BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

[Maradona10]

Wow, only? How many season tickets is the maximum, like 50000?

Club expects to sell 50-55k. There used to be a waiting list, now its gone. Most people renew in the last week or last day. This year numbers are lower than they should be hence the deadline is extended.
Might see a quick signing too,to appease the fans. N amount of protest will have an effect that is similar to underselling season tickets. This is the real reason i am confident we will change the manager. Everyone knows who the major number of united fans want, If th club fails to deliver, then god help everyone.

 

[Maradona10]

United have around 55,000 season ticket holders. Do ye honestly believe that 51,000 of them arent renewing? Fans that have had tickets for years? Especially with all the rumours of Mourinho coming in?

Either whoever wrote that is a blatent liar or its simply because holders have another month to renew. Why ye are even entertaining that rubbish is beyond me.

They have a month to renew but the club has data and the sales are not what they should be. Do you think 51 k people will renew on the final day? The trend in comparison from previous seasons would be worrying the club. If LVG stays there will be less optimism in fans and some will not renew. It will be a slap in the face of ed woodward. He cant put bums on seats, which was never a problem for united.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

This is one excuse united fans over using, new to club need to find his feet etc.

Lukaku storms the league in his first year, Costa ditto, mata on his first chelsea stint, Hazzard, Aguerro, even the coaches hits the ground running.

We are being too lenient, we give players like rafael 5 years and probably will give him morw if he's not sold. We waited bloody years for rooney and we still go with the same let's try him in midfielder.

Sometimes i dont know if we're that gallant of a fans or just plain dumb

Except that for every one of the players you mentioned there's a David silva, David De Gea and of course Cristiano Ronaldo etc. Players adept at different rates and the premier league is one of the hardest leagues to adapt to, I feel like if everyone had your attitude we would buy and sell 10 players each year and they would likely suffer the same as most of our players have this year. There's also something in football where the team helps to bring out the best in players, for 3 seasons we have had a group of individuals on the pitch, when we become a team with coherent tactics and a clear vision those players will improve dramatically. Football is never black and white but in my opinion the best things come to those that wait.

 

[Petr1]

We tried that with Moyes and it didn't work out

I believe Moyes let himself down by bringing his own coaches, which he was completely entitled to. The club was going trough major changes in the administration(SAF and Gill) and removing the core of the coaching staff, Muelensteen and Phelan simply removed to much continuity. He didnt prepare to take over a club that needed restructuring

 

[christinaa]

I believe Moyes let himself down by bringing his own coaches, which he was completely entitled to. The club was going trough major changes in the administration(SAF and Gill) and removing the core of the coaching staff, Muelensteen and Phelan simply removed to much continuity. He didnt prepare to take over a club that needed restructuring

Very very true words these!

 

[sunama]

Regarding ticket sales, here's how I view things:
Moyes arrives.
Year1 (pre season): ticket sales should've been high based on previous season's title winning season. and people wanted to see Moyes' MUFC.
LVG arrives
Year2 (pre season): ticket sales should've been slightly lower BUT due to new manager arriving, interest would've been high.
LVG Continues.
Year3 (pre season): ticket sales should've been slightly lower due to 4th place finish, but still big sales should've been expected because LVG was talking about winning the title in the upcoming sesaon and playing better football.
LVG may continue or Jose may arrive
Year4 (right now): after the current season of terrible/boring football and the 4th place trophy target, ticket sales should fall, because LVG has made it clear now that 4th place is his ambition and we can't attract big players.
I think if Jose arrives, there will be a huge surge of interest (and ticket sales).

The truth is that our brand of football has been getting progressively worse and due to the boring/losing/drawing, some fans are getting turned off. Hardcore fans will remain, but the light-weights may stop following MUFC.

 

[Jazz]

To be fair on Giggs (not many on here are really) I think this would be a pretty good opportunity to gain more experience. Especially under Mourinho, a guy who actually knows how to win the league in England. I'm definitely not saying that we should force him onto Jose if he comes. But if I were Giggs in this scenario I'd definitely be trying to align myself with him and garner a role close to the top to gain more managerial experience.

I'd have been much happier if Giggs was being groomed these last three/four years under Mourinho than what has transpired under Van Gaal.

