The dross we see on the pitch and the effect it has on the fanbase are irrelavent to the people making decisions?
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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End of the season?
I reckon LVG will release a statement that this year will be his last when its mathematically impossible to reach top 4. A club statement will follow later the same day and Mourinho will be confirmed within 2 weeks after.. That sounds like the most amicable way it would go down.
Or I hope :S
Or I hope :S
i.e. after the West Ham game. No reason to hold onto him after that.
My guess is they wont announce Mourinho before season ends no matter the results. To offer him a contract we need to get out of the cup, and have no chance for top 4. Probably the next 2 weeks are decisive for LVG.
Mourinho speaks to Sky. Two days later "Sky Sources" report Zlatan interest in Utd.
Hmmmm.
Hmmmm.
And then Phil Jones will release a statement that just says "The film The Waterboy was based on my life. Okay. Bye."
I believe the Premier League has a rule where any managerial change has to be announced within ten days of the contract being signed.
If the reports are true about a May 1 deadline for us to appoint Mourinho without having to pay him a penalty clause, that means we should expect to see an announcement no later than May 10.
If the reports are true about a May 1 deadline for us to appoint Mourinho without having to pay him a penalty clause, that means we should expect to see an announcement no later than May 10.
You've done it again! This thread is about Mourinho and Mourinho only. Why are you once again hijacking it to talk about Giggs?
Meanwhile in Manchester United HQ, Ed Woodward activates his cloaking device.
Business trips, here I come !
My thinking is that we have Mourinho lined up, but he doesn't want to/can't start before end of the season. We're just waiting for him to take over. LvG is therefore being given the chance to qualify us for the CL and win the cup.
I'm trying to rationalise why the board did not act at Christmas, when it was clear he was toast. If CL qualification was a life-or-death scenario to the board, LvG should have gone much earlier and we could have hired someone else. Unless they already had Mourinho in mind.
I can't get over this either. At least we know Jose will have a plan assuming he signs with us.
Maybe it is true that Jose cannot work in England again until the end of the season.
We are a corporate organization trading on the NYSE, if the executives working for these companies and owners can think up ideas on how to hide their wealth in tax havens and other abominable acts I don't think its beyond Woodward to collude with Mendes to 'doctor' the date on which the contract that gets sent to the PL is said to have been signed. The PL is the least of our problems on this matter, the decision makers themselves are.
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It makes sense that he can't. If I were Chelsea I'd throw in a non-compete in his contract.
United have nothing to lose from announcing him now to be honest, unlike how the announcement of Pep fecked up Cities chances of doing stuff, I reckon our players would actually perform better knowing LVG was out on his arse.
LVG is like the moon presence in Bloodborne, drives everyone fecking mental and leaves us hoping it was all just a bad dream.
LVG is like the moon presence in Bloodborne, drives everyone fecking mental and leaves us hoping it was all just a bad dream.
Apart from not wanting to disrespect the current manager, who I reckon will announce he is leaving at the end of the season. If they have everything done, then there is no reason to announce anything.
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If the board are more concerned about 'disrespecting' a manager who has done an abysmal job here and (likely) left the club without CL football again next season, over their highly disgruntled fans - then they truly are a bunch of bellends.
There is no reason to announce anything if its done. So why bother disrespecting the manager when there is no need to. Its not a case of being MORE concerned about it. It just doesn't need to be done at all.
I don't think 'respect' and 'class' are more important than extracting the club from the doom engulfing the club at this moment. This is the moment where decisions are made by prospective new signings, it will take a shit or stupidly brave player to commit to signing for United with this negativity surrounding the club right now. Putting LVG out of his misery and confirming Mourinho now helps us in our rebuilding plans.
This is a good point, tentative moves behind the doors will be happening (Ibra?) and Mourinho and the positive energy from that announcement would help conceal how fecking abysmal LVG has turned the current crop into.
Read the post, IF we have it done, there is no need to announce it. Player agents can be contacted etc and they can be made known that Mourinho wants them at United (which is apparently what is already happening). So IF that is the case an official announcement to me is not really necessary.
Woodward began working for PricewaterhouseCoopers in the accounting and tax advisory department in 1993, before joining J.P. Morgan & Co. as an investment banker in the mergers and acquisitions department in 1999
I think it is fair to say that Woody is well versed in the dark arts of finance.
