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Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?

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Having spent the last six days digesting the probable Mourinho outcome I'm fine with it.
Bring him in.
 
septic said:
you're crazy

you seriously want us to languish outside the top 4 for another season just because you don't like jose's personality? I don't understand this kind of mentality

when we start winning again everyone is going to love the guy.
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2/3 max seasons of winning to Chelsea-like performance the next? I'd rather not. Whatever the reasons or circumstances, he turned a league-winning team into a team struggling to keep out of the relegation zone, mostly because of his toxic personality. Not only that but I'd rather not see him shit from a great height over our current youth prospects. Maybe winning isn't everything to all of us, if I cringe every time I think of our manager that takes a lot of enjoyment away from supporting for me.
 
Turnip said:
2/3 max seasons of winning to Chelsea-like performance the next? I'd rather not. Whatever the reasons or circumstances, he turned a league-winning team into a team struggling to keep out of the relegation zone, mostly because of his toxic personality. Not only that but I'd rather not see him shit from a great height over our current youth prospects. Maybe winning isn't everything to all of us, if I cringe every time I think of our manager that takes a lot of enjoyment away from supporting for me.
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Sack him at the end of the 2nd season, problem solved. :cool:
 
Red Katie said:
Having spent the last six days digesting the probable Mourinho outcome I'm fine with it.
Bring him in.
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:lol:Bring him in.

I accepted that eventuality when Ancelotti signed for Bayern, but I never hated him so it wasn't too hard. And I really don't understand the hatered, he is tiring with all his whining but that's not hate worthy.
 
dwd said:
It's not like he punched his own fans or anything...
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haha ;)

Clough built a legacy though (for a while...) whereas again I don't see Jose doing that - he doesn't stay for long. Although if you just want a short term fix till he does something stupid and has to be fired then...
 
I've warmed to the idea of jose. Im not sure if thats because it looks like a certainty that he's coming and my biased mind has therefore decided it's a good thing, or whether the actual need for a top manager has become even more apparent since city announced the pep deal, but I was firmly in the 'no' camp a few weeks ago whereas now I wouldn't mind.
My biggest concern though, is that I wonder if he is still a manager that the top players want to play for. A few years ago he was someone that they all wanted to play under, with the odd exception, but I worry that his behaviour over the past few years has alienated him a little bit. If we go head to head with city for a player, for example, is that player going to prefer to play for Pep or Jose?
 
This was always a question of when not if. It's so bloody obvious mourinho has been wet for the job ever since Ferguson announced his retirement, we were just waiting for the club to decide to bring him which is what ultimately seems to be happening now. In truth, we appointed him 3 years too late.
 
Coxy said:
haha ;)

Clough built a legacy though (for a while...) whereas again I don't see Jose doing that - he doesn't stay for long. Although if you just want a short term fix till he does something stupid and has to be fired then...
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Agree about the legacy part, I guess we will have to wait and see if he ever achieves that though I think Wenger may be the last of a dying breed in that respect.

I think Clough and Jose are quite similar though, personality wise. Do you not think?
 
dwd said:
Agree about the legacy part, I guess we will have to wait and see if he ever achieves that though I think Wenger may be the last of a dying breed in that respect.

I think Clough and Jose are quite similar though, personality wise. Do you not think?
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I can see what you're getting at - but hell no. One is a cnut - the other was a lovable rogue.

Clough was charismatic - Jose is charismatic at times for all of the wrong reasons.

Don't get me wrong he is a great manager - just as an outsider (me) I don't see him fitting in with United. Then again Van Gaal is so shit that it's worth the risk!
 
JPRouve said:
:lol:Bring him in.

I accepted that eventuality when Ancelotti signed for Bayern, but I never hated him so it wasn't too hard. And I really don't understand the hatered, he is tiring with all his whining but that's not hate worthy.
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Don't have the will to fight it and it looks like the sensible :D option right now. We need a proven man in charge and when he loses his mind, on to the next.
 
Coxy said:
I can see what you're getting at - but hell no. One is a cnut - the other was a lovable rogue.

Clough was charismatic - Jose is charismatic at times for all of the wrong reasons.

Don't get me wrong he is a great manager - just as an outsider (me) I don't see him fitting in with United. Then again Van Gaal is so shit that it's worth the risk!
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Both of them would walk over anyone, even close friends in order to get success. That's what I'm getting at.
 
Turnip said:
2/3 max seasons of winning to Chelsea-like performance the next? I'd rather not. Whatever the reasons or circumstances, he turned a league-winning team into a team struggling to keep out of the relegation zone, mostly because of his toxic personality. Not only that but I'd rather not see him shit from a great height over our current youth prospects. Maybe winning isn't everything to all of us, if I cringe every time I think of our manager that takes a lot of enjoyment away from supporting for me.
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Yes, this is exactly what happen with Mourinho every single time he went there. Let's ignore first stint at Chelsea where they remained competitive for years after he left even with a joker like Grant in charge, or Real Madrid job where they won CL the season after he left. He ruins clubs, you know. Completely destroys them, it's only ashes after he goes. Poisonous.
 
