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Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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Am I the only one that thinks Mourinho would be here for the long haul should he be selected for the job?

I've seen a lot of posters make the point that he'll be a stop-gap type solution, who'll be gone after 3 years.

Anyway, we'll see what happens but I really hope we get him.
 
Am I the only one that thinks Mourinho would be here for the long haul should he be selected for the job?

I've seen a lot of posters make the point that he'll be a stop-gap type solution, who'll be gone after 3 years.

Anyway, we'll see what happens but I really hope we get him.

I just don't think he works like that, he's too full-on to be successful long-term unless he's allowed to basically change the whole squad every two or three years. He seems to run players into the ground physically and push them so far that he eventually falls out with them. That's ignoring that he seems to be keen to get into fights with the board, opposing managers and the authorities whenever possible.

I think our squad is miles away from being good enough, I'm not sure he could overcome that in one year. I'd expect we'd be close at least once out of his second or third seasons but it's really difficult to win a league title, Ferguson made it seem easy. It would be nice if he could just make us actual contenders again, even if I don't think he could do it for many years.
 
Am I the only one that thinks Mourinho would be here for the long haul should he be selected for the job?

I've seen a lot of posters make the point that he'll be a stop-gap type solution, who'll be gone after 3 years.

Anyway, we'll see what happens but I really hope we get him.
I think he wants to stay for a long time. Just like he wanted to at Chelsea. He had just signed a new long term deal there just last August.

Things just went pearshaped . From his comments however,like talking about how his family is settled in England and how he wants a long term stay it looks like that's his plan. He needs to adapt to that kind of environment.
 
One of the reasons I want Zlatan is because of his personality, love him. Also still a very good striker, and with players like Rashford, Martial, Memphis, Valencia, Shaw, TFM e.t.c. he is the perfect target man to bring those wide pacy players into play

Yep. Can't wait to have someone like him to shout at Herrara for not playing the ball forward to his feet. We could do with that sort of ego and hopefully it will rub off on the youngster instead of this old Dictator we have incharge now.
 
Yep. Can't wait to have someone like him to shout at Herrara for not playing the ball forward to his feet. We could do with that sort of ego and hopefully it will rub off on the youngster instead of this old Dictator we have incharge now.
Exactly. Yet we shouldn't want him here because he had an off day against city.
 
Am I the only one that thinks Mourinho would be here for the long haul should he be selected for the job?

I've seen a lot of posters make the point that he'll be a stop-gap type solution, who'll be gone after 3 years.

Anyway, we'll see what happens but I really hope we get him.
I also think he will be here for longer than 3 years.

Porto he had achieved everything after 2 seasons at Porto and it was time to move to a bigger club

First time at Chelsea
1st year - Title + League Cup
2nd year - Title
3rd year - FA Cup + League Cup + CL semi final
4th year - Sacked after 4 wins and 2 draws in 7 league games, leaves behind a team that loses out on the title by 2 points and the CL by a penalty

Inter he achieved everything after 2 seasons and the door opened to the biggest club in the world.

Real Madrid is a club where managers just don't last. Probably the highest pressure job in the world while competing with one of the best club teams ever in Barcelona. I think he did well to win 1 title in his 3 years while others say that is a failure. He also got them to the semi final 3 times in a row while before that they had gone 5+ years getting knocked out at the last 16. Left behind a team that went on to win it the year after.

This season at at Chelsea was bad but I think by looking at his career it can be assumed it's not going to happen often.

Assuming he achieves some success like he has everywhere else here and that standards are at a 20 year low I think he will manage to stay longer than 3 years. I don't think we are a club that would sack someone if they won us a trophy the year after like they do at Madrid and Chelsea. Just look at what both clubs did to Ancellotti after winning the double and CL
 
This 3rd season nonsense is beginning to grate. It's a complete myth. He has only ever completed two third seasons as a manger, one with Chelsea in 06/07 (Finishing second and winning a cup double) and Madrid in 12/13 where he didn't win a trophy.

He left Porto as reigning European Champions after his second season, he left Inter as reigning European Champions after his second season. It's only this one season where everything appeared to have fallen apart. Mourinho is in no way absolved of responsibility as he is the man in charge, but this constant '3rd season' syndrome that keeps popping up is bullshit, and really needs putting to bed.

Correct.
 
It's really not that much of a leap to suggest that the right manager could have us doing considerably better than we are, and adding in a few key transfers could put us in the mix.

Yep. With the right manager and a couple of signings in January just gone I would have fancied us to have pushed Leicester all the way this season too.

We've dropped more than 18 points do far this season to teams that a Ferguson managed United would have swatted aside in years gone by.

I know it's not quite as simple as that, but I do believe that under a competent manager this side would have been at the very least challenging for the title.
 
