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BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Valencia if they get some serious cash investment would be his only option in Spain really and his attitude and behavior didn't wash with the Spanish people or press over there. He seems to like the snidey, trashy Press we have over here and they like him and the headlines his dramatics create.
Hard to tell with Serie A, the Milan teams are in a trough at the minute, Juventus just got a new manager, hard to see Napoli trading one of their own for José.
I honestly believe we're his only viable option, he needs us and our financial power to give him a platform to show everyone he hasn't lost the plot despite his descent into madness at Chelsea this season. No way Mendes and Mourinho don't make this happen with the opportunities it will afford them. If that's a good thing or a bad thing for us we'll soon find out but I have grave concerns about the conflict of interests with Mourinho, Mendes and our money.
To be fair, you can hardly call a video of one of their own reporters directly asking Jose a question "recycled bs".
You know what I mean and I was talking about the yellow info bar , these days they are far from a reliable source as much as they used to be.
Tbf, I did enjoy their recent LVG documentary: The Hollow Clown.
I'm sure Mourinho has undertaken some significant counselling for his melt down at Chelsea and hopefully resolved whatever demons were plaguing him into behaviours like with Dr Eve. He is approached aged mature man status now so his ranting doesnt look cool anymore.
I'm hoping we get a Mourinho motivated and stoked with all his prior experience, knowledge and skills but with a dash of the Ranieri statesman like aura.
It would suit him well as he set about hopefully his final job at a major club... 10 years at United to retire as the greatest foreign manager ever to work on then English Premier league.
I'm hoping we get a Mourinho motivated and stoked with all his prior experience, knowledge and skills but with a dash of the Ranieri statesman like aura.
It would suit him well as he set about hopefully his final job at a major club... 10 years at United to retire as the greatest foreign manager ever to work on then English Premier league.
It'll be his toughest gig yet. Overhaul of tactics,squad and sign 3-4 new players. He never had to work with a squad like this with very little experience of winning titles and such low morale. I still think it will be a tough first year for him.
You make it sound like Porto, Chelsea, Real were winning regularly before he arrived...
How many title winners were in his first Chelsea team which also had a overhaul of tactics and lots of new players?
Carvalho - Portuguese league
Ferreria - Portuguese league
Makelele - La Liga
Robben - Eredivisie
Kezman - Eredivisie
We have De Gea, Smalling, Valencia, Schweinsteiger, Rooney and it looks like potentially Ibrahimovic who have won far more
And Inter hadn't been past the CL quarter finals...
Well, apparently Rooney & Carrick have maybe won the title once or twice, whilst De Gea hasn't.
Rooney, Carrick, Smalling, Valencia, DDG, BFS, Young, Mata, Jones have all won major honors in their careers. And low morale because of the poor seasons under Moyes and now LVG. It is very plausible that could change with Mourinho's appointment except for Mata perhaps. Just as it would likely lift everyone if SAF came out of retirement to manage them next season as well.
And tough first year? Yes, just as it would be for any manager taking over. If anything, you would want the most capable manager to take that position because he would be more likely than anyone overcome this tough year. So, who out there available is the most capable manager? Jose Mourinho that's who.
Well, Mourinho doesn't come across as someone who'd run away from the challenge of managing us.
seems an eternity till Sunday....
I think Jose is far too competitive to enjoy PSG.
The Premier League of the next few years is shaping up to be one of the most competitive leagues in modern football history. His main rival for best manager of this generation Guardiola is at City. Wenger still at Arsenal, Klopp and Conte now in the league as well. The man truly, truly believes that he is a special one. I don't see him turning down the ultimate chance to prove it.
I agree completely. Not long ago, Mourinho spoke of his frustration with La Liga, as Real Madrid only played a few meaningful league games per season. How many such games do PSG play? The French league is the antithesis of competiveness. There is no parody whatsoever. No offense to PSG supporters and/or fans of the French league, but it really is a bit of a joke. Mourinho would be bored to bits in France. Moreover, it would be a thankless job. If he won the league and swept the domestic cups, it wouldn't enhance his reputation at all, as such victories would be expected. If he didn't win the Champions League, which is a difficult task, he would be seen as a failure. It would be much like Pep's time with Bayern Munich - in reality, it did little to enhance his reputation. Of course, Jose has also clearly spoken of his love for the Premier League and his desire to stay in England. Except as a last resort, I just can't see PSG being attractive to him.
