BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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Isn't Jamie Jackson always trying to go against the overwhelming consensus so if it happens to be wrong he looks some some huge in the know? The BBC said there was talks so no contact is bollocks.
Does seem like a bit of a planted story. He's said a lot of quite breaking stuff within the article given the general consensus of nearly every one of his journalistic colleagues that Mourinho-Manchester United is as good as a done deal, but leads with the innocuous title "Mourinho would work outside Premier League for next job".

Like he himself doesn't even believe what he's writing but is probably worth splurging out on the off chance he can milk it later.
 
Sigh...

It's not what Mata thinks. It's the fact that if a few cliquey players don't like the manager it can cause problems in the dressing room. It means Jose wouldn't have a part of the dressing room before he's even stepped into it.

Anyway I'm just curious about what the players might be thinking. You can't deny that Jose has burned a few bridges with some players - and we know players from different clubs speak to each other or are their international team mates - I'm just hoping that extra negativity doesn't come into play if he's the manager here.

I'm not sure Juan 'hugs' Mata is the mutinous type.
 
Does seem like a bit of a planted story. He's said a lot of quite breaking stuff within the article given the general consensus of nearly every one of his journalistic colleagues that Mourinho-Manchester United is as good as a done deal, but leads with the innocuous title "Mourinho would work outside Premier League for next job".

Like he himself doesn't even believe what he's writing but is probably worth splurging out on the off chance he can milk it later.

The general consensus of Sam Cunningham (Daily Mail), Matthew Dunn (Express), Dave Kidd (Mirror) and David Woods (The Star) is that one of Mourinho's mates has been going around blabbing that it's a "done deal". That's not really the same thing as it actually being a done deal, and that bunch hardly constitutes "nearly every one" of the press pack.

The only person who has actually said it's a done deal is this Di Marzio character, who now seems to be rowing back on those twitter comments in bizarre fashion.

My two cents are that the club have spoken to Mourinho about his plans and that we might be on the look out but I doubt we have already offered him the position. I also suspect Mourinho isn't the only manager we have contacted.

Sounds about right I reckon.
 
Sounds like José is already going around telling people the job is his in the Summer. On one hand he's saying that but in the press he's saying the opposite, that he respects his former mentor LVG and won't discuss it while he's still clinging on.

Sums up the man for me, and why we should avoid the circus he'd turn us into.
 
The general consensus of Sam Cunningham (Daily Mail), Matthew Dunn (Express), Dave Kidd (Mirror) and David Woods (The Star) is that one of Mourinho's mates has been going around blabbing that it's a "done deal". That's not really the same thing as it actually being a done deal, and that bunch hardly constitutes "nearly every one" of the press pack.

The only person who has actually said it's a done deal is this Di Marzio character, who now seems to be rowing back on those twitter comments in bizarre fashion.



Sounds about right I reckon.
Ok well here's two more Mourinho-Manchester United stories published tonight alongside Jackson's

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-jose-mourinho-agree-7347494
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...d-boss-gears-summer-arrival-Old-Trafford.html

Seem a little more positive than Jamie Jackson no?

There's also multiple, multiple reports from reliable outlets all across Europe that say Mourinho is going to Manchester United. Of course it's not literally a done deal, most likely that has to happen after Van Gaal is no longer manager as having two managers doing the same job might lead to problems. And not every journalist is going to be saying this is happening, there are quite a lot of journalists out there in the world so the chance of total unanimity is mathematically slim. But there can be general consensus that it's going to happen.
 
Been reading Big Ron's book and it is interesting what he has to say about Sir Bobby. Apparently, Sir Bobby was the one who tapped up Ferguson at the Mexico World Cup in 1986, months before Atkinson was fired. Sir Bobby holds more sway than he is currently credited for, and is not quite the person his public persona would have you believe...
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/10/jose-mourinho-abroad-premier-league?CMP=share_btn_tw

Well that's a curve ball. Apparently not even preliminary contact between Mourinho and Utd so far, and implied that Van Gaal might not even leave this summer if he sneaks Champions League football.

Jamie Jackson ain't even a journalist- he's just some bellend who tagged on to a gaurdian christmas party one year whilst out drunk , befriended one of the journos and they can't get rid of him- he just sits in the cleaning cupboard with his laptop.
 
This is going to go on and on until Mourinho gets a new job, or LVG is sacked. Bottom is, most likely, same as with Moyes. No top four equals the sack, which would open the door for Mou.
 
Stop the denial.. Mourinho is our next manager! This sounds like the transfer thread negativity.

Poor Mata though.
 
Jamie Jackson ain't even a journalist- he's just some bellend who tagged on to a gaurdian christmas party one year whilst out drunk , befriended one of the journos and they can't get rid of him- he just sits in the cleaning cupboard with his laptop.
This can very easily be true about Jamie Jackson :lol: :lol:
 
From what I'm reading, I'm starting to feel if Mourinho is appointed, it might be over the objections of some club advisers, possibly Ferguson and Charlton. It might entirely be Woodward's decision (with Glazer blessing).
 
