BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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Rio has his say on José and Ryan:

It's ironic because there was zero talk of 'philosophy' until Van Gaal came in. Now it's used as the very stick to beat him with and to big up his assistant.

Of course Giggs knows the United way, but there's no guarantee he'll implement it even slightly successfully, or even do very well at all. I'd rather be challenging for titles under Mourinho, than playing '4-4-2 The United Way™' in the Europa League, which is far more likely.
 
Strange logic. Most would think winning it with smaller clubs and less resources is perfect reasoning to move up to bigger clubs.

Like Benitez who won the league and UEFA Cup with Valencia and the CL with Liverpool but didn't even last a year at Real Madrid?

All I'm trying to say is that it's maybe not as straight forward as one might think, football is a bit illogical at times.
 
Like Benitez who won the league and UEFA Cup with Valencia and the CL with Liverpool but didn't even last a year at Real Madrid?

All I'm trying to say is that it's maybe not as straight forward as one might think, football is a bit illogical at times.

That's not really the best example since Perez is a notorious moron who once sacked Del Bosque after winning the CL.
 
That's not really the best example since Perez is a notorious moron who once sacked Del Bosque after winning the CL.

He also sacked Pellegrini after a very exciting season where Madrid were great to watch, because he lacked charisma.
 
It would be funny to see John Terry try and inspire a coup d'etat against Mourinho only to fail miserably because he doesn't have the support of the dressing room, staff or fans.
 
Moyes, Lescott; Mourinho, Terry; van Gaal, Vlaar. There's always one.
 
Odds generally mean feck all, but Mourinho is 1/6 to be this club's next manager.
 
what for me is disturbing is Giggs himself is all keen to be manager.

Is that supreme confidence? based on what? or just arrogance?

It makes you think. Does Giggs really love Manchester United? or is it all about himself?

oh geez. of course giggs fecking loves united. are you kidding me?

anyone in his shoes would want to manage united - anyone in anyone's shoes would want to manage united!
 
Look at this shite from the turtle headed one. feck off.


Sellout brigade of now wouldnt mind this i guess,if you dont mind one cnut,why would say no to another,everything just to win a title next season,there is no to high price to pay. Oh almost forgot Jose`s animal will join also,Rui Faria was it,please let it happen, Jose the cnut,Terry the cnut and Rui the cnut animal,epic.
 
oh geez. of course giggs fecking loves united. are you kidding me?

anyone in his shoes would want to manage united - anyone in anyone's shoes would want to manage united!
He should go to a much smaller club and learn his trade first, then. This is the most pivotal point in the club's recent history. One more poor appointment and we're fecked. Giggs shouldn't be in contention.
 
what for me is disturbing is Giggs himself is all keen to be manager.

Is that supreme confidence? based on what? or just arrogance?

It makes you think. Does Giggs really love Manchester United? or is it all about himself?
In my humble opinion, I think it's part arrogance, part ignorance and partly because he does love the club in his own way.

I think though that it's got to the point where he'll do anything (as evidenced by the constant shit spouted by ex team mates of his) to get the job if he could. There's no logic to his thinking is the impression I get. He can't see beyond his ambition, and that is not good for us or him.

Unfortunately, no one around him is willing to give him a reality check, and I don't think he's aware or intelligent enough to understand just exactly what is involved in management, much less managing United.

But ultimately, my suspicion is that deep down it's not management that he's enthralled with - it's being Man Utd manager as others have also said. There is a big difference between the two.
 
Sellout brigade of now wouldnt mind this i guess,if you dont mind one cnut,why would say no to another,everything just to win a title next season,there is no to high price to pay. Oh almost forgot Jose`s animal will join also,Rui Faria was it,please let it happen, Jose the cnut,Terry the cnut and Rui the cnut animal,epic.
Good to see no one is overreacting about Mourinho :lol:
 
Sellout brigade of now wouldnt mind this i guess,if you dont mind one cnut,why would say no to another,everything just to win a title next season,there is no to high price to pay. Oh almost forgot Jose`s animal will join also,Rui Faria was it,please let it happen, Jose the cnut,Terry the cnut and Rui the cnut animal,epic.
I'm pretty sure 90%+ of fans would not want John Terry.

Non issue anyway cause he'll stay at Chelsea FC or go to China anyway
 
Sellout brigade of now wouldnt mind this i guess,if you dont mind one cnut,why would say no to another,everything just to win a title next season,there is no to high price to pay. Oh almost forgot Jose`s animal will join also,Rui Faria was it,please let it happen, Jose the cnut,Terry the cnut and Rui the cnut animal,epic.
The emotions are strong in this one!
 
wanting and being qualified to manage Manchester United are very different things.

speaking of different things, that's what you've just done here.

you were saying that you were annoyed how giggs had the audacity to actually want the job for himself. not just that, you questioned whether he even likes the club in the first place.

it's not for him to decide whether he's qualified for the job. everyone knows that. that decision isn't his to make. but as a club legend who's served as an assistant manager for around three years, he is allowed to wish that he gets the change to manage the team himself.
 