United, on the other hand, is tailor made for Jose at this point. He's always spoken with (in my opinion) genuine admiration and respect for the club. He would be joining an organization with a rich history, an iconic stadium, a global fan base, and an extremely healthy budget. The club has floundered badly over the past few seasons, but is not beyond repair. Due to the appointments of Moyes and Van Gaal, he'd be somewhat insulated from direct comparisons to the Sir Alex era. He would be confident in his ability to return United to the top, and would relish the plaudits that would follow if he did so. His reputation would absolutely be bolstered if he could bring success back to Old Trafford. He would be handsomely paid, and he would find great professional satisfaction in testing himself against the other top Managers in the league. Finally, it would give him an opportunity to put down roots and stay with the club for a longer period of time - something which both he and the club likely desire. The stars have aligned on this, so to speak.
Precisely. The only reason he wouldn't strut himself into old Trafford is if we didn't sign him at all.
1. He's strong as an Ox. And he's not slow either. See how well the likes of Giroud and Pelle have done? They'd be clear improvements over what we have. Ibra is twice the footballer.
2. And if we compliment the Ibra signing with 2 really quick players? Yes we lack pace but it's not like every squad has to be full of electric pace. Psg did fine with Ibra. Bayern do fine with Lewandowski. That's because they ensure they have enough pace on the squad and the guys who aren't rapid are top class in other ways as those two are. Let go of the players who don't make up for their lack of physicality and pace by other attributes, because Ibra definitely does.
I can't help but agree with this. It would be even worse if Rooney stays and we have to fit both of them in the starting XI.
The idea of a 35 year old target man, who has never played in the PL, to lead our already slow and ponderous attack doesn't sit very well me. I have a feeling that he would only be a slightly better version of the worst version of Falcao we saw with us last season.
Also, I am not a huge fan of this 'me, me, me' attitude. I have a special hatred for people who refer themselves in the third person. The idea of Mourinho (who I also want now because of our constant feck-ups) and him for us is very unpalatable.
Nothing will happen on Sunday either.
I want a pacy striker upfront especially if we keep shoehorning Rooney into the starting 11 which I think we will. Not many top drawer ones available though.
Alternatively there are people, not United fans or anyone with an agenda, who are being employed in a professional capacity to oversee certain aspects of the employment of Jose Mourinho and who can't keep their gobs shut.
Ducker is also saying the agreement is there - that's as local and as informed as it gets re the press.
Seems so. He should borrow City's "We're not really here" flag for the occasion.
Am I the only one who sees that we could sign any pacey striker going, but if we don't have the players behind him to play him in then it's completely pointless.
Martial and Rashford are pacey but how many times a game do they get in behind teams? Hardly ever because our style of play is so slow and methodical that teams can get two lines of defence prepared before we get near the goal.
Exactly. It will take another week or so most likely. I believe that we signed a pre-agreement with Jose and will be officially signed after that announcement. People who expected LVG to be sacked in the last couple of weeks were just daft
I personally love the Cup. There was a time when it was even bigger than the league. Whether you like it or not those days are gone. The prestige of the cup is nowhere close to what it used to be. Do you think the club would swap a FA Cup win for 4th place and in league and a spot in the CL? Of course they would.
If we don't change the manager, even signing a 25yr old Ibra won't help us.
I know where you're getting that from...still reticent to put any faith in it.
Ducker not the authority on Utd (although not the worst) Danny Taylor still remains the best we have from the British press.
Has Danny boy said anything of the sort re. Mourinho?
Yep. And that lack of top notch alternatives is the biggest problem for United, as things stand - it's easier to find a pacy wide attacker than a quick, top striker. Zlatan is probably the only Top 5 striker we can realistically sign. The Top 2 of Suárez and Lewandowski aren't leaving Barcelona and Bayern Munich for United. Aubameyang fits the bill in terms of being rapid, and in his prime - but he's in a better football team, and has previously stated a desire to play in La Liga. Higuaín isn't quicker than Zlatan, and will be a bigger impediment to Rashford's progression. And so forth with Agüero, Benzema, Costa and other unattainable top options.