Sarni said:
Yes, this is exactly what happen with Mourinho every single time he went there. Let's ignore first stint at Chelsea where they remained competitive for years after he left even with a joker like Grant in charge, or Real Madrid job where they won CL the season after he left. He ruins clubs, you know. Completely destroys them, it's only ashes after he goes. Poisonous.
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Best post so far
 
Summit said:
I actually don't remember this. :lol: When was it?
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Sarni said:
Yes, this is exactly what happen with Mourinho every single time he went there. Let's ignore first stint at Chelsea where they remained competitive for years after he left even with a joker like Grant in charge, or Real Madrid job where they won CL the season after he left. He ruins clubs, you know. Completely destroys them, it's only ashes after he goes. Poisonous.
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Good post Sarni :lol:

I'm not a fan but I can accept it's what we need right now. Or risk falling further, and further behind the rest.
 
Sarni said:
Yes, this is exactly what happen with Mourinho every single time he went there. Let's ignore first stint at Chelsea where they remained competitive for years after he left even with a joker like Grant in charge, or Real Madrid job where they won CL the season after he left. He ruins clubs, you know. Completely destroys them, it's only ashes after he goes. Poisonous.
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Good post. Even at Inter he was under a mandate to ensure short term success. The problems at that club started with the short term vision of the board, not the manager
 
Coxy said:
I can see what you're getting at - but hell no. One is a cnut - the other was a lovable rogue.

Clough was charismatic - Jose is charismatic at times for all of the wrong reasons.

Don't get me wrong he is a great manager - just as an outsider (me) I don't see him fitting in with United. Then again Van Gaal is so shit that it's worth the risk!
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I don't think there's anyone like Clough. You just never knew which way Clough would turn. Mourinho is a little predictable, and nowhere near as sharp or clever with the put-downs. A Clough barb was often witty. Jose can be just nasty.
 
devil in me said:
I've warmed to the idea of jose. Im not sure if thats because it looks like a certainty that he's coming and my biased mind has therefore decided it's a good thing, or whether the actual need for a top manager has become even more apparent since city announced the pep deal, but I was firmly in the 'no' camp a few weeks ago whereas now I wouldn't mind.
My biggest concern though, is that I wonder if he is still a manager that the top players want to play for. A few years ago he was someone that they all wanted to play under, with the odd exception, but I worry that his behaviour over the past few years has alienated him a little bit. If we go head to head with city for a player, for example, is that player going to prefer to play for Pep or Jose?
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For me its like being asked if I want to wear a colostomy bag.

The initial answer is a definite no. But if you think about it, come to terms with the fact you have a serious illness and think about the alternatives, you are likely to conclude that actually you do quite want one after all. Its not something you feel like shouting from the rooftops about, but you are looking forward to being able to go out in public and get back to something like normal.

Mourinho is our colostomy bag.
 
Adebesi said:
For me its like being asked if I want to wear a colostomy bag.

The initial answer is a definite no. But if you think about it, come to terms with the fact you have a serious illness and think about the alternatives, you are likely to conclude that actually you do quite want one after all. Its not something you feel like shouting from the rooftops about, but you are looking forward to being able to go out in public and get back to something like normal.

Mourinho is our colostomy bag.
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Shitcoat is our shitbag.
 
Adebesi said:
For me its like being asked if I want to wear a colostomy bag.

The initial answer is a definite no. But if you think about it, come to terms with the fact you have a serious illness and think about the alternatives, you are likely to conclude that actually you do quite want one after all. Its not something you feel like shouting from the rooftops about, but you are looking forward to being able to go out in public and get back to something like normal.

Mourinho is our colostomy bag.
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:lol:

But also yes.
 
El-Manos said:
This was always a question of when not if. It's so bloody obvious mourinho has been wet for the job ever since Ferguson announced his retirement, we were just waiting for the club to decide to bring him which is what ultimately seems to be happening now. In truth, we appointed him 3 years too late.
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It was obvious before that. When his Madrid team knocked us out of the CL, SAF looked like a man who knew that was his last shot at another CL trophy and José came out for his post game interview talking about the best team lost etc, bigging up United and SAF, that was the moment I knew the great man was retiring.
 
Rado_N said:
It was obvious before that. When his Madrid team knocked us out of the CL, SAF looked like a man who knew that was his last shot at another CL trophy and José came out for his post game interview talking about the best team lost etc, bigging up United and SAF, that was the moment I knew the great man was retiring.
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It was the most transparent charm-offensive ever.
 
Adebesi said:
For me its like being asked if I want to wear a colostomy bag.

The initial answer is a definite no. But if you think about it, come to terms with the fact you have a serious illness and think about the alternatives, you are likely to conclude that actually you do quite want one after all. Its not something you feel like shouting from the rooftops about, but you are looking forward to being able to go out in public and get back to something like normal.

Mourinho is our colostomy bag.
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The worst thing about Mourinho is the Crohnies he'll bring with him.
 
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