Well done Sherlock you find one in a list you don't like and then act all high and mighty. It is called an opinion. Maybe you should look at why De Boer is rated as one of the top young coaches out there or is that too difficult for you.
It must be the four titles in a row, because anyone who has actually seen his Ajax knows he has bored the fans to death, and they know how to appreciate possession football and they are quite forgiving when there's a bit of dwelling because they are absolutely not forgiving of untidy passing. The majority wants him to go, bad football, titles because of failing competition, terrible cup results, teribble European results, beaten and humiliated by lot lesser clubs, terrible signings.

No one knows who will do what at which club or how the manager's style will be received by the fans, pretty sure most on here did not anticipate LVG.
He tries to imitate LvG's style, but the only part he understands is the possession. Doing something with it, like beeing defensively strong and producing free flowing football like LvG generally does (allthoug he has often struggled here with that) is compleletly beyond him as the last 5 years have shown. And that's with Ajax, those players practically are bred for that. It's not new to them like United players, they don't have to do it at pace and under the physical pressure of the PL. He has unlearned them how to attack, it generally is worse than LvG's United at it's most boring. Besides the boredom, also on quality and perfomance he's nowhere near Van Gaal, for some reason Van Gaal is not universally loved at Ajax, but you won't find an Ajax fan who think De Boer is even close as good a manager as Van Gaal. The difference is much bigger than between Moyes nd SAF, some even hope he gets sacked at United so he can take over Ajax, with these players, he would cruise to titles and be a strong in Europe again.

So I know how his style will be recieved by the fans, not even mentioning performances, no way there's enough patience at any club in England for his style to be well recieved.
 
In my humble opinion, I think it's part arrogance, part ignorance and partly because he does love the club in his own way.

I think though that it's got to the point where he'll do anything (as evidenced by the constant shit spouted by ex team mates of his) to get the job if he could. There's no logic to his thinking is the impression I get. He can't see beyond his ambition, and that is not good for us or him.

Unfortunately, no one around him is willing to give him a reality check, and I don't think he's aware or intelligent enough to understand just exactly what is involved in management, much less managing United.

But ultimately, my suspicion is that deep down it's not management that he's enthralled with - it's being Man Utd manager as others have also said. There is a big difference between the two.
I mean this theory is all well and good but it's based on absolutely nothing! How can you say that his 'friends' are being told to say crap about the club, they are pundits and that's their job. No doubt Giggs would want the job but then if I was in his position so would I, that being said I don't think Giggs is some egotistical madman that will do anything to get what he wants, I think he is learning the trade like anyone else would in his position and hoping he gets a shot.

For the record I don't want him to be the next Utd manager I just have no idea where you get this impression from, it's much more likely he's just a normal bloke who enjoys being at Manchetser Utd and is hoping for a huge opportunity or break. If Mourinho comes in I think Giggs will probably accept that he needs to move on and if he's serious about management get a job elsewhere.
 
speaking of different things, that's what you've just done here.

you were saying that you were annoyed how giggs had the audacity to actually want the job for himself. not just that, you questioned whether he even likes the club in the first place.

it's not for him to decide whether he's qualified for the job. everyone knows that. that decision isn't his to make. but as a club legend who's served as an assistant manager for around three years, he is allowed to wish that he gets the change to manage the team himself.

Assistant manager of two managers that have failed miserably. I think that he should stop wishing and start earning his stripes elsewhere.
 
Sellout brigade of now wouldnt mind this i guess,if you dont mind one cnut,why would say no to another,everything just to win a title next season,there is no to high price to pay. Oh almost forgot Jose`s animal will join also,Rui Faria was it,please let it happen, Jose the cnut,Terry the cnut and Rui the cnut animal,epic.

6/10. Successful's rants are a lot better.
 
Assistant manager of two managers that have failed miserably. I think that he should stop wishing and start earning his stripes elsewhere.
Playing devils advocate but how do you know that Giggs is fully in agreement with those two managers? What if he is sat there with all these ideas of what we could do but ultimately doesn't get the final say? I think Giggs probably will go to another club after LVG leaves because I still don't think the club will appoint him but from his persepective why would he leave right now when he might get the biggest opportunity of his life!
 
I'm a bit worried that Ed & co will think: 'We've tried two outsiders and it hasn't worked; time for someone who's familiar with the club'.
Nah I think the synchronized choir putting Ryan's name in the hat in recent weeks is indicative of Giggs' backers really getting worried, if Woodward was on board they wouldn't be this campaign it would be a coronation. Ed and, naturally, the Glazers aren't on board with such a risky appointment - in this instance the fans' opinions and interests are perfectly aligned.
 
Playing devils advocate but how do you know that Giggs is fully in agreement with those two managers? What if he is sat there with all these ideas of what we could do but ultimately doesn't get the final say? I think Giggs probably will go to another club after LVG leaves because I still don't think the club will appoint him but from his persepective why would he leave right now when he might get the biggest opportunity of his life!
Why should he get the job based on nothing? It doesn't matter if he's got ideas. He needs to go elsewhere and implement these ideas and show that he can do it. What's wrong with getting a job based on your ability or qualification to do the job? If you just leave university, do you expect to be hired immediately as a CEO? Neville also thought he'd take his opportunity at Valencia as well - and now in a few short weeks he's virtually destroyed his credibility. Sometimes you have to be smart about the choices you make - especially if you're privileged enough to have as many choices as someone like Ryan.
 
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