BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?

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Classical Mechanic said:
Woodward began working for PricewaterhouseCoopers in the accounting and tax advisory department in 1993, before joining J.P. Morgan & Co. as an investment banker in the mergers and acquisitions department in 1999

I think it is fair to say that Woody is well versed in the dark arts of finance.
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As someone who spends everyday working on getting these companies listed on various exchanges, doing M&A and otherwise advising such companies, I believe it is highly unlikely that Woodward and Mendes would be doing anything weird or illegal. There is an army of independent auditors and lawyers making sure of that.

Also, the board will be influenced by the public shareholders and SBC/SAF, not the whims of Woodward and certainly not some nobody (to them) like Mendes. Woodward is at most an employee of the company appointed at the discretion and serving at the pleasure of the board. Does Woodward yield power? Certainly. But he certainly is not running the show.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Tell me about it.

So fed up with peoples obsession with being classy and different. It pissed me off watching Spurs murder us and seeing LvG sit there with his colouring in book. I'd much rather have Jose's dirty tactics, become the most hated club in the World and be feared.
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100% this. In fact, I'd fecking love it!
 
Chesterlestreet said:
I get the non-compete angle, that's plausible enough: We could have reached an agreement of sorts with Maureen months ago, nothing outlandish about that theory.

But it doesn't explain why LVG hasn't been sacked and replaced with the tea lady, who would've been a preferable alternative to a manager who is considered dead and done. If we fail to get 4th and then subsequently announce LVG's departure, questions should be asked.

And it doesn't explain why it hasn't been announced either. The club is not doing well public relations wise. United's global fanbase are either apathetic or livid - a fact which hasn't escaped the journos.

To make the players perform for LVG? Yeah, I don't really buy that. If every ITK and his granny knows about the Maureen deal, the players know about it too. And there's some reason to think they - as a group - aren't all that enthusiastic about playing for LVG in the first place, so the logic doesn't strike me as bullet proof.
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Potentially the reason could be that if the rumours are to be believed that Woody wants Mourinho while the Sirs want Giggs, that Woody may have been afraid that Giggs could've shown just enough to make it difficult to justify his sacking. If Giggs had been given the job in December, we'd continued to play shit-on-a-stick football, but scraped 4th by a point, I cannot foresee Woody having the balls to boot him for Mourinho.

Look what happened with Di Matteo at Chelsea; was made interim manager, managed to win them the CL by sheer force of Drogba, kept the job in spite of lacking experience/quality, played shit next season and was promptly sacked. Now a CL win and scraping 4th are poles apart but it's otherwise not too dissimilar a situation.
 
I wouldn't worry about "prospective signings" and their need to know who our next manager is if it is Mou. Because Mendes would then know it as well and he'd have his hook in, what I'd assume most of our signing next season (in this hypothetical scenario of mourinho taking over). This isn't a criticism. Just an observation. We'll end up signing Mendes clients and precious Jose players, like Zlatan.
 
RedRevongge said:
In my opinion such clauses should be revoked if the club sack him and he doesn't leave from his own free will.
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I have a feeling that according to labour laws, they could've easily got rid of him after the whole physio fiasco. It was definitely a mutual termination with a healthy compensation.
 
Red-Man-Walking said:
Potentially the reason could be that if the rumours are to be believed that Woody wants Mourinho while the Sirs want Giggs, that Woody may have been afraid that Giggs could've shown just enough to make it difficult to justify his sacking. If Giggs had been given the job in December, we'd continued to play shit-on-a-stick football, but scraped 4th by a point, I cannot foresee Woody having the balls to boot him for Mourinho.

Look what happened with Di Matteo at Chelsea; was made interim manager, managed to win them the CL by sheer force of Drogba, kept the job in spite of lacking experience/quality, played shit next season and was promptly sacked. Now a CL win and scraping 4th are poles apart but it's otherwise not too dissimilar a situation.
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Thats a really good point actually. When Giggs took over 2 years ago Ferguson was bigging up his chances right away and saying he could take over full time.

Woodward obviously didn't agree back then and i doubt he's seen much to change his mind since. Giggs being made assistant was maybe placate those in the club pushing for Giggs at the time.
 
I really think that, in light of how things are looking to the rest of us at least, if we had any intention of employing Mourinho, we'd have already announced it. I don't imagine that Van Gaal would be making summer plans and seeming so cool about every poor result if he wasn't assured of staying either.