I just don't think he works like that, he's too full-on to be successful long-term unless he's allowed to basically change the whole squad every two or three years. He seems to run players into the ground physically and push them so far that he eventually falls out with them. That's ignoring that he seems to be keen to get into fights with the board, opposing managers and the authorities whenever possible.

I think our squad is miles away from being good enough, I'm not sure he could overcome that in one year. I'd expect we'd be close at least once out of his second or third seasons but it's really difficult to win a league title, Ferguson made it seem easy. It would be nice if he could just make us actual contenders again, even if I don't think he could do it for many years.

Fair enough, I understand where you are coming from.

Although a part of me feels that Mourinho would be a different kind of animal at United. He has gone on record to state that he and his family are very happy in the UK and would like to stay here for the foreseeable future. There are not many other clubs I can see him managing in the Premier League, and with Pep arriving at City, he will have another chance to get one over on him.

He's very much an egotistical character, so I feel his vendetta towards Pep/Barca will still be apparent should he join us. Can you imagine how great the Manchester derby would be?

Saying that, I feel he actually respects United as a club, so I can see us getting a more mature and tamed Mourinho so to speak.

That's what I'm hoping for anyway, it's probably all bollocks and he'll shout abuse at Fred the Red on match days causing a mass revolt within the club.

I think he wants to stay for a long time. Just like he wanted to at Chelsea. He had just signed a new long term deal there just last August.

Things just went pearshaped . From his comments however,like talking about how his family is settled in England and how he wants a long term stay it looks like that's his plan. He needs to adapt to that kind of environment.

Yes, this is very much my thinking too.

Over the years he has always spoken very highly of United as a club and I think he appreciates that we didn't sack Moyes and LvG straight away, when the likes of Chelsea and Madrid would have easily without question.

Maybe he is looking for that security so he can build his legacy properly? At Chelsea and Madrid he didn't have time to build a team over the years as they both demand instant success.

As a result of this, he has had to do his best to win things as quickly as possible, which is why he has often bought a lot of players in immediately, whilst neglecting youth players who'd likely take a while to get to the level required.

At United I can see him developing players, in addition to buying new ones, as he'd know there would be more time to do so.
 
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Nobody doubts his intention if he comes would be to stay for a long time. It's just that his management style and abrasive nature means it's very unlikely.
 
Fair enough, I understand where you are coming from.

Although a part of me feels that Mourinho would be a different kind of animal at United. He has gone on record to state that he and his family are very happy in the UK and would like to stay here for the foreseeable future. There are not many other clubs I can see him managing in the Premier League, and with Pep arriving at City, he will have another chance to get one over on him.

He's very much an egotistical character, so I feel his vendetta towards Pep/Barca will still be apparent should he join us. Can you imagine how great the Manchester derby would be?

Saying that, I feel he actually respects United as a club, so I can see us getting a more mature and tamed Mourinho so to speak.

That's what I'm hoping for anyway, it's probably all bollocks and he'll shout abuse at Fred the Red on match days causing a mass revolt within the club.



Yes, this is very much my thinking too.

Over the years he has always spoken very highly of United as a club and I think he appreciates that we didn't sack Moyes and LvG straight away, when the likes of Chelsea and Madrid would have easily without question.

Maybe he is looking for that security so he can build his legacy properly? At Chelsea and Madrid he didn't have time to build a team over the years as they both demand instant success.

As a result of this, he has had to do his best to win things as quickly as possible, which is why he has often bought a lot of players in immediately, whilst neglecting youth players who'd likely take a while to get to the level required.

At United I can see him developing players, in addition to buying new ones, as he'd know there would be more time to do so.

Exactly what I want to see :drool:
 
Fair enough, I understand where you are coming from.

Although a part of me feels that Mourinho would be a different kind of animal at United. He has gone on record to state that he and his family are very happy in the UK and would like to stay here for the foreseeable future. There are not many other clubs I can see him managing in the Premier League, and with Pep arriving at City, he will have another chance to get one over on him.

He's very much an egotistical character, so I feel his vendetta towards Pep/Barca will still be apparent should he join us. Can you imagine how great the Manchester derby would be?

Saying that, I feel he actually respects United as a club, so I can see us getting a more mature and tamed Mourinho so to speak.

That's what I'm hoping for anyway, it's probably all bollocks and he'll shout abuse at Fred the Red on match days causing a mass revolt within the club.

I hope you're right and the truth is I believed the same when he went back to Chelsea, he was saying all the right things then but couldn't help himself. Maybe he could change but I suspect even if he did it could be by diluting how effective he is in the short-term. If he doesn't respect Chelsea, a club where he's been adored and work twice, to curb his instincts why would he at United?

Although he wouldn't be anything like my preference (annoyingly the 2 managers I would have picked will be at City and Liverpool next season), I do think it might be worth the risk. He's probably the manager available who is most likely to win us a trophy over the next 2 or 3 years and even if he did act up at least I'd feel angry and annoyed with him. With Van Gaal's United, I leave the ground or get off the couch just feeling nothing having watched an uninspired team and manager having gone out of their way to bore everyone.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

Challenge first year, win it second, Mourinho 2nd year syndrome please.
 