Wouldn't work. Mourinho wouldn't be able to trust someone waiting to take over his 'job' - if indeed Mourinho is the manager. Hell, I wouldn't trust Giggs. The situation is too uncomfortable.

Moreover, Giggs has learnt enough as an assistant imho. What he needs now is to put into practice what he's learnt. He needs to understand what it feels like to be 100% responsible for a team. You can't learn that by sitting by someone's side for years - you need to test yourself or you'll never be ready for management. And not because LVG hasn't worked out for us, doesn't mean he has nothing to teach Giggs. It all depends on Giggs himself, and whether or not he committed to learn.

 

[GiddyUp]

This is one excuse united fans over using, new to club need to find his feet etc.

Lukaku storms the league in his first year, Costa ditto, mata on his first chelsea stint, Hazzard, Aguerro, even the coaches hits the ground running.

We are being too lenient, we give players like rafael 5 years and probably will give him morw if he's not sold. We waited bloody years for rooney and we still go with the same let's try him in midfielder.

Sometimes i dont know if we're that gallant of a fans or just plain dumb

Some players definately hit the ground running and again it depends on the player. I agree, it is an excuse but lite not forget players are a multi million pound investment for a club and every chance should be afforded to them but the line must be drawn somewhere. Phil Jones for example, the first player I would replace. Injuries and patchy form doesn't warrant the patience or the place in th team. United seem to want to shift players around and out of position just to prolong their career at the club but I would love us to be more ruthless.
Rooney should be sold this summer but he will not. Giggs should of retired at 35, not running around our midfield at 39. Rio should of been sold by the club one season earlier, Scholes should of stayed retired. Doing this may cost us the league for a season but in the long run it would've been more healthy for the squad.

 

[JohnnyKills]

United have around 55,000 season ticket holders. Do ye honestly believe that 51,000 of them arent renewing? Fans that have had tickets for years? Especially with all the rumours of Mourinho coming in?

Either whoever wrote that is a blatent liar or its simply because holders have another month to renew. Why ye are even entertaining that rubbish is beyond me.

Are we writing in old English now? Brilliant, I loveth thy notion good sir

To be honest I think a lot of people are waiting and seeing. The thought of paying for another season of garbage will deter many. Yes Mourinho would be a major draw but if I had a season ticket I certainly wouldn't commit hundreds of pounds to a renewal on the strength of rumours.

Of course the number who eventually renew will be far greater than 4,000, but it won't be anywhere near 55,000 if LVG is retained.

 

[itso 7]

I wonder who else would have been considered for the job if the majority of the board were "men of football" and not economists. Woodward & Co probably see Mourinho as a quick fix who can bring good results short term and they most likely dont have any problem getting closer to Mendes as he will provide them with top class players as long as they pay enough, which they will. Personally I think people like SAF, Charlton etc. would have considered Giggs first of all but also the likes of Pochettino, Tuchel(Dortmund), Schmidt(Leverkusen) and de Boer(Ajax) which would have been exciting choices. Bigger gamble but such a choice would imply that there would be some more long term vision.

The time to do that was when Fergie retired because then we still had more room to take such a risk as we were the reigning champions but we chose that moment to have the biggest imaginable brainfart. If we do this now and goes tits up again then our decline is sealed in the eyes of the world, its going to be hard enough as it is but a third failed manager will be difficult to come back from.

 

[GiddyUp]

Aye and people have been saying for months that it's 100% happening which I find utterly bizarre. If any journo really had an insight into this, the story would have broke by now, in an official capacity. I don't think any decision has yet been made yet, but unfortunately I feel that LvG is staying.

I hope I'm wrong of course but I've yet to see anything concrete that has swayed my belief. It's great and all filling the back pages with stories about how Mourinho will be our next manager and have £300m to spend; the thing is, all of these stories are basically built on no foundations whatsoever. I just can't fathom how some on here are so overly confident that this is done - I mean, it might happen and I hope it does, but right now, it looks far from a done deal.

Obviously this is all my gut instinct as I, nor nobody else has anything concrete to go on. We will have to wait and see, but I'm very much in the 'I think LvG is staying camp' - it would be an awful outcome as he really has to go, but I have a bad feeling.

