BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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As much as I don't really like Jackson, he does know some stuff, and his report is far more believable that the crap that was printed the other night , where the close friend turned out to be a blabbing Harry Redknapp.

Jackson said we pulled out to sign Kroos and Fabregas, he took a load of stick but he was right.

I'm not saying Jose won't be our next manager, he probably will be IMO, but a strong finish to the season from Van Gaal would change everything.
The idea that it was Harry Redknapp was based on someone putting 2 and 2 together. They could very well have come up with 87.
 
As much as I don't really like Jackson, he does know some stuff, and his report is far more believable that the crap that was printed the other night , where the close friend turned out to be a blabbing Harry Redknapp.

Jackson said we pulled out to sign Kroos and Fabregas, he took a load of stick but he was right.

I'm not saying Jose won't be our next manager, he probably will be IMO, but a strong finish to the season from Van Gaal would change everything.

There was one very brief moment that Jamie Jackson seemed like a true darling in the caf (which is weird to think back on now), and for sure he'll have good sources, but I guess it's dependent on whether you think he's being spun by the people who are giving him information.
 
Not a single source for anything in that, not even a vague 'according to sources', just a load of statements presented as fact based on absolutely nothing...... by Jamie Jackson.
I have yet to see an article from him that is at least semi-positive for us. He comes as more Abu than Bald Castles.
 
He'll sell Mata and Fellaini, according to the Mail.
I don't believe that shit. That's just made up stuff to fill in today's pages. They don't discuss these things at this stage, they don't even know if he's going to come.

He sold Mata because he wanted to play other players in that role and Mata would not take the bench, not because he did not rate Mata. As for Fellaini, i don't even think he has an opinion.
 
He'll sell Mata and Fellaini, according to the Mail.
It's an easy assumption to make. It also seems the fried is Harry Redknapp. That throws cold water on the credibility of the reports.
 
The idea that it was Harry Redknapp was based on someone putting 2 and 2 together. They could very well have come up with 87.

And they could be spot on.

Classic Caf this, some guy writes a story that states Jose deal isn't done and won't be done if we finish in top 4, which very plausible, yet it's discarded as shite.

Yet the Star and Mail publish a story saying it's a done deal and because they used the word sources, everyone starts loving it.

I have wanted lvg gone for a while but I've made peace with the fact if he finishes top 4 he will be here next year.
 
And they could be spot on.

Classic Caf this, some guy writes a story that states Jose deal isn't done and won't be done if we finish in top 4, which very plausible, yet it's discarded as shite.

Yet the Star and Mail publish a story saying it's a done deal and because they used the word sources, everyone starts loving it.

I have wanted lvg gone for a while but I've made peace with the fact if he finishes top 4 he will be here next year.

It's being discarded as shite because it says there haven't been any talks yet and the BBC, Di Marzio and Balague are all saying otherwise.
 
And they could be spot on.

Classic Caf this, some guy writes a story that states Jose deal isn't done and won't be done if we finish in top 4, which very plausible, yet it's discarded as shite.

Yet the Star and Mail publish a story saying it's a done deal and because they used the word sources, everyone starts loving it.

I have wanted lvg gone for a while but I've made peace with the fact if he finishes top 4 he will be here next year.
My point was simply that we don't know it was Redknapp. The rest of your post is rather bizarre.
 
He didn't immediately win the league, he had a poor first season as well relatively speaking.
I dont remember it being a 'poor' first season. In fact I remember the opposite, his side looked promising and every was talking about them winning the league whilst Mourinho said 'not this year, next year'.
 
And they could be spot on.

Classic Caf this, some guy writes a story that states Jose deal isn't done and won't be done if we finish in top 4, which very plausible, yet it's discarded as shite.

Yet the Star and Mail publish a story saying it's a done deal and because they used the word sources, everyone starts loving it.

I have wanted lvg gone for a while but I've made peace with the fact if he finishes top 4 he will be here next year.
At least, you've got a bit of win-win there
 
And they could be spot on.

Classic Caf this, some guy writes a story that states Jose deal isn't done and won't be done if we finish in top 4, which very plausible, yet it's discarded as shite.

Yet the Star and Mail publish a story saying it's a done deal and because they used the word sources, everyone starts loving it.

I have wanted lvg gone for a while but I've made peace with the fact if he finishes top 4 he will be here next year.

I think there is little chance of LVG being allowed to continue into a third season unless he turns things around to the extent that the club offers (and he accepts) a contract extension. Didn't Fergie say a few years ago that he made a huge mistake in going public with his intention to retire at the end of that season? Didn't we witness Van Persie's huge disappointment when Fergie retired at the end of his (RVP's) first season at the club? The club simply cannot enter a season with a "lame duck" manager.
 
It's being discarded as shite because it says there haven't been any talks yet and the BBC, Di Marzio and Balague are all saying otherwise.

Balague? Christ.

I hope we do get Jose but I just don't think it's as clear cut as what has been made out.
 