What's going to be the reaction on the Caf when he is appointed?
Will it be unbridled amazement and happiness?
Or will it be like me, well it's been obvious for quite a while although I will be happy when LvG's gone

Amazement? Why would we be amazed? He's an unemployed football manager who wants to manage in this country and we're the only club here that could afford to give him a contract. That combined with the fact our current manager is boring us to death is enough for me that the deal looks obvious enough.

He's burnt his bridges with some other clubs too, ourselves and PSG may be his only realistic options. I'd much rather a Pochettino, Simeone or Klopp style manager but they all look like they're onto good things where they are.
 
What's going to be the reaction on the Caf when he is appointed?
Will it be unbridled amazement and happiness?
Or will it be like me, well it's been obvious for quite a while although I will be happy when LvG's gone
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Amazement? Why would we be amazed? He's an unemployed football manager who wants to manage in this country and we're the only club here that could afford to give him a contract. That combined with the fact our current manager is boring us to death is enough for me that the deal looks obvious enough.

He's burnt his bridges with some other clubs too, ourselves and PSG may be his only realistic options. I'd much rather a Pochettino, Simeone or Klopp style manager but they all look like they're onto good things where they are.

You just wait for some of the reaction..
 
What's going to be the reaction on the Caf when he is appointed?
Will it be unbridled amazement and happiness?
Or will it be like me, well it's been obvious for quite a while although I will be happy when LvG's gone
Relief that it's all over and we can look forward to what happens on the pitch again.
 
What's going to be the reaction on the Caf when he is appointed?
Will it be unbridled amazement and happiness?
Or will it be like me, well it's been obvious for quite a while although I will be happy when LvG's gone
What's your reaction going to be next month when it dawns on you that LvG is staying?
 
It's funny that all the same people who bang on about him not staying beyond 3 years probably wanted Pep.

And the people banging on about how he took Chelsea down to 16th all probably would have gladly taken Klopp after he had Dortmund in the drop zone.

End of the day, he's (by a million miles) the best available option.
 
No, I'm quoting the bare fact that he's never stayed anywhere longer than 3 years, so should we expect him to stay longer here and if so why?
Because you can look at the context of why he left some of those clubs after 2 years

@Lurpak99 I think @LawCharltonBest's point is that there are not many successful 3 year+ managers available for us right now. None of the people you named are going to come here
 
Yes. Name a successful manager out there now who has been at their club more than 3 years.
Stop changing the challenge. You first asked me to "Name a successful manager who has been at their club more than 3 years". You've changed it to add "now".

Any more changes you wish to make?
 
Stop changing the challenge. You first asked me to "Name a successful manager who has been at their club more than 3 years". You've changed it to add "now".

Any more changes you wish to make?
Did you think he was asking you for a random list of long term managers throughout history? It is obvious he is talking about managers available now
 
What's going to be the reaction on the Caf when he is appointed?
Will it be unbridled amazement and happiness?
Or will it be like me, well it's been obvious for quite a while although I will be happy when LvG's gone

My personal reaction will be something like relief that the situation with Van Gaal has ended as things have seemed to have gotten quite distasteful this season and I do think a change is needed. The appointment of Jose would be a feeling of satisfaction that we have appointed the best available candidate for the job, though I can't deny there are risks attached. In the past I have had many reservations about appointing Jose when other candidates were seemingly available, so whilst my feelings would be mostly positive, I would have some niggling doubts and fears that we have taken a massive risk.

That said, even if we had the full selection of active managers in the game today begging us to appoint them, I do feel that there is no absolutely perfect candidate as they all have questions to answer (can Pep succeed without the best players in the world in his team, or the treble winners of the previous season playing in a league with no competition? Can Ancelotti build a side from scratch himself? Can Klopp keep running a side at 1,000,000 miles-an-hour all season long in the Premier League? Would Simeone's approach work anywhere but Atletico? Can Conte adapt his tactics to a league outside of Italy? Can Wenger actually get a side over the line in this century?) - so basically I will be looking forward to next season, and hoping for the best.
 
Stop changing the challenge. You first asked me to "Name a successful manager who has been at their club more than 3 years". You've changed it to add "now".

Any more changes you wish to make?

I don't know if you've had a bad day or something because you have clearly logged on today looking for a fight. Calm down. I don't care that much.

I meant current managers obviously. I wouldn't randomly ask for managers who aren't active any more. Guardiola who you might consider the best couldn't beat 3 years at Bayern, nor could he anywhere else IIRC.

Did you think he was asking you for a random list of long term managers throughout history? It is obvious he is talking about managers available now
Yes. Thank you
 
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