So you wouldn't be surprised if the three most obvious happens? Fair enough, I guess
Exactly. Anything other than those 3 would be totally shocking. Talk about stating the obvious.BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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Exactly. Anything other than those 3 would be totally shocking. Talk about stating the obvious.Gavin Ball is a spoofer
Doesn't his tweet say that Mou people says its all done?
EDIT: Pretty sure not long ago he also said Mou will be United manager in the summer?
Exactly. The other day a story came out saying that Van Gaal is staying next year. He is just making sure that he is not 100% saying Jose will be her next year, so his reputation isn't in tatters. He is the king of that.
Yes
And only one of them will happen
Which one?
I don't know
Andy mitten doesn't know
Do you?
I think he is just reporting no? He says Mous people said its done, so he is actually sticking his neck out there, because if it isn't then clearly thats a lie
I don't, but if Van Gaal stays I will be distraught.
You and me both pal!
Shortly after we hired David 'Mid-table' Moyes and started signing players like Fellaini.
We were out of title contention by October 2013 and haven't had a sniff since. So now it's all about 4th.
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For some reason, I feel less confident in Mourinho being our manager and that LVG will be given another year as I think we'll somehow sneak into top 4(which would be great of course, but LVG staying is eh....).
Ffs
The word "embarrassing" gets thrown around a lot on here, but people like you truly deserve being called it
Ffs
The word "embarrassing" gets thrown around a lot on here, but people like you truly deserve being called it
Great contribution and ignoring the sites rules, nice work.
John Richardson is an utter clown. Would not pay attention to anything he says
Good post
You're making it sound like we were second BVB who was taken from God knows what place to 'nearly' the top and we should be happy about it. Also, the money argument is quite funny because he's spent what, 200 mln quid in two years? And we're not 4th yet this season, it's not granted we will be.
And no, he doesn't know that 1-0 victories are important therefore we play for 1-0 victories, he's just a boring shite and more often than not we're incapable of scoring more than 1 goal. Let's not bend the reality please.
You don't get where he is without having a ruthless streak. It might actually be LvG who is misjudging him.
He never gets anything right.
Gill leaving had a lot to do with Ferguson delaying a bit. If you think about the timeline - I'm not sure how Ferguson purposefully delayed anything. The family bereavement occured in late 2012, and if you give some time to pass for grieving and evaluating, he came to Gill quickly if anything. He mentioned at his autobiography that he was going to tell David GIll the news before Gill said "I have news for you first".. when Gill told Ferguson his decision to leave it affected Ferguson's timelines of announcement to the rest of the board.
I'm not sure if the above is in the book itself (the "Leadership" one) but when I went to a "Talk with Sir Alex" conference in waterloo that was his answer to one of the interview questions.
Anyway to the 'mate in the industry anecdote', I'm quite sure Ferguson didn't want Moyes over Klopp, Pep or Mourinho because he's a 'mate'. Firstly, wasn't Mourinho closer to Ferguson than Moyes was? And didn't Ferguson have other 'mates' like Alardyce? He didn't just want to choose Moyes because he's a scottish chum.
If Klopp was available do you think the talk of whether he's interested wouldn't have materialised into a job offer? It never got to the offering stage because he wanted to finish what he had at Dortmund, not because United didn't want him.
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That's why I put rightly or wrongly.
I personally can't believe he wasn't sacked after the Norwich defeat. But I get the impression he has been told if he gets Champions League then he stays, would that have been my target? no.
There are new stories everyday, it's got to the point where, for me, whatever happens happens. Mourinho wants the job, so lets just wait and see, I would argue after his performance and antics with Chelsea this year, his stock has fallen and he can no longer call the shots.
FWIW, I think he will go back to Madrid.
Why do people think that 4th is some sort of saving grace for LVG?
Its the minimum he is expected to get, Woodward needs him to think he has a job next year and finish this season as strong as possible. If he tells LVG he is out, what motivation does LVG have to finish this season strong? See Pallegrini at City...
Its the minimum he is expected to get, Woodward needs him to think he has a job next year and finish this season as strong as possible. If he tells LVG he is out, what motivation does LVG have to finish this season strong? See Pallegrini at City...
I genuinely think Pelligrini would be in the same position regardless of whether they announced Pep or not. He's a poor league manager.
Woodward and LVG are apparently friends, they live close to one another and they socialise together apparently. I'm not sure Woodward would be this calculating with someone close to him.
I know it's tantamount to sacrilege on this site, but I wouldn't trust Ferguson as far as I could throw him.
