BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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Not just his character, there are big questions regarding his style of play and his ability to build a team over the long term
He's played exciting football in the past, so he clearly knows how to set up his team to do it. He's also capable of building a team over the short/medium term, so evidently has the acuity to spot talent. The fact he hasn't done either regularly is as much down to the clubs he's managed as anything else. All his posts have demanded instant success at all costs. At United, he'll be afforded time and be told to build with youth. I have no doubt he's capable of it. If it becomes his remit, I'm fairly certain he'll make it happen.

Above all, his record with youth is the only question mark left over his ability as a manager. His ego won't let that question go unanswered, and an appointment at United is by far his best chance in world football to prove his doubters wrong. He's too good at what he does to be incapable of managing the side slightly differently to how he's done it in the past.
 
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I've seen John Richardson talking about it not happening on Twitter. However, he is famously one of Fergies mouthpieces. It's such a horrible mess.
 
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Jose will be headed back to Madrid at this rate
 
If we feck this up :lol:

The best manager in the world is unemployed for 6 months and we still can't secure him in time.
 
Some papers are running a story tonight that this will definitely not happen.
What do they attribute this to? Is it because of the Dutch article saying VG feels his job is secure?
 
Klopp rejected an approach from us too, so he was presumably ahead of Moyes http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-turned-down-chance-to-become-man-utd-manager.

If SAF had his way completely, Moyes would be 4th behind Pepp Klopp and Mourinho.

Thats a bit of a misleading headline to be honest, it doesn't actually say Ferguson offered him the United job.

In fact one of his quotes is:

I didn't hear about a real offer [from United] but, if there was, I could not have done it. I first had to finish the job with Dortmund and then think about other things.

Ferguson asked a few managers what there plans were but never formally offered them a job, Moyes was the 1st choice.
 
Fergie and Charlton will have us in the Championship with their childish interference.
If he is staying it will be interesting how season ticket sales go. If he gets top 4 and the cup, he might save himself, but if we get nothing then why should he stay on. If they want Giggs it's just so he can be SAF puppet. Look how he always dropped out of friendlies for Wales on SAF orders.
 
Fergie and Charlton will have us in the Championship with their childish interference.
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As much as I'd love to have those two to thank for no Jose at Utd it really is laughable that some of you are falling for this conspiracy theories

The decision makers at this club are Woodward and finally the Glazers, who probably go along with what Woodward wants

Fergie and charlton have no influence over any of the football matters at the club
 
If he is staying it will be interesting how season ticket sales go. If he gets top 4 and the cup, he might save himself, but if we get nothing then why should he stay on. If they want Giggs it's just so he can be SAF puppet. Look how he always dropped out of friendlies for Wales on SAF orders.

Exactly, we need a manager who isn't Fergie's minion and isn't here to train his minion, we need an independent man not beholding to the whims of two old men.
 
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As much as I'd love to have those two to thank for no Jose at Utd it really is laughable that some of you are falling for this conspiracy theories

The decision makers at this club are Woodward and finally the Glazers, who probably go along with what Woodward wants

Fergie and charlton have no influence over any of the football matters at the club

Woodward strikes me as utterly spineless and unlikely to cross what the two old gatekeepers want if he can avoid, regardless of whether they are the ones that tell the Glazers directly.
 
Woodward strikes me as utterly spineless and unlikely to cross what the two old gatekeepers want if he can avoid, regardless of whether they are the ones that tell the Glazers directly.
I'm no fan of woody but I don't see that at all

I do see someone extremely loyal to lvg. And I believe it's true they have become good friends...which is a far more believable reason to keep lvg and not hire Jose rather than these fecking stupid rumours of evil Fergie and Bobby up to no good in the boardroom
 
I'm no fan of woody but I don't see that at all

I do see someone extremely loyal to lvg. And I believe it's true they have become good friends...which is a far more believable reason to keep lvg and not hire Jose rather than these fecking stupid rumours of evil Fergie and Bobby up to no good in the boardroom

If he's not sacking LvG beause they are buddies then that just cements that he is spineless, this is business not a nicety convention. I also can't believe that Fergie, a man used to absolute power, is just sitting there not doing anything or having a huge influence over the club still, the fact all his old players are systematically jumping on the Giggs bandwagon and now his journos in England coming out with the negative Jose stories, is way more than a coincidence, just like Scholes bullshit on punditry is erratic depending on what phase we are in as regards to how close Woodward is to getting Jose in.
 
This. The arrogance of the man makes me hate him more than Moyes.

I want him gone as much as the next man.

But if he has been involved in planning the China tour, it's very harsh to label him arrogant.

It's pretty damn obvious 4th is the goal for him to keep his job (rightly or wrongly). Let's just wait and see.
 
If I wanted my mate to get my job and I worked in a closed industry like top level football management where potential replacements can be counted on one hand and I could track their movements, I'm sure I could delay announcing my decision until my mate is the only realistic candidate left. Why would anyone delay informing their employers a decision with major implications on the future of the business?
It could also be that Sir Alex delayed announcing his decision due to what happened the last time he announced retirement mid-season.

The year was 2002, and the club went to freefall in terms of results. Seeing us on the verge of the title, he didnt want the same to happen again.
 