We really do need Jose though. He'd be hungry, he'd be determined and he's get the immediate respect of the locker room. Imagine how pumped the lads would be for City games vs Pep! The derbys would become one of the biggest events in world football if he managed to attract some top players too!...It's a dream though. The reality will be hard to deal with next season :(
 
Von Mistelroum said:
I really think that, in light of how things are looking to the rest of us at least, if we had any intention of employing Mourinho, we'd have already announced it. I don't imagine that Van Gaal would be making summer plans and seeming so cool about every poor result if he wasn't assured of staying either.

We really do need Jose though. He'd be hungry, he'd be determined and he's get the immediate respect of the locker room. Imagine how pumped the lads would be for City games vs Pep! The derbys would become one of the biggest events in world football if he managed to attract some top players too!...It's a dream though. The reality will be hard to deal with next season :(
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Unless he already knew he was going
 
stevoc said:
Thats a really good point actually. When Giggs took over 2 years ago Ferguson was bigging up his chances right away and saying he could take over full time.

Woodward obviously didn't agree back then and i doubt he's seen much to change his mind since. Giggs being made assistant was maybe placate those in the club pushing for Giggs at the time.
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I don't think Woody has it that easy tbh. Can you imagine trying to keep the two Sirs placated?:D Having said that, Woody's paid big bucks and that means he needs to be able to make hard decisions, never mind who gets pissed off.
 
Red-Man-Walking said:
Potentially the reason could be that if the rumours are to be believed that Woody wants Mourinho while the Sirs want Giggs, that Woody may have been afraid that Giggs could've shown just enough to make it difficult to justify his sacking. If Giggs had been given the job in December, we'd continued to play shit-on-a-stick football, but scraped 4th by a point, I cannot foresee Woody having the balls to boot him for Mourinho.
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I hear what you are saying. Logically it makes sense.
However, given our board, I refuse to believe that they have thought this out so deeply.

Basically, we react. We are not proactive. We do not make plans.
Somebody quits...so we look around to see how is available. When SAF quit, there was no plan in place, it was all made up as we went along (ie. we reacted to the news).
When Moyes was sacked that decision was a reaction to the bad results. Again, there was no advanced planning where he was told in advance that if he was really bad, he was automatically be fired.
Again, with LVG, IMO, we reacted to the bad December.

We are not proactive. Bayern planned Ancelotti's appointment, the moment Pep started OOhing and AAhing. 6 months before he is hired, he was announced.
If it was MUFC in Bayern's place we'd wait for Pep to sign with MCFC, then start looking for a successor, and then miss out on the top managers because we were too slow.
 
Jazz said:
I don't think Woody has it that easy tbh. Can you imagine trying to keep the two Sirs placated?:D Having said that, Woody's paid big bucks and that means he needs to be able to make hard decisions, never mind who gets pissed off.
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Why should they be placated in anyway or form thats half the problem at United not disrespecting either of them but its time that they stood down and let United chart new waters.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
I really think that, in light of how things are looking to the rest of us at least, if we had any intention of employing Mourinho, we'd have already announced it. I don't imagine that Van Gaal would be making summer plans and seeming so cool about every poor result if he wasn't assured of staying either.

We really do need Jose though. He'd be hungry, he'd be determined and he's get the immediate respect of the locker room. Imagine how pumped the lads would be for City games vs Pep! The derbys would become one of the biggest events in world football if he managed to attract some top players too!...It's a dream though. The reality will be hard to deal with next season :(
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A few people on here said virtually the same thing about Moyes 2 years ago and i said the same thing back then.

If United are planning on sacking Van Gaal then just like Moyes he will be the last man to know.
 
Jazz said:
I don't think Woody has it that easy tbh. Can you imagine trying to keep the two Sirs placated?:D Having said that, Woody's paid big bucks and that means he needs to be able to make hard decisions, never mind who gets pissed off.
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I can but i also imagine he knows both those men might still have a lot of sway with the Glazers and members of the board.

I mean the recent renaming of the South Stand, it's unlikely but that could have been done at least in part to keep Sir Bobby sweet with Mourinho's appointment.
 
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Wasted 30 mins of my life watching this and had to get to the last 60 seconds for the amazing and insightful punchline.

As fans, we spend this crazy amount of our time following football clubs because of how it makes us feel. SAF was the bargain of a lifetime: as a non Manchester based fan, I could live inside this amazing feeling for the cost of my satellite subscription: the emotions I experienced were so superior VS the cost, it's impossible to equate.

