As long as it's not Giggs, even you would be an option Steve.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Can't believe Hoddle talking sense. Absolutely correct. Why are some of the other journalists so keen to see Giggs under that much pressure and more likely than not failing? Maybe they don't like him?
Maybe they don't. Maybe journalist don't like people who try to take out court injunctions?Can't believe Hoddle talking sense. Absolutely correct. Why are some of the other journalists so keen to see Giggs under that much pressure and more likely than not failing? Maybe they don't like him?
You're probably right there.
Apparently Mourinho wants a fresh start next season, where he can have a full pre season and transfer window so he can do everything properly, instead of trying to save this season against the odds with the current squad and problems with it.
One thing I don't like about this is United and/or Mendes/Mo letting this slip in the media that we've talked to him or hired him behind LVG's back. Whatever you think of Louis he's been decent towards the club - I don't think he deserves to be undermined so publicly. He's been dealing with it from class of 92 all during his tenure, and now this from Mourinho - someone whom he seemingly has a good relationship with. Can't forget he said Mourinho was one of the first people he texted with the news that he would be United manager.
I know people want LVG out and of course his results so far this season are not acceptable - but I don't believe a bit of basic decency can't be extended to him?
Hoping our players don't get caught up in this shit and just concentrate on what they need to do.
I know people want LVG out and of course his results so far this season are not acceptable - but I don't believe a bit of basic decency can't be extended to him?
Hoping our players don't get caught up in this shit and just concentrate on what they need to do.
Plus Mo looked like he was having a nervous breakdown so he definitely needs some time away.
Well, the difference is he's Pep Guardiola!
Agree, though LVG himself was hired in similar circumstances so he can't really complain too much.
We should be hating Pep for going to City. And Klopp for going to our biggest rivals. Not a potential future manager. The unconditional love for the aforementioned two is ridiculous.
But we knew nothing about this until Moyes was fired - that's the difference. LVG knows how these things work, but he never publicly let it be known out there that he had talks with us whilst Moyes was still here. Especially coming from someone he considers a friend, it must be particularly hurtful.
None of them with a CV remotely close to Mourinho's. In Pellegrini's case, he's currently taking a vastly superior squad to ours to just a few points above us. No thanks.
We'll all have a chuckle if he isn't coming to us.
Nothing new the last 24 hours?
Is it still MourONho?
Is it still MourONho?
Roberto Mancini also out-mind-gamed Sir Alex when he conceeded the title multiple times before that Aguerrrroooo moment, maybe we should consider him.
He's stated that he wants to work in the PL. Bet your sweet ass it's on!
Tbh I would be happy with Giggs taking over.
I ruled myself out at the same time as Rodgers did, chief.
Ed's not listening to you
Ah sweet.
Was up in the mountains skiing yesterday, so i wasn't able to stay up to date on the rumours.
Not many options then, since Pep is at City, Klopp just recently started working for Liverpool, Wenger will be manager for Arsenal till he dies, and he won't go back to Chelsea...
Can't see Mourinho take over Newcastle or West Brom, so i guess the only option left is United.
Be careful what you wish for.
Mourinho is poisonous.
Mourinho is poisonous.
Certainly less so than Moyes or Van Gaal has been to United
Can't be as poisonous as the people running your club. Be honest.
Yeah I would be ok with that as well but that does suppose that Mourinho gets us right back to the top because if didn't and Poch was successful at Spurs, would be actually want to come here? However, I do think Mourinho would be a success so hopefully not an issue.
The academy is producing what they are supposed to be producing. It's pipe dream that we could produce first choice players every year from the academy.
For what is worth, having players like OShea, Fletcher, Evans negate the need to buy expensive squad players that most likely are not willing to sit on the bench for period of time. Look at Blind, a versatile squad player that can cover several positions. We cough up 14 million for him. OShea did that job and we didn't have to spent any money for him
Woodward likes trophy players and trophy managers. That's his style. He is a football neophyte who is impressed by big names.
Mourinho as the next boss has got Woodward's fingerprints all over it. In the short term, it would buy Woodward time........But is it really a solution to United's problems? The suspicion is that Mourinho would just bring more of the same.
If United want to compete with Guardiola, if they want to make an appointment that has the power to unnerve City and create an intensity of feeling that Guardiola cannot match at the Etihad, there is a solution available that is a lot simpler than Mourinho.
........The solution is right under their noses. Give the job to Ryan Giggs and give it to him now. Not on a caretaker basis, either. Give him a four-and-half-year contract and let him breathe new life into a club ossifying under the yoke of Van Gaal and being taken backwards by the impressionable incompetence of Woodward.
......Mourinho would be a risk, especially after the way he lost the power to motivate his Chelsea players. He is one of the greats of the game but if it all turned sour for him at a club where he was revered, it could happen at United.
