I believe this is the logical sequence of events, despite the revisionism of SAF and a few others.
Jose cant get here fast enough IMO.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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I believe this is the logical sequence of events, despite the revisionism of SAF and a few others.
Jose cant get here fast enough IMO.
Its typical MEN really.
Longevity without result is the worst scenario
Luckhurst been proven time and time again to know feck all. Annoys me how he gets away with it.
I like him on 8 out of 10 Cats.
No but we did lose possibly the best manager of all time plus our CEO. It is almost certain that the club would suffer a significant impact. Plus we had Moyes which dropped us to 7th.
In that regard, we did need time to stabilise and get back on our feet before sprinting.
Spent 200m but we recouped from sales and lowered wage bill.
It is also ridiculous to say he doesn't know 1-0 victories are important. The Mourinho that many seem to want so badly has had a reputation of playing for 1-0 victories.
I don't think you can tell much about season ticket sales until a day or two after the renewal deadline passes which is the end of May. I never renew mine until just before the deadline anyway as I might as well pay for it as late as possible. I would guess a lot of people do the same even if they know they are going to renew.
It's ridiculous to imply that we grind out 1-0s because he knows that 1-0 victories are important when there are matches where we have whole 1, 2 or 0 shots on target.
And if we finish outside of top 4 then we have massively regressed compared to last season so yea, there goes the stabilisation you're talking about. You could probably make a strong point that even at the moment we've already regressed compared to last season.
The on from 8 out of 10 cats is probably better informed on football.
This is thread is killing me..I click in hope the hope that something concrete has happened, some reliable source has come forward....but alas its same all over again.
This is so much like Muppet season , we cling on in hope something might happen but nothing happens.
Cmon José ,just tell the world you have been in contact with the club, u big gobshite!
This is so much like Muppet season , we cling on in hope something might happen but nothing happens.
Cmon José ,just tell the world you have been in contact with the club, u big gobshite!
I recall one match we had against Chelsea when Mourinho had like two proper counter attacks against us and scored from one, then shut up shop. That's an actual tactic.
League table position is one aspect of the club, albeit an important one. By stability I also refer to coaching, scouting, youth, training, player relationships, politics and commercialisation. Losing SAF and Gill, then getting Moyes was as chaotic as you can get for a behemoth like United.
Loads of reliable sources have come forward and said it's done, plus @Acquire Me is putting his Caf account on the line and is saying it's done. So chill, it probably is, no point announcing it now and potentially derailing our season as we make a push for top 4 while City stumble.
I imagine if Moyes had been a long term success, then they wouldn't have cared so much about Giggs taking over
Mourinho is pragmatic and will at times accept a 1-0 win against a weak team OR if his own team is going through a weak spell. Any top manager will take this view.
However, in the case of LVG, EVERY game we play, he sets up a tactic which enables us to score 1 or 0 goals. Whether we play Sunderland Or MCFC or LCFC - 1 goal is all we tend to score, if all goes according to plan
LVG counts on DDG not to concede a single goal and for us to get 3 points.
To back up my point, these are our last 7 game results:
PL W Man Utd 1:0 Everton 03 Apr 2016
PL W Man City 0:1 Man Utd 20 Mar 2016
EL D Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool 17 Mar 2016
FC D Man Utd 1:1 West Ham 13 Mar 2016
EL L Liverpool 2:0 Man Utd 10 Mar 2016
PL L West Brom 1:0 Man Utd 06 Mar 2016
PL W Man Utd 1:0 Watford 02 Mar 2016
Out of 7 games, we have scored 1 or 0 goals in 100% of them.
Now either this is a massive coincidence or LVG is planning this.
For people who say Jose plays for 1-0, please find me a 7 game run, under Jose, where his team scored 0 or 1 goal per game (as I did above).
What I meant -- and thought I wrote (but perhaps didn't) -- was that LVG could quite legally have a clause in his contract that states that if he fails to meet XYZ criteria in his contract that he could be sacked before the end of his contract with that last year's compensation as provided in that contract being forfeited.
There's nothing in US law that would prohibit the enforceability of such a clause. No idea about the UK, of course.
We're not talking about clawing back what LVG has already been paid...only sacking him before the end of his contract with his future wages not paid to him. There should be nothing wrong with that at all in the UK. A clawback provision would be legally out of order.