The fantastical dream that our most successful ever player, who'd played the most games ever and was a genuine one club man for the entirety of his footballing career by winning things as our manager: that would generate feelings of emotion that perhaps even SAF could not provide. An example: let's assume Giggs is appointed and builds this youthful LVG side into Euro champions in 2019 or 2020. It's almost the impossible dream, a complete fantasy.

What Leeds, Blackburn, Chelsea and Manchester City have proved us that you can buy the premier league in 3 seasons if you throw enough money at your team so that option is always open to us. And I also wanted Mourinho to be appointed straight after SAF, I really wish we'd done that as we would have won something in the past few years and so when Mourinho self combusted, which would have been about now, Giggs could have taken over a squad in better shape.

Old Trafford is supposedly the Theatre of Dreams, our match going fans scream 'we're Man United and we do what we want', and every poster on this board yearns for some local young players to be integrated into the heart of the squad. So let's do things our way and not how other clubs have bought thier way to success through mercenancires.

As the chap in the VDO said, it's not my money, I'm a fan and experiencing fantasy become reality is amazing. So on that basis, though I'd be delighted if the board chose Mourinho, I want Giggs as our next manager.

And unlike many here, I think he'll quickly learn the managerial aspect of his job, in terms of experience of the the club itself, the premier league and European Champions League his exposure is second to none. Just because SAF may have got the Moyes call wrong does not mean this is also a bad call.

If it does not work, we are rich enough to sign a galactio manager. And if we aren't rich Enough, then Some Chinese dude will buy the club off the Glazers and make sure we are.

The Giggs one man club fantasy can only happen once. If he leaves to gain experience Elsewhere, it's over.

Am sure this post will be derided and mocked, ( @devilish ) and if it is I'll say just one thing: think like a fan and not as a club owner: look at the romance of Leicester this year. That's why I loved SAF's journey and I'd like that again sometime soon
 
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sammsky1 said:
Wasted 30 mins of my life watching this because I had to get to the last 60 seconds for the amazing and insightful punchline.

As fans, we spend this crazy amount of our time following football clubs because of how it makes us feel. SAF was the bargain of a lifetime: as a non Manchester based fan, I could live inside this amazing feeling for the cost of my satellite subscription. But the emotions I experienced were so superior VS the cost, it's impossible to equate.

The fantastical dream that our most successful ever player, who'd played the most games ever and was a genuine one club man for the entirety of his footballing career: that would generate feelings of emotion that perhaps even SAF could provide. An example: let's assume Giggs is appointed and builds this youthful LVG side into Euro champions in 2019 or 2020. It's almost the impossible dream, a complete fantasy.

Old Trafford is supposedly the Theatre of Dreams, our match going fans scream 'we're Man United and we do what we want', and every poster on this board yearns for some local young players To be integrated into the heart of the squad.

What Leeds, Blackburn, Chelsea and Manchester City have proved us that you can buy the premier league in 3 seasons if you throw enough money at your team so that option is always open to us. And I also wanted Mourinho to be appointed straight after SAF, I really wish we'd done that as we would have won something in the past few years and so when Mourinho self combusted which would have been about now, Giggs could have taken over a squad in better shape.

As the chap in the VDO said, it's not my money, I'm a fan and experiencing fantasy become reality is amazing. So on that basis, though I'd be delighted of the board chose Mourinho, I want Giggs as our next manager.

And unlike many here, I think he'll quickly learn the managerial aspect of his job, in terms of experience of the the club itself, the premier league and European Champions League his exposure is second to none. Just because SAF may have got the Moyes call wrong does not mean this is also a bad call.

If it does not work, we are RI h enough to sign a galactio manager. And if we aren't RI h Enough, then. Some Chinese dude will buy the club off the Glazers and make sure we are.

The Giggs one man club fantasy can only happen once. If he leaves to gain experience Elsewhere, it's over.

Am sure this post will be derided and mocked, and if it is I'll say just one thing: think like a fan and not as a club owner: look at the romance of Leicester this year. That's why I loved SAF's journey and I'd like that again sometime soon
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Parklife!


Ah no. In all seriousness, Giggs' journey would be nothing like Fergie's
 
I like your outlook on Giggs becoming a manager. I share some of that sentimentality but I'm also not extremely nervous or angry like many fans seem to be here. Although inexperienced I can see Giggs doing well straight away because he can build on the pure footballing foundations that LvG has set in training but he'll loosen up the mental shackles that is holding the team back. He'd allow a lot more attacking football and he'd allow players to be adventurous. He'd also command respect from the players because he's Giggs and judging by some of the comments of the players that played under him briefly he does have that certain commanding aura needed to be a successful manager at a top club.