Jackson doesn't know shit, proven it numerous times already and his texts are as valid as me writing on fashion.
 
I don't believe that shit. That's just made up stuff to fill in today's pages. They don't discuss these things at this stage, they don't even know if he's going to come.

He sold Mata because he wanted to play other players in that role and Mata would not take the bench, not because he did not rate Mata. As for Fellaini, i don't even think he has an opinion.

He barely gave Mata a chance regardless, even before he came in for his 2nd stint at Chelsea it was common knowledge he didn't rate him.
 
I thought this was interesting:

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full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35545354
Guardiola did have Messi on his team, though Jose had Ronaldo.
In any case, Guardiola definitely has the edge here.
Jose has the bigger trophy haul, though he has managed for longer.
 
I thought this was interesting:

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full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35545354
Guardiola did have Messi on his team, though Jose had Ronaldo.
In any case, Guardiola definitely has the edge here.
Jose has the bigger trophy haul, though he has managed for longer.

Guardiola managed two teams that would struggle to finish out of the top two. So it's skewed.
 
I thought this was interesting:

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full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35545354
Guardiola did have Messi on his team, though Jose had Ronaldo.
In any case, Guardiola definitely has the edge here.
Jose has the bigger trophy haul, though he has managed for longer.
Pep has been in jobs where it is a certainty to win things. Jose has been in jobs with more competitive opponents in some cases. Working in the PL does not guarantee a trophy.
 
Guardiola managed two teams that would struggle to finish out of the top two. So it's skewed.

Porto Chelsea Inter Real apart from Chelsea you could say the same about Mou...
I think Mourinho is certainly more experienced and especially in the PL but he has also managed in mainly favorable circumstances.
 
Sure it does. The same that wanted Pep probably wanted Klopp. The chemistry has to be right. That's why Giggs would have some qualities, that would suit the job. Jose though, has had luck which all good managers should have. His Porto team were lucky (in the champs league), because apart from the linesman robbing us, all the other big names were not at their best. That year was a real opportunity for us. He's being questioned - just like we have been since Sir Alex retired. Pep is still an unknown. He's never had to build a club up before. He very much took the easy route with City and I think Jose probably offers better stability over a longer period.
 
How many times has Jamie Jackson reported against the general narrative? It seems to be every major United story and that cant be a coincidence.
By laws of averages he gets one right and the ones he gets wrong he points to his lucky pick and hides behind it. Surely the Di Maria fiasco puts him on the ban list?
He either makes it up or has shit sources. Either way he's a joke.
 
I thought this was interesting:

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full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35545354
Guardiola did have Messi on his team, though Jose had Ronaldo.
In any case, Guardiola definitely has the edge here.
Jose has the bigger trophy haul, though he has managed for longer.

Apart from Jose doing it in more difficult/competitive leagues and with less talent bunch that Barca/Bayern, if we remove the super cups(both domestic and UEFA), and club world cups which all are glorified friendlies, then the count is 18-10. 9 in Pep's 19 trophies are the super cups types. It is also important to note that Mourinho, on both occasions of winning CL, left the club so he never had chance to gather those UEFA super cups and club world cups. Pep on the other hand was there next year both after 2009 and 2011, plus he has a club world cup and super cup to his name from a team which won treble before he came(Bayern 2013).
So for me, for practical purpose, it is 18-10. Given, Mou has done it with lesser talented players in tough leagues, so I rate him more right now. PL will be a great challenge for Pep and let's see how well he does.
 
You have really no idea, do you?
Well done Sherlock you find one in a list you don't like and then act all high and mighty. It is called an opinion. Maybe you should look at why De Boer is rated as one of the top young coaches out there or is that too difficult for you.
No one knows who will do what at which club or how the manager's style will be received by the fans, pretty sure most on here did not anticipate LVG.
 
Porto Chelsea Inter Real apart from Chelsea you could say the same about Mou...
I think Mourinho is certainly more experienced and especially in the PL but he has also managed in mainly favorable circumstances.
He won the CL with Porto and Inter, teams that you absolutely would not have expected to win at the time. Not to downplay Guardiola's achievements, they are fantastic, but he just hasn't done something like that. I suppose he has not had the opportunity, though
 
He won the CL with Porto and Inter, teams that you absolutely would not have expected to win at the time. Not to downplay Guardiola's achievements, they are fantastic, but he just hasn't done something like that. I suppose he has not had the opportunity, though

I agree, I was simply pointing out what the poster said also applied to Mou
 
Considering that he has won it with the second tier teams, maybe he would best be suited to managing Liverpool or Tottenham?

Hell maybe even Dortmund. He was there last weekend to watch them play. Uh-oh. :eek:

Strange logic. Most would think winning it with smaller clubs and less resources is perfect reasoning to move up to bigger clubs.
 
lol @ that graphic including super cups

should we add charity shields to fergie's haul?
 
Strange logic. Most would think winning it with smaller clubs and less resources is perfect reasoning to move up to bigger clubs.
He seems to be having a strange argument with himself more than anything.
 
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