BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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I'm going to say it very slowly:

In my opinion, due to the fact we operate within a budget, it is unlikely that we will sign both Lukaku and Zlatan. As Zlatan is 33 and declining, I feel it would better for us to sign Lukaku. That's why I care as a fan.


So, you mean (seriously!) that Mourinho would want to sign ... Lukaku (ahem!) and Zlatan... and the problem would be the money? You think so? We couldn't afford it?
 
that's not true. regarding bayern for example, they are usually spot-on.
they have been wrong before though. And I don't get why a German paper should know about a Portugese man going to an English club.

Personally I don´t believe much of what Bild says and why does a German trash paper know more than other outlets, its the same stuff being regurgitated by all the papers.
 
Because the owners pocket the rest... but still: so what? That's for the accountants.

Why does a fan care how much a player is making?

Is there a single fan who is worried that we will not have enough money to pay CR07 or Neyman or the next big superstar?

Is there a SINGLE fan who believes that at this point, in 2016, our problem is money??? Seriously!

The owner pocket 15m, so no it's not the problem.
 
The owner pocket 15m, so no it's not the problem.

You know how much the owners pocket? Wow!!! In which bank account?


(Seriously, there are many ways to pocket money from a company. If you do not run the company yourself, you have no idea, so you definitely do not know how much they pocket!)
 
that's not true. regarding bayern for example, they are usually spot-on.
they have been wrong before though. And I don't get why a German paper should know about a Portugese man going to an English club.

From Schweinsteiger?
 
No, I'd just think you were a dick. Luckily you don't have that name. ;)

Really??? A dick because of the 2025? So, if it is above 2016 you assume a dick, if it is below you assume birth year? That's smart!

There are other numbers in the universe, you know? Or perhaps you may not know... well...
 
So, you mean (seriously!) that Mourinho would want to sign ... Lukaku (ahem!) and Zlatan... and the problem would be the money? You think so? We couldn't afford it?
It's not hard to grasp. I don't want Zlatan because he's 33, in decline and the cost of his wages and his personality mean he isn't going to be bought for a bit part role. Therefore he would be our major signing in the striker department. This may mean we miss out on younger, better options.
 
This thread has become even more of a trainwreck in the last page or so. I've seen more intelligent discussion on YouTube comments section.
 
Are you genuinely asking me if I think a major business accountable to shareholders operates with a financial budget? I'm going to go with yes. I think if we have Rooney on 300k a week, and Zlatan on 300k a week, we're pretty unlikely to then sign Lukaku, who plays in the same position as both, for 60m and 150k a week.
Surely Ibrahimovic is Rooney's replacement.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

Yes, although with the right transfers he could challenge already in his first imo.
 
Surely Ibrahimovic is Rooney's replacement.
Unfortunately I don't see Rooney going to China. Even if he did though, Mourinho doesn't rotate much and I can't see him signing both Zlatan and Lukaku (if he does what happens to Rashford?). Even if (big one for me) Zlatan is still physically capable of leading the line for a title challenge in the premier league, if we're lucky we get one/maybe two years out of him. Why not just sign Lukaku? Why can't we sign players with their peak years ahead of them? He's 22, premier league proven and has been scoring consistently since he was 18. You have to go with the younger player.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

Right now, I would just take not being as shite as van Gaal has been. Any thing above this will be ok with me.
 
Could Rooney actually start playing well again under a new manager? The majority have been shite under LvG.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?
Depends on what Mourinho we get. If it's the usual Mourinho who comes in, loans out the kids, plays pragmatic football, makes short term signings like Zlatan and acts like a tit then he better make sure he's winning the title within two years otherwise what's the point in hiring him? The only thing that possibly justifies us compromising on our values (and this club does have values regardless of what some think on here) is that he wins shit in the short term.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

That should be the aim. Also maybe a bit more successful first season than we had with van Gaal, maybe winning a trophy.
 
It's not hard to grasp. I don't want Zlatan because he's 33, in decline and the cost of his wages and his personality mean he isn't going to be bought for a bit part role. Therefore he would be our major signing in the striker department. This may mean we miss out on younger, better options.

One of the reasons I want Zlatan is because of his personality, love him. Also still a very good striker, and with players like Rashford, Martial, Memphis, Valencia, Shaw, TFM e.t.c. he is the perfect target man to bring those wide pacy players into play
 
His first! Think positive! :D
Personally I'd be happy for United to finish in the top three for the three years Mourinho is likely to stay. A league title would be an incredible bonus.

We need to ensure City don't pull too far ahead of us when Guardiola's there. I doubt he'll stay more than three years, so if Mourinho can ensure we keep pace with Pep before he fecks off to his next sinecure, that'll be enough for me.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

For me it would be similar to what LVG was expected to achieve, top 4 and a good cup run should be demanded. His second would have to be a title challenge and a decent run in the CL and finally his third season would be to prove it doesn't end in disaster.
 
Mourinho has to be asked to challenge for the title in his first season, after being fully backed in the transfer market.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

To get us scoring goals again. Beating the smaller teams in the league especially at OT by more than 1 goal.


In the league I would want us to be a top 3 team in his first season. A domestic cup would be a bonus.

I want him to use loads of kids in the Europa league and the league cup. It's a great opportunity for us to give youngsters a chance. I feel we have been fielding too strong a team in the league cup for a while now. (Says a lot about us that we don't progress fielding strong teams)
 
This 3rd season nonsense is beginning to grate. It's a complete myth. He has only ever completed two third seasons as a manger, one with Chelsea in 06/07 (Finishing second and winning a cup double) and Madrid in 12/13 where he didn't win a trophy.

He left Porto as reigning European Champions after his second season, he left Inter as reigning European Champions after his second season. It's only this one season where everything appeared to have fallen apart. Mourinho is in no way absolved of responsibility as he is the man in charge, but this constant '3rd season' syndrome that keeps popping up is bullshit, and really needs putting to bed.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

So long as there is progression each season I'll be happy. We have seen none from LVG. The club is in a mess right now, and there are clubs much better equipped to win the league over the next season or two than ourselves.
 
What are peoples expectations on Mourinho if he does become our boss,are people expecting him to win the league within his second season ?

1st season, 3rd place.
2nd season, 1st place.

People need to remember is that though Jose will be our first elite level manager since SAF, he will need to change the playing style of our team completely to get them scoring goals. This will take time.
Basically, all which has been learned over the last 2 years (ie. we must score only 1 goal per game and be ultra defensive), will need to be unlearned*.
I don't think this can all happen over the course of 1 Summer.

Lets also not forget that MCFC (who have a better squad than us), will have Guardiola as their manager. Though I believe Jose is better suited to the EPL than Guardiloa, I still think that our squad needs far more work than MCFC's squad, hence, the first season is merely going to be a season, where a new philosophy is introduced. Fans should not underestimate how difficult this will be.

*There was a point made in the LVG out thread, that LVG is actually doing damage to our players by teaching them this 1 goal per game tactic. I doubt any team in the World would want players who have this way of thinking/playing.
 
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