Much of this is grounded in hope because football isn't played on paper but as I see it this team doesn't need a massive overhaul except in the mental department. They need to have fun again because when they do the performance will follow. It goes hand in hand. No team that competes for the title is miserable.
 
sammsky1 said:
Wasted 30 mins of my life watching this and had to get to the last 60 seconds for the amazing and insightful punchline.

As fans, we spend this crazy amount of our time following football clubs because of how it makes us feel. SAF was the bargain of a lifetime: as a non Manchester based fan, I could live inside this amazing feeling for the cost of my satellite subscription: the emotions I experienced were so superior VS the cost, it's impossible to equate.

The fantastical dream that our most successful ever player, who'd played the most games ever and was a genuine one club man for the entirety of his footballing career by winning things as our manager: that would generate feelings of emotion that perhaps even SAF could not provide. An example: let's assume Giggs is appointed and builds this youthful LVG side into Euro champions in 2019 or 2020. It's almost the impossible dream, a complete fantasy.

Old Trafford is supposedly the Theatre of Dreams, our match going fans scream 'we're Man United and we do what we want', and every poster on this board yearns for some local young players to be integrated into the heart of the squad. So let's do things our way and not how other clubs have bought thier way to success t through mercenancires.

What Leeds, Blackburn, Chelsea and Manchester City have proved us that you can buy the premier league in 3 seasons if you throw enough money at your team so that option is always open to us. And I also wanted Mourinho to be appointed straight after SAF, I really wish we'd done that as we would have won something in the past few years and so when Mourinho self combusted, which would have been about now, Giggs could have taken over a squad in better shape.

As the chap in the VDO said, it's not my money, I'm a fan and experiencing fantasy become reality is amazing. So on that basis, though I'd be delighted of the board chose Mourinho, I want Giggs as our next manager.

And unlike many here, I think he'll quickly learn the managerial aspect of his job, in terms of experience of the the club itself, the premier league and European Champions League his exposure is second to none. Just because SAF may have got the Moyes call wrong does not mean this is also a bad call.

If it does not work, we are rich enough to sign a galactio manager. And if we aren't rich Enough, then Some Chinese dude will buy the club off the Glazers and make sure we are.

The Giggs one man club fantasy can only happen once. If he leaves to gain experience Elsewhere, it's over.

Am sure this post will be derided and mocked, and if it is I'll say just one thing: think like a fan and not as a club owner: look at the romance of Leicester this year. That's why I loved SAF's journey and I'd like that again sometime soon
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I have to say I don't care about that kind of thing. I don't have that much fascination with Giggs that I need it to be him who wins us trophies. Mourinho will come in as an outsider like Ferguson did and the trophies will be great.

Also do not care if Giggs leaves and find this fantasy to be strange
 
sammsky1 said:
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Seriously?!

Fergie: Born into a tough working class background, retires from an average footballing career to go into management. Begins at some pile of shite that don't even have a goalkeeper. Gets sacked by his next club, loses his tribunal for wrongful dismissal and get's publicly humiliated by the club's chairman when he says Fergie has no ability whatsoever. Goes to Aberdeen and after a tough start, he does the unthinkable and breaks the old firm's strong hold on the league and defeats the mighty Real Madrid to win a European competition. Then goes to United, who are in a utter state, spends years fixing the club before unprecedented success follows....

Giggs: Born in Wales. Signs for United as a young lad. Becomes one of their greatest ever players, along with being the most successful and making the most appearances for the club. Becomes a coach under the failed David Moyes era. Becomes assistant under the failed LvG era. Currently waiting to get the manager's job at United.....

I don't see any parallels between them :confused:
 
.Rossi said:
Seriously?!

Fergie: Born into a tough working class background, retires from an average footballing career to go into management. Begins at some pile of shite that even have a goalkeeper. Gets sacked by his next club, loses his tribunal for wrongful dismissal and get's publicly humiliated by the club's chairman when he says Fergie has no ability whatsoever. Goes to Aberdeen and after a tough start, he does the unthinkable and breaks the old firm's strong hold on the league and defeats the mighty Real Madrid to win a European competition. Then goes to United, who are in a utter state, spends years fixing the club before unprecedented success follows....