Probably didn't want to be too rash with firing him because of a bad run (where injuries played a pretty big part tbf). But it's most likely that like with Moyes, there's a clause in LvG's contract that makes it a lot cheaper to sack him if he doesn't achieve top 4. Moyes got sacked the second it became mathematically impossible for that, and I'd assume the same will happen here. If we get 4th my hope is that we'll get rid anyway and the board would just take the hit with the sacking, but that's me being optimistic.
I think Mourhino probably got a compensation package from Chelsea which includes a clause that he cannot sign for another club until July.
Is it classy to go from being a European powerhouse to becoming alsorans?
Tell me about it.
So fed up with peoples obsession with being classy and different. It pissed me off watching Spurs murder us and seeing LvG sit there with his colouring in book. I'd much rather have Jose's dirty tactics, become the most hated club in the World and be feared.
Agreed
I also think people forgot how much other fans hated Ferguson as well. Granted, he was nowhere near as much a bastard as Mouhrino, but eye poking aside, hes not that bad really
I'm fairly certain there will be, but having already missed out once you'd think the board would have been a bit more keen to act this time around. Especially since Mourinho was (ostensibly) available and there was plenty of time left in the season to get back on track.
I thought that was 'alsations', not 'alsorans'. The club has gone to the dogs.
What's with thread title? devilish got banned?
In my opinion such clauses should be revoked if the club sack him and he doesn't leave from his own free will.
Behave.
Could also be that Mourinho wanted a break to refresh and start fresh in the summer, no matter where we finish, so he doesn't have to do a rescue job mid-way which can have things start off wrong. Like this his bad half season is basically blown over, instead of being fresh in the mind. Also could be true that Chelsea put it in that he can't manage another premier league side until the end of the season as has been rumoured. There's a lot of benefits to a manager taking over at the start of a new season, with a full pre season and transfer window to do as he wants, compared to taking over an injury hit squad with low confidence, not enough quality in attack, and needing to rescue top 4.
We did not necessarily have to appoint Mourinho then (I know that wasn't your point and you were responding to a point specifically about Mourinho) but many a club in that situation have turned to their reserve team manager, Real Madrid did it with Del Bosque and ended up winning the CL. Joyce has been around the club, surely he too knows the club inside out including intimate knowledge of the kids we ended up relying on, basically I'm saying anyone who knew a thing or two about management could have been better than LVG after that run which broke him. If Real Madrid can consider their reserve team manager good enough, twice, then its not outlandish as some might think given that they obviously have higher aspirations than us.
I get the non-compete angle, that's plausible enough: We could have reached an agreement of sorts with Maureen months ago, nothing outlandish about that theory.
But it doesn't explain why LVG hasn't been sacked and replaced with the tea lady, who would've been a preferable alternative to a manager who is considered dead and done. If we fail to get 4th and then subsequently announce LVG's departure, questions should be asked.
And it doesn't explain why it hasn't been announced either. The club is not doing well public relations wise. United's global fanbase are either apathetic or livid - a fact which hasn't escaped the journos.
To make the players perform for LVG? Yeah, I don't really buy that. If every ITK and his granny knows about the Maureen deal, the players know about it too. And there's some reason to think they - as a group - aren't all that enthusiastic about playing for LVG in the first place, so the logic doesn't strike me as bullet proof.
But it doesn't explain why LVG hasn't been sacked and replaced with the tea lady, who would've been a preferable alternative to a manager who is considered dead and done. If we fail to get 4th and then subsequently announce LVG's departure, questions should be asked.
And it doesn't explain why it hasn't been announced either. The club is not doing well public relations wise. United's global fanbase are either apathetic or livid - a fact which hasn't escaped the journos.
To make the players perform for LVG? Yeah, I don't really buy that. If every ITK and his granny knows about the Maureen deal, the players know about it too. And there's some reason to think they - as a group - aren't all that enthusiastic about playing for LVG in the first place, so the logic doesn't strike me as bullet proof.
usually after a loss there's more to look forward to in this thread in the form of tweets from journalists ITK. i don't see anything. someone fill me with me joy?
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