I want him gone as much as the next man.

But if he has been involved in planning the China tour, it's very harsh to label him arrogant.

It's pretty damn obvious 4th is the goal for him to keep his job (rightly or wrongly). Let's just wait and see.
4th was the minimum last year.

It's the way he struts about as if he is doing a good job. The fact he thinks he should get another year are serving up a worse season than last year, playing worse football, having spent much more than the teams in the top 3.
 
I think Louis is staying. Got a strong feeling that the United board have passed up on Mourinho.
 
Everytime there's seed of doubt in your mind go to previous tweets of the indisputable king of exclusives, Di Marzio.

If he lied, you can punch his face in but so far there's no reason not to believe him. He's got much more to lose than gain from this one as he's already on top of his reporting game.

Maurice also said he's calming the feck down and waiting for the end of the season.

Yoga. Meditation. Fachts vs Reality.
 
I've just seen it mentioned that the story in the Dutch paper has been denied:confused:

What's going on here? I think someone has leaked to the press that LVG is staying. So either is Woodward trying to gently let us know what's coming next season, or it's someone trying desperately to see that LVG stays:rolleyes: I have no bloody clue about any of this. Then the stories about Mendes going to see Woodward to clarify Jose's position - someone leaked that. I don't believe Mendes/Jose would want people to know that it's not a 'done deal'. So who is opening their mouths with this nonsense? Doesn't make sense as I've been on M.E.N. and most fans (some season ticket holders) are bloody mad.

It's going to be a nightmare next season if we start with the VG/Giggs combo again, whilst all these great managers in the league whoop our arses:rolleyes:
 

Most football people think it's done but LVG thinks he's staying :wenger:.

I just hope by the Euros we know one way or the other, it's as mind numbing as the football on the pitch. I'm almost at the point where i don't care what the decision is, just bored of it hanging over us.
 
Laughable that he thinks he's getting another year after serving up such shite this season.

I genuinely believe that LVG doesn't think that his 1-0 and 0-0 scorelines are boring. He probably thinks that this is cutting edge football.
And 4th place seems to be a holy grail for him. It's as if other teams want to finish in 1st place, while LVG wants to finish in 4th place.

With his tactics 4th/5th place is attainable, however, you can never win the league using this 1-0, ultra defensive, risk averse football.
In all sport, to win trophies, you need to take risks; the "safe" players/teams rarely win, but LVG seems to have forgotten this.
 
It's pretty damn obvious 4th is the goal for him to keep his job (rightly or wrongly).

Do you think this is right?
Since when did the 4th place trophy become our target for the season?
Even LFC who have not won a title in decades never set 4th place as their target!
 
I don't think he'll save his job even if we manage to finish 4th. I think the goal for this season was to build on last season's league finish and at least progress into the CL knockout stages. We can't know for sure, but I think there have been more than enough reports from reliable sources to at least make us feel optimistic about having a new manager once the season ends. He can continue with the bullshit excuses all he wants, but I can't see it making any difference when we were atrocious even before the injury crisis.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, though.
 
I genuinely believe that LVG doesn't think that his 1-0 and 0-0 scorelines are boring. He probably thinks that this is cutting edge football.
And 4th place seems to be a holy grail for him. It's as if other teams want to finish in 1st place, while LVG wants to finish in 4th place.

With his tactics 4th/5th place is attainable, however, you can never win the league using this 1-0, ultra defensive, risk averse football.
In all sport, to win trophies, you need to take risks; the "safe" players/teams rarely win, but LVG seems to have forgotten this.
The league was over for us a long time ago. The squad never had the strength to challenge and injuries finished off the chance.

LVG knows 1-0 victories are as important for us now as they were the year under Fergie when we had a lot of them, or as they are now for Leicester.

I think he's right - there's many good things about them. Clean sheets and a sign of team spirit for a start, hanging on to narrow victories.

It's unfair to say Van Gaal sees 4th place as the 'holy grail'. Accuse Wenger of that, but not Van Gaal. He's always had a winner's mentality, but is stuck in a situation where the club need stability, to re-assert themselves as a CL team, and to regenerate and adapt after SAF.

Increasingly, I think he's doing a half decent job. Compare the time and money that Arsene has had, and it's an interesting comparison...
 


Ballbag in the summer: "As I said in April, Mourinho was all done with United in April, they messed him around too long and he decided enough was enough."
 
He's saying nobody knows on the basis that he hasn't been able to find out. As if it's impossible for anyone else to have better placed sources than he does.

It's an entirely pointless article.

As for people on here, there's only one claiming to actually know anything and I don't think anyone is taking him seriously.

Well I guess we are in a bit of a pointless 200 page thread!

We will see what happens!
 
Balague knows how to cover all bases as to not have his credibility crushed. He would never say ''I know it's all DONE'' because if it didn't happen he will look a twat. As soon as some stories come out about LVG staying he throws in ''LVG thinks he's staying'' but doesn't want to look like he is saying the whole Mouriniho thing is bullshit as it will probably happen, so he puts all the stuff about the Jose camp thinking it is on.

At the end of the day he is probably just guessing.
 
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