BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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How can anyone believe a 35 yo striker can be great in the EPL. I do not want another aging great player. Just picture Rooney, Zlatan and Schweinsteiger starting. That would be a nice looking team on paper but a mid-level team at best.

He's coming to play in a league where size matters. His age is irrelevant. We need a player like him, we need that arrogance in our team once again and he will be great for Martial and Rashford.
 
Firstly let's nail this nonsense that there's some kind of secret agreement in place to make Mourinho our manager. There isn't. If there were, we'd be legally obliged to notify the NYSE as a change of manager is something that would affect the share price of the company. The best we could have at present is a dated option i.e. we pay him x amount not to take any other job and we have to decide by a certain date whether we wish to secure his services or not.

As for Woodward, the jury's still out. So far he's demonstrated he can run a business but he's yet to show he can successfully run a football club. There's a world of difference. We should find out more in the next 4 weeks, by which time the season will be over and the big decisions will have to be made.
 
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Another person who has worked with Mourinho saying he only wants to work with developed players.
 
I have just lumped on all of my Cheltenham winnings that I was saving for a rainy day (>£500 but <£1,000) on Mourinho to be next permanent Utd manager. Best odds you can get anywhere at the moment is Paddypower at 1.53.

Not great odds, but should be free money!
Your money is so gone pal

How will you feel when you see LvG's big gleaming smile as he walks out for our first game next season?
 
jOURNAL DE NOTICIAS have said the deal is done. They USUALLY do not bullshit.

José Mourinho vai treinar o Manchester United a partir da próxima época depois de se ter comprometido com o clube inglês no final do último ano, quando rescindiu contrato com o Chelsea.

Translation here -
Jose Mourinho will coach Manchester United from next season after having committed to the English club at the end of last year, when parted company with Chelsea
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More here-

http://www.jn.pt/desporto/interior/jose-mourinho-ja-assinou-pelo-manchester-united-5140395.html
 
He signed last year? Why is it only coming out now?
 
Why get all excited its just another journalist putting his take forward, all these ITK journalist probably know nothing at all and make it up as they go along.

Journal de noticias are the one who claimed it first, it was in december, everything started with them.
 
Jornal de Noticias is one of Portugal's biggest newspapers, and it's not restricted to sport. Therefore for them to have Jose Mourinho splashed across their front page on Saturday means they think they've got a big story.

With a headline reading 'Jose Mourinho has signed for Manchester (United)', Jornal de Noticias get straight to the point. The article isn't available online and it isn't in their e-paper edition, only in a supplement inside the newspaper.

A little digging and we've found out the claims are: Mourinho has signed, he's been watching Manchester United matches to get an idea of the current squad and deficiencies in it, and he'll have full power on transfers, with the newspaper also pointing out he may well recruit some players from the Portuguese league.

It's not anything that hasn't been claimed before, it would be impossible for anything new to be claimed at this stage... given everything which has been said. However, Manchester United fans who want Mourinho may take comfort in how big Jornal de Noticias have gone with this.

In January, Jornal de Noticias reported that Mourinho was holding meetings with his former Chelsea assistant Rui Faria, talking about their future plans and keeping up their knowledge of players.


http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...tugal-mourinho-has-now-signed-with-man-united
 
So it really does come across that he only likes to work with mature, developed players. Having said that, all of the clubs he has worked at demanded a title challenge/win from the first season (I'm not sure of his time in Portugal). At United, I don't think this would be expected from his first season. I may just be clutching at straws.
 
Still dont see the point in getting excited, when either United or Mourinho say the deals done then I will jump through hoops until then I take everything with a pinch of salt.

Then don't be excited, I mean you know the caf, anything is a good reason to pull out your willy, just ignore them.
 
To be fair, we are not Barca or Bayern who either have super players or just pretty much one horse race in their league. Even then, they have a lot of disappointments somehow. We have had a lot teams pumping their money into the squads in EPL and they have not been successful as they should. Not consistently anyway.

My point is that we are no different now since SAF left. We will have to get used to with appointing wrong managers, or buying a lot of wrong and expensive players etc. We are just like everyone else now.

There is no telling that Jose or Pep would be successful here. At least not as much as people expect them to. In fact, the former totally fecked up this season...