Giggs: Born in Wales. Signs for United as a young lad. Becomes one of their greatest ever players, along with being the most successful and making the most appearances for the club. Becomes a coach under the failed David Moyes era. Becomes assistant under the failed LvG era. Currently waiting to get the manager's job at United.....

I don't see any parallels between them :confused:
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Ferguson earned the United job while Moyes and Giggs would be gifted it really. Both should never have been considered
 
.Rossi said:
Seriously?!

Fergie: Born into a tough working class background, retires from an average footballing career to go into management. Begins at some pile of shite that even have a goalkeeper. Gets sacked by his next club, loses his tribunal for wrongful dismissal and get's publicly humiliated by the club's chairman when he says Fergie has no ability whatsoever. Goes to Aberdeen and after a tough start, he does the unthinkable and breaks the old firm's strong hold on the league and defeats the mighty Real Madrid to win a European competition. Then goes to United, who are in a utter state, spends years fixing the club before unprecedented success follows....

Giggs: Born in Wales. Signs for United as a young lad. Becomes one of their greatest ever players, along with being the most successful and making the most appearances for the club. Becomes a coach under the failed David Moyes era. Becomes assistant under the failed LvG era. Currently waiting to get the manager's job at United.....

I don't see any parallels between them :confused:
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Thanks for clarifying.

I never said they had parallels. What I meant was thinking ahead as a fan, Giggs conquering Europe is a more emotionally enriching experience than say Mourinho doing so.

And maybe that's what the commercial marketing men and the 2 sirs also see: the next 25 years of the clubs sustainable business would be ensured by a successful Giggs rather than a successful mercenary manager.
 
sammsky1 said:
Thanks for clarifying.

I never said they had parallels. What I meant was thinking ahead as a fan, Giggs conquering Europe is a more emotionally enriching experience than say Mourinho doing so.

And maybe that's what the commercial marketing men and the 2 sirs also see: the next 25 years of the clubs sustainable business would be ensured by a successful Giggs rather than a successful mercenary manager.
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Hey, that's all well and good and I'm sure we'd all love a scenario like that. However....

1. The days of a manager having the longevity of a Fergie/Wenger are gone imo
2. I fear for a manager, who thought (and wanted) Rio to be our main centre back last season, if he got the job, when we all know what happened when Rio went to QPR
 
sammsky1 said:
Wasted 30 mins of my life watching this and had to get to the last 60 seconds for the amazing and insightful punchline.

As fans, we spend this crazy amount of our time following football clubs because of how it makes us feel. SAF was the bargain of a lifetime: as a non Manchester based fan, I could live inside this amazing feeling for the cost of my satellite subscription: the emotions I experienced were so superior VS the cost, it's impossible to equate.

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The Giggs one man club fantasy can only happen once. If he leaves to gain experience Elsewhere, it's over.

Am sure this post will be derided and mocked, ( @devilish ) and if it is I'll say just one thing: think like a fan and not as a club owner: look at the romance of Leicester this year. That's why I loved SAF's journey and I'd like that again sometime soon
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No one cares about the fairy tale story behind the manager, just that they are successful. For every Guardiola there are 50 Keane's, Zidane's, Neville's. What difference does it make if its a club legend or a random person from somewhere in the world. I'll admit that Mourinho's style isn't a good fit for United. But that doesn't mean that fans want to watch Giggs stumble around like Moyes trying to figure out how to manage a top flight team. United fans want is someone in charge who makes sure that when they turn their TVs on or go to a match, they feel like they are part of a club that believes and plays like they are second to none. I think Giggs would do a great job embodying this spirit. But so could Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Vidic, Scholes, or any of our long serving players under SAF. But as you saw with Neville and Keane, passion isn't enough. There must also be substance. Giggs has displayed 0% of the substance so far one expects of a manager. Nothing in his time as an assistant manager or brief stint in charge show any aptitude towards being an elite manager. If the club needs to give someone 3-4 yrs to get their act together, then i'm pretty sure we don't have the right person in charge. We have all the resources available to us, there is simply no excuse. A club of United's side can do a little digging and find a manager who's tactically the right fit for the club and also has some experience under his belt. Don't need to compromise with two imperfect choices in Giggs or Mourinho.
 