But if it was concrete that VGaal was staying the club would of made a statement weeks ago. It works both ways, you see nothing definate in the media regarding Mourinho but nothing definite in VGaal staying. If our plan is Giggs we would already be in a welcome tour not unlike a Stevie Me farewell tour. Ed would be milking it like a new episode of Star Wars if he wanted Giggs.
My opinion is this situation is like a jigsaw. I have gathered enough pieces and put the together to conclude that Mourinho is our next manager. There could be numerous factors involved like a non competition clause, friendships with VGaal, Mourinho not rushing in to it like he did with Chelsea that account for a lack of information leaked to the public.
We have heard the right things from people on the continent that have far more insight then the red top shite merchants. We have heard nothing from the club which is promising when a change of manager is imminent. We have screwed up bad over the last three years, one was a romantic notion and one was a necessity. It's time for us to get it together and having Mourinho available and seemingly wanting to come it could all fall in to place. A management structure with a plan, good relations with the worlds best agent, emphasis on building our academy and an Ed who wants to splurge the club millions all over Europe.

 

[Grylte]

I need new rumours and leaks, to calm my inner muppet down, i'm afraid we'll lose out on Mourinho.
But i guess nothing will happen before after the Cup final.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

IIRC it's in the 40k, so my guess is that it's a typo and the club registered 38k season tickets.

Nope.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

If this whole thing is true then the part I can't understand is why we'd possibly see the need to pay him £20 m per season, I think it was reported he was on £10 m per season at Chelsea, and LvG on £6 m with us, so why for a man who seemingly wants this job above any other, and has done a lot of the chasing, would we see fit to pay this amount of money?

That is unless we'd just do it beacause we can, and want to be seen as the club paying the highest fees/wages, or just want his wages to be higher than Pep's.

Still find the whole Mourinho at United thing hard to believe at this point though.

 

[GiddyUp]

I wonder who else would have been considered for the job if the majority of the board were "men of football" and not economists. Woodward & Co probably see Mourinho as a quick fix who can bring good results short term and they most likely dont have any problem getting closer to Mendes as he will provide them with top class players as long as they pay enough, which they will. Personally I think people like SAF, Charlton etc. would have considered Giggs first of all but also the likes of Pochettino, Tuchel(Dortmund), Schmidt(Leverkusen) and de Boer(Ajax) which would have been exciting choices. Bigger gamble but such a choice would imply that there would be some more long term vision.

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

 

[GiddyUp]

Exactly. As LvG is contracted for another year, the club are under no obligation whatsoever to release any statement if LvG is staying on. It will just be business as usual. I guess if nothing has happened pretty soon after the FA Cup Final, then it will most likely mean that LvG is staying on.

If the club don't have a plan to replace a manger who is retiring in 12 months and is coming off the back of the worst season for the club in recent memory then not only do I fear for Manchester United as a football club but as an organization.

 

[Robbie Boy]

But if it was concrete that VGaal was staying the club would of made a statement weeks ago. It works both ways, you see nothing definate in the media regarding Mourinho but nothing definite in VGaal staying.

Oh I agree with that 100%. I don't think by any means it's necessarily definitive that LvG is staying, but on the flip side, the club is under no obligation to announce that a manager with a year remaining on his contract is staying. My point is that nobody has a clue and the media are clearly frustrated that they haven't got anything more conclusive considering this story broke months ago, at this stage. I honestly don't think any decision has been made and we won't know anything until the end of the season. I would imagine that LvG's job is under severe threat, I mean it has to be, but I don't think anything will be decided until the end of the season.[/

 

[Speedicut75]

If the club don't have a plan to replace a manger who is retiring in 12 months and is coming off the back of the worst season for the club in recent memory then not only do I fear for Manchester United as a football club but as an organization.

They do and it goes by the name, "Ryan" ( don't shoot the messenger ).

 

[Robbie Boy]

If the club don't have a plan to replace a manger who is retiring in 12 months and is coming off the back of the worst season for the club in recent memory then not only do I fear for Manchester United as a football club but as an organization.