So blaming the board for not foreseeing things exactly while the rest of the world has more or less same problem can be a bit OTT.

Excellent post. The board are largely useless mind, but excessive criticism isn't warranted I agree.
 
Honestly speaking, which under 21 player in Manchester United are properly ready for a title challenging side in a tough epl competition? Which of our youngster can honestly stake their claim to start in top 6 team based on their ability (without extra romantic point of being local product)

Barcelona plays alot of home grown local lad because they're that good

There's no point to play youth just for the sake of it.
 
So it really does come across that he only likes to work with mature, developed players. Having said that, all of the clubs he has worked at demanded a title challenge/win from the first season (I'm not sure of his time in Portugal). At United, I don't think this would be expected from his first season. I may just be clutching at straws.

What I heard from Lollichon is that he hates to feel that a player isn't 100% focused on training, he doesn't care about the fact that a player looks good or better than his teammates, he wants them to train at 100%, he expects game intensity.
The problem with Mourinho isn't that he wants developed players, he wants focused, dedicated and hungry players and he seems to be way too obsessed by those traits of character.
 
To be fair, we are not Barca or Bayern who either have super players or just pretty much one horse race in their league. Even then, they have a lot of disappointments somehow. We have had a lot teams pumping their money into the squads in EPL and they have not been successful as they should. Not consistently anyway.

My point is that we are no different now since SAF left. We will have to get used to with appointing wrong managers, or buying a lot of wrong and expensive players etc. We are just like everyone else now.

There is no telling that Jose or Pep would be successful here. At least not as much as people expect them to. In fact, the former totally fecked up this season...

So blaming the board for not foreseeing things exactly while the rest of the world has more or less same problem can be a bit OTT.
I can understand the boards decision to appoint Moyes on Sir Alex's recommendation. LvG was probably the right choice at the time. However, it was plainly obvious he was getting basic decisions wrong from his first season at the club. He scraped 4th place. At the very minimum, the board should have sacked him in December. Personally, I wanted him sacked a few months into his first season.
 
Hoping the latest reports are bull. Similar claims to El Pais and Diego Torres. I can't believe we would have signed a legally binding contract with Mourinho yet.
 
I can understand the boards decision to appoint Moyes on Sir Alex's recommendation. LvG was probably the right choice at the time. However, it was plainly obvious he was getting basic decisions wrong from his first season at the club. He scraped 4th place. At the very minimum, the board should have sacked him in December. Personally, I wanted him sacked a few months into his first season.

Agreed. It was painfully obvious by Christmas 2014 that he was the wrong man for the job.
 
What I heard from Lollichon is that he hates to feel that a player isn't 100% focused on training, he doesn't care about the fact that a player looks good or better than his teammates, he wants them to train at 100%, he expects game intensity.
The problem with Mourinho isn't that he wants developed players, he wants focused, dedicated and hungry players and he seems to be way too obsessed by those traits of character.
I see nothing wrong with that. One of the schools I attended had that mentality running right throughout the whole institution - and still today it stays the same way - and they are still extremely successful. No matter how talented you were, if you didn't give 100% dedication, you would be told off pretty harshly. If you still didn't improve, you'd be axed from the team.
 
Somewhere Balague is tweeting that he said there was no deal at the time he reported it but there is one now.
People read what they want into his stories...

Poor Guillem..
 
What is the deal with Rui Faria? What has he done wrong?
He's not a very likeable character, in fact, he can be an arse - but this is normal for most football folks. Obviously capable, as Mourinho would probably have dumped him already.
 
Somewhere Balague is tweeting that he said there was no deal at the time he reported it but there is one now.
People read what they want into his stories...

Poor Guillem..
He changes his mind every week about if this is happening or not. His head must be spinning.
 
That's coming from De Bruyne's agent, hardly an objective view :lol:.
Mourinho wanted to keep him.
He just didn't think he was ready yet. KDB did and he was right. However there are piles of kids who have said that and left clubs to fade into obscurity. Win some, lose some.
 
There might be more to this than face-saving cover stories from Mou and from KDB - the truth could be that, rightly or wrongly, José didn't fancy Kevin's (footballing) personality/appetite for the siege mentality stuff.
 
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