I just hope we get him in the summer, no doubt all this talk will upset van Gaal and his family but even though its just speculation at the moment the papers need to sell and United news guarantee they do. As for Louis he must be delusional to think he has done a good job in his 19 months so far so must surely accept he is on borrowed time. Plus surely it is up to the club to deny these stories, people blaming Jose for leaking what the papers are reporting because they dont like the man but at all other times the blame lies on the reporters when saying stuff they dont agree with. The irony.
 
I think that when you see what Pochettini did at both Southampton and Spurs, you have to wonder what he would do at United. Yet to win anything, so there is always doubt.

As far as other big names are concerned I would take Macinni, Conte, De Boer, and Allegri over Jose. Not because I think they are better, I think they have an appetite for the style of football United fans want to see and I think they would be just as successful, with less baggage. If Jose comes I will support him to the day he leaves, but I don't really want to see the BS PC that he does, I don't want to see a policy of only buying the finished product (and that goes for the other ones I mentioned), and I want to be sitting on the edge of my seat when I watch.

I guess that's where we differ. In my view we've seen the club decline so at this present time it's results which count and the style of football should come second. I honestly believe with Jose, United will get their Mojo back.
 
It's only a done deal if we fail to get in the top 4...

... Right so it's a done fecking deal then isn't it!
 
If I were Juan I'd already have been on the phone to my agent by this stage.
 
So the next poll in caf is going to be

"Will you be happy to finish outside top 4 so that Jose can come in?"
 
I don't feel top four has anything to do with this. United and van Gaal will probably come to a mutual agreement (if they haven't already) to part ways come what may at the end of the season.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/10/jose-mourinho-abroad-premier-league?CMP=share_btn_tw

Well that's a curve ball. Apparently not even preliminary contact between Mourinho and Utd so far, and implied that Van Gaal might not even leave this summer if he sneaks Champions League football.
Not a single source for anything in that, not even a vague 'according to sources', just a load of statements presented as fact based on absolutely nothing...... by Jamie Jackson.
 
Fergies last team won the league by 11 odd points so it certainly was not rubbish, which is why the Moyes era is so baffling. It is also fair to say that because Fergie was a bit tunnel visioned in respect to certain players he never really invested adequately in midfield, so we had an aging back line (bar DDG), and aging midfield and a pretty end of the road attack.

With Jose, he had a prety solid foundation to build on. At Chelsea he brought in the spine of the team in Drogba, Makele, Essien and Czech which pretty much took the team to another level. Each year he then only needed to tweak. If you believe the caf we are shit and therefore Jose has no foundation on which to build. So I doubt he would be a success for many years if that was true. I am in the minority camp that does not think we are shit, I like the balance, but believe we need a new spine (bar DDG). Get the spine and I think we will have many years of success, with or without LVG.

Agree to this. We have a half spine at present. Bring in a new Centre half alongside Smalling and a power house midfield type along with Kane then that spine is pretty much complete.
 
I don't feel top four has anything to do with this. United and van Gaal will probably come to a mutual agreement (if they haven't already) to part ways come what may at the end of the season.

I don't want Mourinho since I believe he'll feck us up big time. And no I never was anti-Mourinho or something like that. However if the decision of us getting top 4 or not depends on getting Mourinho we are in worse managerial shape than I thought. That would be opportunistic mismanagement. LvG is not a better or worse coach nor will he chance whether he gets top 3-6.
 
From what I'm reading, I'm starting to feel if Mourinho is appointed, it might be over the objections of some club advisers, possibly Ferguson and Charlton. It might entirely be Woodward's decision (with Glazer blessing).

That might actually be the case but to be fair anyone who thought it was a good idea to have David fecking Moyes replace Alex Ferguson is probably best not consulted on future managerial appointments anyway.
 
Well they've gotten us 4th place and currently 5th. Maybe half of them need to leave.

Maybe, maybe not. Thing is, all these Mourinho "hittlists" will hurt us more than gain us. And with another bad PL finish I wonder if we are able to attract some decent quality to replace them.
 
I think that when you see what Pochettini did at both Southampton and Spurs, you have to wonder what he would do at United. Yet to win anything, so there is always doubt.

As far as other big names are concerned I would take Macinni, Conte, De Boer, and Allegri over Jose. Not because I think they are better, I think they have an appetite for the style of football United fans want to see and I think they would be just as successful, with less baggage.
You have really no idea, do you?
 
As much as I don't really like Jackson, he does know some stuff, and his report is far more believable that the crap that was printed the other night , where the close friend turned out to be a blabbing Harry Redknapp.

Jackson said we pulled out to sign Kroos and Fabregas, he took a load of stick but he was right.

I'm not saying Jose won't be our next manager, he probably will be IMO, but a strong finish to the season from Van Gaal would change everything.
 
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