will be this good.... and we'll have the last laugh because we paid £5m less than A.C Milan did.
Thing is though, the only way to truly improve and develop his and all young player's game is to play them when the oppurtunity presents itself. You can train the house down for months and years but the only way to harness the ability and find out about a player is by playing him in competitive games.
Today was a prime oppurtunity to blood Bebe, Obertan, and Fabio. Only one of them took his chance and showed his potential and that was neither of the two wingers. Fabio was excellent, Obertan looked as clumsy as usual and Bebe simply looked lost.
It's dangerous to write anyone off, especially a young player with potential but Obertan especially just doesn't look hungry enough to push himself and improve to me. Bebe will need more time but £7m was without doubt a ridiculous fee to pay for such an unproven player.
You're right, I just vented out more because of his accumulative posting which is getting rather annoying.
I wouldnt write Bebe or Gibson off just yet, granted they're treading on thin ice. But Obertan is even more short on time.
As far as scholesy goes, rarely have I seen him being a bit more supportive of " his team " ( feck knows if thats even united anymore) whereas the rest* seem invincible.
*Read Spuds, Arsenal's front 6 and Delfuenso.
Well personally I don't agree with selling him. a) we wouldn't get anywhere close to what we paid for him and b) it's his first season as a pro.
I personally don't believe he has much of a chance of making it if I'm brutally honest, although it is too early to tell.
I personally don't believe he has much of a chance of making it if I'm brutally honest, although it is too early to tell.
I want United to play like Barcelona or be as good as possible. Players like Gibson, Bebe and Obertan, and many others like Macheda, are stopping us from doing this. This is why I don't really support these players. I do not want them to fail but I would just prefer if we had better players.
You're right, I dont think Obertan can be excused in anyway for his performance tonight.
As far as Bebe goes, its clear that its training and tuning his skills that is the problem which can only be solved with gametime and training. Gametime being reserve games which seem a more sensible solution than rare cup games.
Though Im sure his transfer fees comprises of add-ons and stuff, but yes, as of now anything seems much after today.
Any which way, I would still wait before turning a judgement on him
Bebe's going to take a year or two to get his feet under him. I won't judge him until then. He's got lots of work to do, but it's far too early to write him off considering the circumstances.
I'll try again then
Arguing against the grain for the piss of it?
If you seriously think that lad has any chance of being a first team regular for us you're barking
Some dodgy bollocks has occured there, have no doubt about it
Since when does Ferguson sign a player he's never seen for crying out loud?!
He really is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a United shirt.
He can't fecking do anything right.
He can't fecking do anything right.
We don't play in a league as rubbish as La Liga and we won't ever play like them. The way we play is good enough.
You can't have a full squad of superstars like Delfuenso or Norwood. Too many egos.
Having no footballing academical education is a major disadvantage which I pointed out when we signed him, and to suddenly be fast tracked to the biggest club in the world and expect top performances is a lot to ask. Its evident on the pitch that he doesnt have a football brain. Huff.
WTF?? Bebe's on his way out already? Patience isnt really the average footballfans strong side is it?
Today was not good enough, and we were playing Crawley.
You my friend are the embodiment of the modern day plastic, spoilt brat breed of supporter(and I use that term loosely). You support your team and it's player's through thick and thin, not slag them off because they aren't the new Messi, Iniesta, or Villa. In case you haven't noticed, Manchester United have played fantastic football over the course of our history and in the last 20 years have mopped up more trophies than Barca-fecking-lona could ever dream of. Have a word with yourself and drop the super-scout act, please. Your like a broken record, a record which plays retarded tracks anyroad.
Thats where you're wrong. United WILL NEVER play like Barcelona and Barcelona WILL NEVER play like United. We each have respective styles and we adhere to them, anything else wouldnt be true to either of the club's nature.
And FYI, you win some and you lose some, some of the prospects turn out well and some dont. But you have to take that gamble. Any which way, till a player is at the club learn to support them.
Probably at Crawley.
Quite nasty to judge the general capability a young boy in a new league in a new country on a few football games. Daniel Taylor should quit his job, an utter useless waste of space who should be ashamed of calling himself a journalist, it's just premature and bullshit really.
Superb.WTF?? Bebe's on his way out already? Patience isnt really the average footballfans strong side is it?
Tell that to Zoran Tosic - sold after around 180 minutes of first team football.
Are you happy with Gibson, Bebe, Obertan, Macheda, Diouf?
Do you not want to improve?
Are you happy with 2nd place?
Scholesy is a WUM, any other explanation cannot suffice.
We have 4 away games in 12 days Wednesday onwards. Did you expect us to roll out the first team?
Barcelona lost 3-1 to Betis some weeks back. Even they can shite at times.
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