He was a brilliant manager and we should be eternally grateful for the success he brought, but as a man I've always found him to be cynical and pragmatic in the extreme - he'll do whatever it takes to get his way (a trait which served him brilliantly as manager of United).
The fact that he initially said Moyes was the No.1 choice, and has now backtracked to say 'well, he was the No.1 choice but only after everyone else had ruled themselves out' is typical. I genuinely don't think we'll ever know the true story of how Moyes was appointed, and if we do get the true version, it won't come from Ferguson.
Fair enough.. but when did initially he say Moyes was the first choice?
Also I agree that no one will probably know the true story.
It never got to the offering stage because Ferguson and United wanted someone else.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/nov/27/david-moyes-everton-contract
First off you have Moyes in November stalling on renewing his Everton contract, when in the past he had signed extensions around that time. Do you think that it's a complete coincidence that after 11 years Moyes starts playing cagey about a new contract the same year Ferguson retires?
Then we have the infamous meeting where Moyes was summoned to Ferguson's house (in jeans no less) to be informed he was the next United manager. It has been widely rumoured that this meeting took place a few months before Moyes claimed it took place in March/April.
We also had quotes from Ferguson himself that he advised Moyes not to renew his Everton contract in Febuary. Personally i reckon this conversation took place well before then, but even if it did take place in febuary that is still sooner in the timescale than when Ferguson spoke with Klopp in April.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-sign-new-Everton-deal-hold-bigger-club.html
And finally back then we had all the talk coming out of United that they wanted a man to replace Ferguson who would stay for years and years and try to replicate Fergusons longevity. So who had the highest chance of doing that?
Mourinho..nope, Guardiola...nope, Ancelotti...nope, Klopp...doubtful or Moyes who just spent 12 years at Everton..Yep
Moyes was and always was the first and only choice from the beginning.
It was rumoured for years by loads of decent journos as well that Moyes was the man who would replace Ferguson. Ferguson was also very outspoken over the years about the fact he thought British managers should get more chances at the big clubs in England. You think after all that talk he was going to retire and choose a German or Spanish coach to replace him? No chance.
Thats most likely why Van Gaal hasn't been told yet, and Mourinho is still just a rumour.
Someone else being strongly linked with your job is a great motivator.
@stevoc That's certainly how it seems, anyway. I've always felt that Moyes was the only choice.
I don't really want to derail the Mourinho thread, but SAF spoke to Klopp in April, Pep was wined and dined in 2012 and Mourinho was forever a favourite that Bobby didn't want. If we look from SAFs eyes, I think thats his 3, the only fact going against that is Moyes not renewing his contract. But its fair to assume he wants to keep his options open.
Why would SAF reach out to Klopp in the first place if Moyes was such a done deal? Anyway as @JohnnyKills - we'l probably never know the truth.
ATTACK OF THE MUTANT THREAD.
I think he was definitely our first choice.
Remember, at that time, MUFC were a club, synonymous with being financially powerful, among the big 4, competing for CL regularly, etc.
I realise that MUFC's stock has fallen now, as we are 4th-7th place club and probably not in the top 20 clubs in EU anymore, but at the time, we were the No.1 club in the country.
Don't forget that being our manager would make that man one of the highest paid managers in the World. (I think Moyes was 8th highest paid manager in the World, after he signed with us).
MUFC, at that time, could've had their pick of managers from around the World, including Jose.
Just like now, the likes of Fergie are oohing and aahing over Jose, they did the same a few years ago.
For me, Moyes was absolutely first choice, chosen by Fergie and the Glazers blindly went with this (why would you disagree with Fergie?).
After Moyes failed, Fergie was left out of the loop and LVG was selected by Woodward.
If we wanted Moyes as a long staying Manager, where does that leave Giggsy as the one after that? A 10 year apprenticeship?
Errrggggh. Don't remind me
Apologies for going off topic from the thread. Anyway - metro says Mendes meets with Woody this week. Although thats the metro..
MEN are saying that too, not that they are much better.
A meeting with Mendes could be related to pretty much anything, not necessarily Mourinho.
Could be anything. We are trying to buy Sanches, Mendes is looking for buyers for James Rodriguez.
he wants us to buy Ronnie back - probably
Here's the story in MEN
Not sure how much is in this article. No quotes or attributions in it - would be easy to make something like this up.
Btw, wonder how season ticket sales are going at the moment? Surely people are waiting until they know who the new manager is going to be, right?
Btw, wonder how season ticket sales are going at the moment? Surely people are waiting until they know who the new manager is going to be, right?
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