We aren't going to transfer Ibrahimović in a vacuum where all ideal options are available, but in a competitive market where United's name as a successful and stable football club has taken a battering under Moyes, and now Van Gaal. Mourinho is one of the biggest managerial names around, and that carries extra cache, but like United - his reputation has been slightly sullied. With all of that in mind, Zlatan fits the profile of what we would need over the next 1-2 seasons - in terms of his productivity, being an anomaly and taking his game to a higher level in his 30s - which is rather counter-intuitive, experience, persona and arrogance - which we sorely lack as a team and on individual level, and age for being a 2 year bridge.
Rashford will probably be 20 by the time Zlatan is done at United - and that's still baby years for someone aspiring to be a productive starter at a big club. Then you can decide whether to go give him a fair crack of the whip as the incumbent starter, or move Martial up front and acquire a left winger/ inside forward, or target someone at the top end of the market (due to lack of progression from Rashford) - because if it all goes well, United will be back on its knees and an attractive proposition for the top players. It would be unwise to put the cart before the horse, and pin our hope on the lad, because not a lot of contemporary big clubs expect an 18 year old to lead the line, unless said player is a generational talent (which I'm not convinced Rashford is).
Hopefully, Rooney's role is progressively diminished over the season, and we surround Zlatan with an abundance of speed (Martial is one-third of the solution, and a great base to build upon).
I think the old Wembley Stadium was special as well. The new Wembley is nice but to me it is just a big stadium. The old one was iconic. That walk out of the tunnel, the noise hitting the players. Pity they couldn't have built it to the same style but with better facilities and views. I miss the twin towers.
A "big surprise" like us winning the FA Cup for the first time in 12 years? Or an even bigger surprise like us winning 19-0 against Bournemouth tonight???
Yeah, I agree with all of that. Even though he isn't my 1st preference, we can't get anyone better and given his age and quality, he will be a good signing for a year or 2 after which we are hopefully in a better position to acquire better players or have rashford ready to take over. Ibra is built for the PL anyways, I don't see his age being a problem at all given his absolutely incredible quality in other areas.
We have a ready made one available in Martial; not top drawer yet, but will be one day. I know that all of us like him on the left and he kind of owns that position; however, our striker conundrum can be solved by bringing in someone who can operate on the left and moving Martial to the center. Too bad that Depay has failed and Januzaj hasn't progressed from his first season, or we wouldn't be talking about this.
There are many top left wingers available that we can get either. I also hope we haven't given up on Memphis or januzaj and give them time to succeed here.
The "Big surprise" line is just the paper covering their backs. As long as they chuck in these sorts of phrases, they are never credible and can appear to go out on a limb on anything. Not sure why its worthy having the A Bola update in the thread title, its a nothing piece.
Woodie will pull the Neymar transfer for us..
How about Reus?
Dybala for the striker position?
Won't Madrid want a new toy in Aubameyang, which will free Benzema for us?
There has to be other options.
Yep.
Especially if he wins the FA cup. We hardly going to end up sacking him the next day.
The rules have changed about strikers and look at the best teams in the world currently, your traditional striker is much more than someone who just plays down the middle. The expectation is they can play anywhere across the front three dependant on what or where the other two are doing. The pool is shallow for traditional strikers cause they are no longer a requirement. I have no interest in Zlatan and the circus that comes with him. Also I have interest in paying him 300k a week, for yet again a player that's at the end of his career, when the Marial's et al and worth the risk.
Can we stop buying players based on reputation and more the young'ish players that are also wanted by the other top clubs.
No chance we get Neymar. Reus won't move either. Dybala specifically chose Juve as he didn't want to move out of Italy. Benz is an interesting one, could be doable but Perez loves him so I don't see them selling.Woodie will pull the Neymar transfer for us..
How about Reus?
Dybala for the striker position?
Won't Madrid want a new toy in Aubameyang, which will free Benzema for us?
There has to be other options.
That is spot on, and why I don't want him here. If we plan to play 433 - which requires the front three to be fluid - I can't see him being very good.
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