......So give it to Giggs. Rescue the spirit of the club before you do anything else. Make him the manager....
......United should think about roles for Gary and Phil Neville, whose talents currently employed at Valencia
Oxford United boss Michael Appleton, another United alumnus, should be given a senior coaching role
........They can take the lazy option with Mourinho and keep going down the road that has led them away from the summit. Or they can take the bold option with Giggs, the option that talks more of romance than commercialism, and go back to their roots.
Mourinho won't bring that back. He can't. It's not in his DNA. He goes into a club and stays for three years. When he has gone, the only legacy he leaves is scorched earth. If United want to become even more like every other team in England, they'll go for him.
There's so much that is wrong with Holt's article, it's hard to know where to start. It's probably best not to write down my opinion on Holt but suffice to say he is poor, certainly based on what I've seen including the last few non-United pieces he's written which have had me wanting to pull out my own eye balls! They frankly stank the place out so I'm not sure he's even written this from his normal ABU standpoint.
It strikes me as a very agenda written piece. He has either done this at the behest of the Giggs management team or this is another demonstration of the influence that the City owners seem (to me at least) to have over the British press of late with all of the "look how great City are" or "look how poorly run everything is at United" nonsense.
I've left in some of the article above to reference because those particular points stuck out for me.
Woodward likes trophy players and managers as if that is a bad thing. Which team doesn't? Haven't City just gone for Pep?
The suspicion that Mourinho would bring more of the same? He is not the same as LVG or Moyes. He is a winner and a recent winner too. How is that more of the same compared to what we have seen over the last few years?
We don't want to unnerve City or compete with Guardiola, we want to get back to winning ways again. It isn't just a case of competing with the bluenoses. It's everyone. None of that "Welcome to Manchester Mr Tevez" nonsense from us I hope.
I don't feel as strongly against Giggs as manager one day as some but a four and a half year contract to a completely untried manager.....wtf?
It went sour for Mourinho at Chelsea so it could at United. Really.....no s#it!!! It could go sour for any manager. Look at LVG. It could go sour for Mourinho but not Giggs apparently, despite Mourinho having won just about everything......bonkers!
Rescue the spirit of the club.....no idea what that is even meant to mean. We're Manchester United! You only have to listen to the away fans and see Jones and Rojo and Carrick in the crowd celebrating to know how our spirit is. More nonsense.
The most irritating part is that we can take the lazy option of employing Mourinho according to Holt but no suggestion that City employing Pep is just as lazy. The continued double standards of a cack piece of writing make me angry. I don't see him championing Mike Summerbee or Viera or even Kompany as player/manager, just for the sheer romanticism of it all. Mourinho apparently can't take us back to the summit. Can't! Our history and the "romanticism" of it all is built on many things but picking up silverware ranks pretty highly on the list. I believe that Mourinho can get us back winning again. I think Holt does too which seems to worry him for some reason.
Seems to me that there is a real fear of us building another dynasty. The fact it's being driven along by the supposedly unbiased press is a concern.
Mourinho as the next boss has got Woodward's fingerprints all over it. In the short term, it would buy Woodward time........But is it really a solution to United's problems? The suspicion is that Mourinho would just bring more of the same.
If United want to compete with Guardiola, if they want to make an appointment that has the power to unnerve City and create an intensity of feeling that Guardiola cannot match at the Etihad, there is a solution available that is a lot simpler than Mourinho.
........The solution is right under their noses. Give the job to Ryan Giggs and give it to him now. Not on a caretaker basis, either. Give him a four-and-half-year contract and let him breathe new life into a club ossifying under the yoke of Van Gaal and being taken backwards by the impressionable incompetence of Woodward.
......Mourinho would be a risk, especially after the way he lost the power to motivate his Chelsea players. He is one of the greats of the game but if it all turned sour for him at a club where he was revered, it could happen at United.
......So give it to Giggs. Rescue the spirit of the club before you do anything else. Make him the manager....
......United should think about roles for Gary and Phil Neville, whose talents currently employed at Valencia
Oxford United boss Michael Appleton, another United alumnus, should be given a senior coaching role
........They can take the lazy option with Mourinho and keep going down the road that has led them away from the summit. Or they can take the bold option with Giggs, the option that talks more of romance than commercialism, and go back to their roots.
Mourinho won't bring that back. He can't. It's not in his DNA. He goes into a club and stays for three years. When he has gone, the only legacy he leaves is scorched earth. If United want to become even more like every other team in England, they'll go for him.
There's so much that is wrong with Holt's article, it's hard to know where to start. It's probably best not to write down my opinion on Holt but suffice to say he is poor, certainly based on what I've seen including the last few non-United pieces he's written which have had me wanting to pull out my own eye balls! They frankly stank the place out so I'm not sure he's even written this from his normal ABU standpoint.