I agree. Don't think for one minute that I don't. My point was a response to a poster that suggested it may be announced that LvG is staying; if he is staying, there will be no announcement, he will just carry on and we will all go into meltdown. This is all gut instinct and just how I feel on the matter. As I have reiterated, I hope to god that I'm wrong but only time will tell.

 

[SirAF]

They do and it goes by the name, "Ryan" ( don't shoot the messenger ).

Saving Privileged Ryan

 

[GiddyUp]

Red Issue reported that around 3800 (i think) had been sold. Very poor return but what can the club expect? I'm over the moon that people have chose not to renew, We needed to make a statement to the board and this very well does it.

It's fantastic news. People forget that when all is said and done football is entertainment. It's very noble following a club through thick and thin but when you have a club with magnetic attraction like United you cannot get away with the football we have seen the last three years. If this season started in November we would be closer to bottom five then the top five. We currently have the most negative manager in the league and if we continue it will affect every part of the club, not just the football.

 

[GiddyUp]

Wouldn't work. Mourinho wouldn't be able to trust someone waiting to take over his 'job' - if indeed Mourinho is the manager. Hell, I wouldn't trust Giggs. The situation is too uncomfortable.

Moreover, Giggs has learnt enough as an assistant imho. What he needs now is to put into practice what he's learnt. He needs to understand what it feels like to be 100% responsible for a team. You can't learn that by sitting by someone's side for years - you need to test yourself or you'll never be ready for management. And not because LVG hasn't worked out for us, doesn't mean he has nothing to teach Giggs. It all depends on Giggs himself, and whether or not he committed to learn.

Exactly, he has had the majority of his coaching time under two failed managers and now some people expect him to take what he has learned and use it while managing the same club as the two failed managers. What the hell is going on in people's minds?

 

[Speedicut75]

Saving Privileged Ryan

Wash your mouth out, there's nothing "privileged" about Saint Ryan of Giggs!

 

[JPRouve]

Nope.

A "typo".

 

[SirAF]

Wash your mouth out, there's nothing "privileged" about Saint Ryan of Giggs!

Sorry, it was a typo.

 

[GiddyUp]

I agree. Don't think for one minute that I don't. My point was a response to a poster that suggested it may be announced that LvG is staying; if he is staying, there will be no announcement, he will just carry on and we will all go into meltdown. This is all gut instinct and just how I feel on the matter. As I have reiterated, I hope to god that I'm wrong but only time will tell.

It's worrying I know, although I'm confident of Mourinho this summer I am still fearful. For a club that like to talk about support and use it to sell to sponsors they really are bastards for keeping us in the dark. The only explanation I can think of is they don't want the boat rocked for the final or the chase for fourth. Van Gaal seems like the kind of person you don't feck with and he could seriously screw up an already screwed up season by pissing all over our silver lining. Let's just say he will not go quietly in to the night, example being his comment last week about not having quality after he spent quarter of a billion himself.

 

[GiddyUp]

They do and it goes by the name, "Ryan" ( don't shoot the messenger ).

I would be appalled if that is the case. If it was though I think we would hear it from the Mourinho camp. They are not messing around and if there was no deal in place we would of heard it. The guy can command as much money he wants even though I doubt that is his motivation so I can't imagine he would be using this club as leverage in negotiations with another team.

 

[GiddyUp]

They do and it goes by the name, "Ryan" ( don't shoot the messenger ).

And then people will applaud the choice but say he needs a mentor to guide him. So Manchester United hires a manager who needs a manager so we can try replicate the achievements of our new managers manager. It's like a Saturday Night Live skit. I have hope for young Ed but if this is his decision I will have a new sworn enemy.

 

[Speedicut75]

I would be appalled if that is the case. If it was though I think we would hear it from the Mourinho camp. They are not messing around and if there was no deal in place we would of heard it. The guy can command as much money he wants even though I doubt that is his motivation so I can't imagine he would be using this club as leverage in negotiations with another team.

You're right, and I think there's genuine interest, but i reckon that other, less tangible considerations, could be at play here where future candidates are concerned, particularly when certain personnel have been with an organization since time began.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

Well said.