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No one cares about the fairy tale story behind the manager, just that they are successful. For every Guardiola there are 50 Keane's, Zidane's, Neville's. What difference does it make if its a club legend or a random person from somewhere in the world. I'll admit that Mourinho's style isn't a good fit for United. But that doesn't mean that fans want to watch Giggs stumble around like Moyes trying to figure out how to manage a top flight team. United fans want is someone in charge who makes sure that when they turn their TVs on or go to a match, they feel like they are part of a club that believes and plays like they are second to none. I think Giggs would do a great job embodying this spirit. But so could Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Vidic, Scholes, or any of our long serving players under SAF. But as you saw with Neville and Keane, passion isn't enough. There must also be substance. Giggs has displayed 0% of the substance so far one expects of a manager. Nothing in his time as an assistant manager or brief stint in charge show any aptitude towards being an elite manager. If the club needs to give someone 3-4 yrs to get their act together, then i'm pretty sure we don't have the right person in charge. We have all the resources available to us, there is simply no excuse. A club of United's side can do a little digging and find a manager who's tactically the right fit for the club and also has some experience under his belt. Don't need to compromise with two imperfect choices in Giggs or Mourinho.
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Thanks for replying:

as I said, it's simply a wonderful fantasy... Just like Sir Matt surviving Munich and coming back to conquer the European tournament that killed all his young brilliant players.

Keane, Neville, vidic Scholes etc have a weaker emotional narrative because none are uninterupted one club men or as successful.

It's a very strong and powerful story that reinforces the brand / values of the club that everyone on here seems to be yearning for. If the club can make that fantasy possible, it can be marketed and harvested for decades to come.

Anyways: the bolded bit is interesting for me because I'm not sure who else in world football is the perfect choice. In my opinion that was Klopp or Guardiola but we failed on both fronts. So who is this person?
 
sammsky1 said:
Thanks for replying:

as I said, it's simply a wonderful fantasy... Just like Sir Matt surviving Munich and coming back to conquer the European tournament that killed all his young brilliant players.

Keane, Neville, vidic Scholes etc have a weaker emotional narrative because none are uninterupted one club men or as successful.

It's a very strong and powerful story that reinforces the brand / values of the club that everyone on here seems to be yearning for. If the club can make that fantasy possible, it can be marketed and harvested for decades to come.

Anyways: the bolded bit is interesting for me because I'm not sure who else in world football is the perfect choice. In my opinion that was Klopp or Guardiola but we failed on both fronts. So who is this person?
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Already have a full time job sorry. Don't have time to go analyzing managers around the world. That question should be directed at people who get paid by United for these kinds of situations. Thought i highly doubt we are sophisticated enough to have identified lower profile managers as candidates in case top choices aren't available.
 
United can do better than Mourinho. Look at Chelsea and the way he left them.
 
sammsky1 said:
as I said, it's simply a wonderful fantasy... Just like Sir Matt surviving Munich and coming back to conquer the European tournament that killed all his young brilliant players.
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Come on, sam, that's far too much.
 
SteveJ said:
Come on, sam, that's far too much.
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Don't understand. Anyways I did not intend in any way to offend anyone and sincerely apologize if I did so.

Re the above: it's a fantastical reality that the club has celebrated, marketed and harvested for many years.
 
sammsky1 said:
Don't understand. Anyways I did not intend in any way to offend anyone and sincerely apologize if I did so.

Re the above: it's a fantastical reality that the club has celebrated, marketed and harvested for many years.
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Well, yeah, I guess the club has 'benefited' from a certain narrative about Sir Matt and Munich; I just think the potential Giggs fairytale can't compare to it.
 
It would be fantastic to see Giggs as our manager, but it would certainly also be a big risk that could seriously harm this Club for a long time.

He would be up against Winners like Guardiola, Klopp, Conte, Wenger. I don't see him outsmarting those managers, and our squad isn't good enough to carry him.

If we appointed him i would take it we have lowered our expectations for this club, so i can't see it happening.

Mourinho is the second best manager in the World, we need him right now.
 
Giggs becoming manager and going on to build a successful legacy at the club might be a bit poetic, but that's all it is. It would be in no way comparable to Busby or to SAF knocking Liverpool off their perch. Like comparing the Odyssey and the Iliad to Stig of the Dump.

And it will never happen anyway. Giggs is absolutely nothing like SAF. Not as a player, as a coach, as a manager or as a personality. He'd have even less of a shot at succeeding at United than Moyes had in my book. The manager I'd say he's most comparable to is Ole with his quiet demeanor and methodical approach, just not the attributes you need to succeed managing United.
 
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