It strikes me as a very agenda written piece. He has either done this at the behest of the Giggs management team or this is another demonstration of the influence that the City owners seem (to me at least) to have over the British press of late with all of the "look how great City are" or "look how poorly run everything is at United" nonsense.
I've left in some of the article above to reference because those particular points stuck out for me.
Woodward likes trophy players and managers as if that is a bad thing. Which team doesn't? Haven't City just gone for Pep?
The suspicion that Mourinho would bring more of the same? He is not the same as LVG or Moyes. He is a winner and a recent winner too. How is that more of the same compared to what we have seen over the last few years?
We don't want to unnerve City or compete with Guardiola, we want to get back to winning ways again. It isn't just a case of competing with the bluenoses. It's everyone. None of that "Welcome to Manchester Mr Tevez" nonsense from us I hope.
I don't feel as strongly against Giggs as manager one day as some but a four and a half year contract to a completely untried manager.....wtf?
It went sour for Mourinho at Chelsea so it could at United. Really.....no s#it!!! It could go sour for any manager. Look at LVG. It could go sour for Mourinho but not Giggs apparently, despite Mourinho having won just about everything......bonkers!
Rescue the spirit of the club.....no idea what that is even meant to mean. We're Manchester United! You only have to listen to the away fans and see Jones and Rojo and Carrick in the crowd celebrating to know how our spirit is. More nonsense.
The most irritating part is that we can take the lazy option of employing Mourinho according to Holt but no suggestion that City employing Pep is just as lazy. The continued double standards of a cack piece of writing make me angry. I don't see him championing Mike Summerbee or Viera or even Kompany as player/manager, just for the sheer romanticism of it all. Mourinho apparently can't take us back to the summit. Can't! Our history and the "romanticism" of it all is built on many things but picking up silverware ranks pretty highly on the list. I believe that Mourinho can get us back winning again. I think Holt does too which seems to worry him for some reason.
Seems to me that there is a real fear of us building another dynasty. The fact it's being driven along by the supposedly unbiased press is a concern.
Great post, Red.
Aside from anything else, it's only City's people (who have a history of doing fan-pleasing things just to wind up United/its supporters) and the media who really want a tit-for-tat rivalry with City; our aims should be far more specific to our own needs rather than just playing "who's the best?" with rivals like them, Liverpool etc etc.
Aside from anything else, it's only City's people (who have a history of doing fan-pleasing things just to wind up United/its supporters) and the media who really want a tit-for-tat rivalry with City; our aims should be far more specific to our own needs rather than just playing "who's the best?" with rivals like them, Liverpool etc etc.
"United should think about roles for Gary and Phil Neville, whose talents currently employed at Valencia"
That line alone is enough to make people see he's taking the piss.
That line alone is enough to make people see he's taking the piss.
Is that a great post?
I get called a WUM but there's a load of you here who genuinely seem to believe that the press want United to fall down the table so...?
Step 1. Subtly influence the massive United corporation to hire Giggs
Step 2. United fall down
Step 3. ?
Step 4. Profit.
It's gotten to the point where some of you genuinely think there is a massive conspiracy by the British press that is hoping to mastermind our downfall.
I get called a WUM but there's a load of you here who genuinely seem to believe that the press want United to fall down the table so...?
Step 1. Subtly influence the massive United corporation to hire Giggs
Step 2. United fall down
Step 3. ?
Step 4. Profit.
It's gotten to the point where some of you genuinely think there is a massive conspiracy by the British press that is hoping to mastermind our downfall.
United in disarray sells more paper (or clicks nowadays) than anything else in sports.
the OTT rhetoric!Why not ask actual Porto, Chelski, Madrid, Inter fans...
They all worship him. Says a lot IMHO.
Why not ask actual Porto, Chelski, Madrid, Inter fans...
They all worship him. Says a lot IMHO.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...drid-fans-boo-jose-mourinho-before-final-game
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ring-fans-booing-Jose-Mourinho-losing-it.html
err that's before he's left.
Our fans have even booed SAF teams in the past.
ps. if we're making points based on single news stories, then this may help as an example:
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/real-...f-the-man-they-want-to-be-their-next-manager/
Sorry for only using examples of times when he's actually managing a team and being booed.
Chelsea fans in December:
Real Madrid and their crazy fans:
http://www.givemesport.com/386043-real-madrid-fans-chant-mourinhos-name
Chelsea fans in December:
Real Madrid and their crazy fans:
http://www.givemesport.com/386043-real-madrid-fans-chant-mourinhos-name
Yeah you're right, I give examples of the stadium booing the clubs and you give me examples of a dozen people who still want him there.
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