 

[Kag]

Oh I agree with that 100%. I don't think by any means it's necessarily definitive that LvG is staying, but on the flip side, the club is under no obligation to announce that a manager with a year remaining on his contract is staying. My point is that nobody has a clue and the media are clearly frustrated that they haven't got anything more conclusive considering this story broke months ago, at this stage. I honestly don't think any decision has been made and we won't know anything until the end of the season. I would imagine that LvG's job is under severe threat, I mean it has to be, but I don't think anything will be decided until the end of the season.[/

The club has already decided what's going to happen and Mourinho will be our next manager. It's clear as the day. What staggers more is that people like yourself can't see what's staring you right in the face.

The idea that the powers at be in the boardroom are waiting for Van Gaal to win the FA Cup final/finish in the top four is a narrative of incompetence I find to be ludicrous.

 

[CG1010]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

Beautiful.. brought a tear to my eye.

 

[AltiUn]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

Good post.

 

[SirAF]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

Take a bow, son.

 

[Sigma]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

Fully agree.

 

[Robbie Boy]

The club has already decided what's going to happen and Mourinho will be our next manager. It's clear as the day. What staggers more is that people like yourself can't see what's staring you right in the face.

The idea that the powers at be in the boardroom are waiting for Van Gaal to win the FA Cup final/finish in the top four is a narrative of incompetence I find to be ludicrous.

I never said a word about finishing fourth or winning the FA Cup so you're barking up the wrong tree with that one. Obviously we won't know anything until the end of the season; I mean, that's just obvious. I'm not one of the ones saying that they expect an announcement if / when we don't get top four.

I love your arrogant confidence on something you know nothing about other than the speculation that takes up every back page. It's quite something Kaggy, I'll give you that. Lets hope the board make the obvious choice and appoint the clearly brilliant Mourinho. Until I hear something official, I'll remain sceptical. I'm sorry but Kag from RedCafe just isn't a strong enough definitive, for me.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

I also agree. Great point about people not wanting a Ferguson, very neatly put.

In fact you can go further: people are opposed to Mourinho yet we've had someone just as arrogant, rude and controversial in charge for the past two years. LVG shares all Mourinho's drawbacks and wins far fewer trophies.

 

[pseudo_canadian]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

Very well said.

The mindset of those who don't want Mourinho absolutely baffles me. He is the exact manager we need if we're ever going to get our arrogance and swagger back.

 

[Petr1]

The time to do that was when Fergie retired because then we still had more room to take such a risk as we were the reigning champions but we chose that moment to have the biggest imaginable brainfart. If we do this now and goes tits up again then our decline is sealed in the eyes of the world, its going to be hard enough as it is but a third failed manager will be difficult to come back from.

Yes. I we can agree that the board/Woodward have painted themself in a corner as a result of their decisions

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

Hold on one second, twelve years ago Mourinhos name would of been mentioned along side all the promising managers but now that he has won silver everywhere he has gone he's just not risky enough for our fairytale. You could easily put AVB name amongst these managers, how did that turn out at Chelsea and Spurs. With this thinking Alex Ferguson wouldn't be considered today because of his attitude and the trophys he won with Aberdeen. Should Manchester United not hire the best manager out there?.
The most successful manager hands down of the last 15 years is ready to become our manager. If fans of this club would prefer a magical story that may have a happy ending as long as our risky new manager can magically replicate what the best manager in sports achieved then that's fair enough. There is a wonderful story happening right now in Leicester City, you could jump on that bandwagon since you don't really care if this team loses or plays like shite. If you don't want to lose face in front of other supporters you could also start supporting FCUnited, the plucky lower leagues would be right up you're ally. Me, I will continue to support Manchester United and will scream and shout until the right decisions are made and we start kicking arse again.
The craziest thing about this disagreement is people want us to replicate what Ferguson achieved but don't want a Ferguson. The closest person in football to Alex Ferguson is Jose Mourinho. But no, people want to continue with a magical yarn where the club need to run from the ball at midnight in case people call them out for wanting success, where they would rather have a talking mouse as manager than a vicious lion. I want United to take back the fecking kingdom but others would rather we live on the outskirts of the forest and raise our young.

Best post I have read on here in 12 months.