If he becomes the next United manager I think he will fail. Got a feeling he is past his prime. His recent CV consists of getting sacked by his last 2 clubs, falling out with his last 2 squads, falling out with the respective stars of his last 2 squads in particular, making decisions like selling De Bruyne but keeping Oscar just because the latter puts in more of a shift, getting rid of Lukaku, buying Pedro, buying Filipe Luis and not using him at all, a player who is a starter in a team that is joint top of La Liga with Barca and in the CL semis, desperately wanting to buy Rooney, getting knocked out by 10 men PSG at home etc. etc. A whole lot of questionable decisions and actions. Guardiola in the same city will also bring the worst out of him without a shadow of doubt. Think he will fail.
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Critiscism on the basis of poor performance is understandable but critiscism with senseless accusations that is very OTT. For instance, there are lots here who claim he is lvg s mate as if they were friends since childhood. I have no doubt that Woodward would sack LvG and/or Giggs with ease if he wants to. He wouldn't have reached this position if he was weak in taking decisions. I don't understand people calling our board as useless when In fact they seem to be doing everything that a board should do.
By, far the most important thing for a Football club is getting success on the pitch. If the club is not getting that then no they are not doing everything a board should do.
Board can't go and play now can they? They can hire the manager and then buy the players the manager wants to set up the team.
If the manager is not getting the best out of the squad they can go find a manager who could.
Which is probably what they are going to do by appointing mourinho, if reports are to be believed.
I don't get people panicking about this. Are you seriously expecting the club to announce a change in manager at this stage after what has happened at city?
Who are those football people? It's hard to imagine that football people with connections to United are unbiased or without an agenda.
Most people/fans know that SAF was the only reason Moyes got a 6 yr contract.
Top decisions are made by the owners and only by the owners. The owners decide who will be the manager.
Yes, they may relegate some decisions. But if they do, they are not going to blame the person they asked to decide in their place. Ultimately, the owners have full responsibility.
That's incredibly naive.
Sacked by Madrid...a club who sack everyone. Sacked by Chelsea....again, a club who sack everyone. Both clubs let players call the shots. Mourinho made it clear in the summer the squad needed a refresh.
Getting rid of Lukaku and De Bruyne - yep, SAF never let a young player leave did he. Particularly ones that went on to be world class....wait, yes he did.
Pedro - every Utd fan wanted to sign him.
Wanting to buy Rooney - that had more to do with getting one over your rivals.
PSG - again, SAF lost countless games in Europe he shouldn't have.
Of course he may fail but you've listed examples that could be thrown at every manager there has ever been.
The (extremely obvious) difference is we can see exactly what those people are doing.
To be fair, we are not Barca or Bayern who either have super players or just pretty much one horse race in their league. Even then, they have a lot of disappointments somehow. We have had a lot teams pumping their money into the squads in EPL and they have not been successful as they should. Not consistently anyway.
My point is that we are no different now since SAF left. We will have to get used to with appointing wrong managers, or buying a lot of wrong and expensive players etc. We are just like everyone else now.
There is no telling that Jose or Pep would be successful here. At least not as much as people expect them to. In fact, the former totally fecked up this season...
So blaming the board for not foreseeing things exactly while the rest of the world has more or less same problem can be a bit OTT.
My point is that we are no different now since SAF left. We will have to get used to with appointing wrong managers, or buying a lot of wrong and expensive players etc. We are just like everyone else now.
There is no telling that Jose or Pep would be successful here. At least not as much as people expect them to. In fact, the former totally fecked up this season...
So blaming the board for not foreseeing things exactly while the rest of the world has more or less same problem can be a bit OTT.
A lot of the most important roles of a manager is not seen by the public.
I very much doubt you can convincingly argue that the manager does anything more important than what happens on the pitch.
The only real yardstick by which you can realistically judge the CEO is the financial performance of the company, an area at which Woody has excelled. Anything else is speculative guesswork and generally nonsense.
If the manager does not prepare the team well during the week in training, etc it will not matter the decisions he makes on match day. Also, in this business the only real measure is success on the pitch even for the CEO.
I doubt it.
Chelsea announced Jose, only after we announced Moyes.
I think Jose was hoping for the MUFC job (which manager wouldn't?). At the time MUFC were giants. Winning the league by a big margin, etc.
After the job went to Moyes, Jose joined Chelsea within days.
My understanding was that Ancelotti and Moyes were the only managers on our short list.
Of course, the truth will probably never be revealed or confirmed.
Benitez during one of his press conferences at Chelsea said that he wasnt expecting to stay becasue "new mamager, and you know who is coming". He said that long before we anmouced Golum.
Yeah that rings true to me as well. Portuguese press also said he was set on a return to London.
The biggest mistake we made was allowing Ferguson to leave at such short notice. He had more influence over than United than probably anyone else has ever had over a single club; we should have gone the way of most big companies and obliged him to give a year's notice.
This.You cannot force a manager to stay once he had handed in resignation, especially one that has achieved as much as Ferguson did at United. It'd have been unfair.
How can anyone believe a 35 yo striker can be great in the EPL. I do not want another aging great player. Just picture Rooney, Zlatan and Schweinsteiger starting. That would be a nice looking team on paper but a mid-level team at best.
I have just lumped on all of my Cheltenham winnings that I was saving for a rainy day (>£500 but <£1,000) on Mourinho to be next permanent Utd manager. Best odds you can get anywhere at the moment is Paddypower at 1.53.
Not great odds, but should be free money!
Not great odds, but should be free money!
Bold..
I take your point, but Zlatans game isn't cetered around speed,never has been, he is as fit as a flea and agile to boot, because of his martial arts, he is good until he is 40 just like Sheringham, giggs etc, on top of that I see a real resemblance to Ling Eric , maybe he is the magician we need to unlock the doors of prem teams.
You just made my weekend mate. Please let it be true!!!
It's like printing money
Can we see the docket,proof pudding if you know what I mean.
Well if Moyes was perfect for the squad fergie left behind, why did we turn into a laughing stock? if the manager cannot command the respect of the dressing room, changing the way older players train, he has failed, and Moyes very much failed big time. The difference between VG and Moyes? Moyes could not get a result out of his backside if his life depended on it, VG some how some way manages to get some results some how, liverpool, city, spurs, arsenal he has habbit of doing this, while VG has been almost just has bad, he some how manages to dodge bullets when he should have been left for dead
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Selection Selection Details Result
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Next Permanent Man Utd Manager
25th of April 2016 11:00 pm
Man Utd Manager
J Mourinho @ 1.53
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Bet receipt number : O/2098xxxx/xxxxxxx
Selection Selection Details Result
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Football Specials
Manager Specials
Next Permanent Man Utd Manager
25th of April 2016 11:00 pm
Man Utd Manager
J Mourinho @ 1.53
Pending
Stake and Return Details
Bet placed at 22nd of April 2016 12:18 pm Total Stake £400.00
Bet type Single (To Win) Tax@Tax free 0
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Yeh - basically its £600 to return £920.
Insider trading, or something.
Wow,fair play to you,you've got bigger balls than LVG.
I see. Don't know if that's worth the risk for me!
Good to hear that someone is confident enough to stake good money on Mourinho. Mainly because I'm very much expecting LVG to stay. Any sliver of hope for Mourinho coming is very welcome.
Apparently we've spent 10m on agent fees since October, more than double anyone else in the league. Paying Mendes?
Clown!
I found that interesting too, in particular during a time when the club didn't sign any players.
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