Not a good possibility. Cleary not bullshit.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Nah.
Do you think Baba, Kenedy, Pedro and Falcao would want to follow him though?
I guess I have to disagree. Hiring 3 managers in less than 4 years isn't exactly an epitome of longevity.
Longevity is all well and good with a successful manager, do you want to see United loiter in midtable all the time just so someone like Moyes can stay around for years and years?
why isnt there a third option for this poll? Surely theres a lot of posters undecided over this.
You wanted to keep Moyes?
A little out of the loop here - if Di Marzio has said it, does this mean it's happening?
Far too much noise for that now, I think.
If by "it" you mean Di Spazzio talking parboiled horseshit then yeah, it's ON!
Longevity is all well and good with a successful manager, do you want to see United loiter in midtable all the time just so someone like Moyes can stay around for years and years?
You can't foresee success. The nature of this job doesn't change as per what fans demand.If anything,You take calculated risks. Making decisions out of anger/desperation hardly is a step in the right direction.
Why would a club get a urine or blood sample from a manager?
Everyone knows Mourinho's mental anyway
My other, more concerning issue is... why is the guy handling a piss sample with his bare hands?
Surely this contravenes the aseptic policy.
This point and similar ones get brought up quite a lot in these debates. What he did damaged his reputation in some people's eyes, but that's it. Maureen doesn't have the power to permanently damage the reputation of a club like Real Madrid – and the same will be true for us.
What it boils down to is that many simply can't stand him and his antics – which is fair enough. But the idea that these antics are truly damaging to the good name of whatever football club he happens to be working for when he loses it – is unfounded. It doesn't work like that. Maureen is very much an individual: I doubt anyone considered him a representative of Real Madrid when he transgressed most conspicuously – it was him, the individual nutter, who did what he did. And that was the way it was spun in the media too.
I asked this a while back but from the answer I received it seems it must be a straight 'yes' or 'no' - not quite sure why as Jose is not a straightforward appointment - he comes with as much pros as cons imo.
The press are actually starting to claim they know the players that the manager that's not confirmed yet will be bringing with him!You disagreed with firing Moyes then?
I think even a significant proportion of us who voted "Yes" do so with reservations. I know I do.
Falcao, Van Persie and Nani will be his first three signings. Rafael too if he can put the seatbelt on for his flight over without tearing 15 muscles.
Exactly why I haven't voted yet
Hope not! The press officer needs to do her job and lay down the law with the press i.e. no questions allowed speculating about Jose or whomever - it should be strictly about the upcoming game. This sort of thing is too distracting when we're still in the middle of the season. Furthermore, it will make the people at the club look like classless pr**ks if they leave the manager answering shit questions when they know they're seeking someone else to take the job.
Best thing is to be upfront with LVG about the whole thing, and then agree a narrative that the club and LVG can use until the end of the season or whenever they're giving LVG the bullet.
if we are truly after jose, then i'm positive lvg is aware and there's an agreement for him to leave at the end of the season.
I hope so, but increasingly I'm not too sure...
Aye, but I don't think there's anger or desperation here. We clearly need a new manager. We're probably not so creative in the footballing department, so finding a young, upcoming coach who can take himself onto the next stage with us is unlikely. Hiring one of the best and most proven in the business, at a time when this is what we need, is hardly a crazy decision.
No one appointed Fergie in 1986 thinking 'He's a long term appointment'. They thought he was the man for the job we needed, and that's that. I think Mourinho's the man for the job we need.
None at present, because we have an injury crisis in defence and we sold our back up strikers. It was a comment aimed at those critical of Mourinho because of his alleged lack of interest in youth football. Even though United have generally relied on bought players aside from two golden generations fifty years apart -part of the sentimental tendency of certain fans to view everything through the prism of part of the Fergie era (but not the 93/94 team or 2008/2009, nearly all of whom were outside purchases).
Dunno why longevity is brought up repeatedly when the two best club teams around (Bayern and Barcelona) have changed managers quite frequently in recent seasons - to varying degrees of success yes, but success nonetheless. Get the proper players in - ideally under the supervision of a proper evaluator of talent and progression, build up continuity in terms of personnel - especially a core group of players around whom you can plan the future, cultivate and invest in a quality sporting structure with responsibilities split up under specialists instead of dumping everything on the manager, design a blueprint for the club in terms of the medium to long term future. All of that will hold you in good stead in modern football. Adapt to the times or choose to perish - because let's face it, the likelihood of unearthing a Fergie or Wenger type manager who drops anchor is remote, if not downright impossible. This fixation with longevity just for the sake of it will just hold the club back because very few (if any?) top managers have the temperament or disposition to stay at one club for a decade these days, while delivering success to add - which is a prerequisite for longevity at a top club anyway. If José stays for only 3 seasons, so what? Appoint the next best man incharge once he's gone, the likes of Bayern do it without skipping a beat instead of opining for an unrealistic fantasy target. Modern football is just too frantic for long term projections - much rather have top short term 'head coach' appointments with the proper sporting structure in place to back them up, than punts on inferior choices who might wilt under the pressure and fail to deliver in the short term, let alone over 5+ seasons.
They are just winding up LVG.
I did. And I recon we'd be top now this year with Moyes, in such a strange season.
My opinion.
No to the classlessone.
For next press conference I hope LVG will be extremely calm and just say "I'm not going to comment on my position today." No need to go on a long rant about this .... just answer football questions. If there are none, just give injury updates and say something about long balls and good organisation.
Wonder what the players think of Mo coming in? We know Mata won't be thrilled, and as the Spanish contingent is pretty 'cliquey' - I'd be surprised if Dave and Ander are not in his corner. But I do wonder what the non-Spanish players think..
That would be the best thing. Press officer should also speak to him and make sure he doesn't deviate from that narrative.
Wow
I think this Mata stuff is a bit far fetched if I'm honest. Didn't Jose pretty much say himself that it was a choice between having either Mata or Oscar in his side, no room for both and decided to go with Oscar. Here at United we don't have another player in the mould of Mata who'd play that position as well. I think if/when Jose comes in Juan will actually still be here.
Moyes top ahead of Pellegrini, Ranieri, Wenger and Poch. The man who has never been top of any league except the third tier...Cut from the same cloth no doubt.
Well, the club don't have a third option - they either appoint him or they don't.
Agreed. I don't think Mou was overly pleased in losing him, he praised the player, but in the same breath said that he needed players who could also track back and defend more.
Mata didn't act like he was chuffed with being kicked out of Chelsea/deemed not as good as Oscar - so I'm not so sure about that.
Mata also threw some subtle 'shade' at Mo in an interview very early in the season. Can't remember his 'diplomatic' phrasing, but it was discussed pretty extensively elsewhere. Juan is a seemingly nice guy - but he like all footballers has an ego - just hides it very well imo. Doubt he'd easily forget Mourinho's 'slight'..
I hate Van Gaal. But there is no point trying to rewrite history to make a point of how bad Van Gaal is. Moyes was worse. End of story.
But the question concerns our happiness, we can be indifferent. Personally I'm not happy and I'm not unhappy.
Do we really care what Mata thinks? He's the poster boy for the post-Fergie era of big spending for little output.
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