And why wouldn't United lawyers insist on such a provision (future wages, not past wages) in his contract? I certainly would, especially in light of what happened with Moyes and it is believed that a similar clause was in Moyes's contract.
All that said, even if United sacked LVG at the end of the season they'd only be saving one's year of his wages if they did activate such a clause. It's believed that LVG earns 7.3m annually and if the club had to eat that cost as the price of sacking him early and going with Jose, it would be a blip on the radar.
The whole point is that it's the final year of his contact, and the only time at which you'd know he'd failed to meet these targets is at the end of the season, by which time he's already been paid his final years salary, or at least the vast majority of it by the time it's shown to be mathematically impossible to achieve those targets.
Thus the clause makes no sense. You're essentially saying you can fire someone a month before their contract is already due to expire.
The only way could take that final years salary off him in to have him repay it.
The whole point is that it's the final year of his contact, and the only time at which you'd know he'd failed to meet these targets is at the end of the season, by which time he's already been paid his final years salary, or at least the vast majority of it by the time it's shown to be mathematically impossible to achieve those targets.
Thus the clause makes no sense. You're essentially saying you can fire someone a month before their contract is already due to expire.
The only way could take that final years salary off him in to have him repay it.
Players and managers have bonuses like ending in the top 4, ending in the top 2, reaching the CL QF, those bonuses are paid at the end of the season. I don't believe in the ITK but that part can make sense.
Yea I know that, I don't have a problem with bonus clauses, it's the termination clause in the final year that makes no sense.
Technically it's not a termination clause and if I'm not mistaken LVG said that he had the possibility to continue, maybe it is an unilateral clause in his contract or an automatic clause, if he reaches the goals he is automatically renewed.
The original guff was
And Spock has been talking about sacking him and not having to pay the final year of his contract.
That's termination, and nothing to do with bonuses, and makes zero sense in the final year of a deal.
As for automatic extension, that's something that I would be hugely surprised about and also think we'd have heard something about it.
Yeah I missed the sacking part, I was still on the original post, we don't have to sack him at the end of his final year, we could though.
It's looks like we are heading for another year of boring football which would then be probably followed by the same philosophy (the united so called way) that brought valencia on its knees
We can learn from when Woody sacked our previous manager. After Moyes failed to finish top four he was sacked with a one year salary compensation. With that in mind isn't it logic to think that we gave LvG a similar set up on his contract. Top four on his first season to continue. Top three or winning a cup the second season and if he wins the league in his third season he will receive a hefty bonus. I would be surprised if there wasn't a result related clause after the Moyes debacle.
I think this is a possible reason why we have contacted Mou and set up a pre contract. We need to cover our basis if we finish outside top four. (three)
I think this is a possible reason why we have contacted Mou and set up a pre contract. We need to cover our basis if we finish outside top four. (three)
Agent appointed by Mourinho reportedly searching for properties in the North West.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag..._-20160407-_-Sport-_-423592763-_-Imageandlink
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag..._-20160407-_-Sport-_-423592763-_-Imageandlink
A few papers seem to think Jose to Madrid is a possibility.
madrid lose, and he is linked.
FFS. If Jose is not the manager come July there will be a total fecking meltdown.
Looking for houses is definitely my favourite transfer rumour.
I like "close friends have told us", some feckin' friends, them.....
Huzzah
As I'm not massively in favour of Jose managing United, I'm going to have a little chuckle to myself when this thread becomes another legendary muppet thread along with Thiago, Benzema, Ramos et al.
It will have the same outcome, too.
It will have the same outcome, too.
But those didn't happen and this clearly is.
All the others were 'clearly happening' too.
"An agent working for the Portuguese is looking for a suitable property in Cheshire."
That's it, that's the sum total of the story. The Sun says it so it must be true.
That's it, that's the sum total of the story. The Sun says it so it must be true.
We are bloody desperate, we will cling to anything.
This thread is becoming like the Vidal thread lets hope it doesn't end the same way.
I come here every day, hoping for news. I fully expect LVG to be our manager next season, regardless of results, but I'd love to see something other than conjecture regarding Mourinho!
There's a lot less variables with this tbf. If I remember rightly Vidal confirmed we'd made an offer, hence the rumours, but he just decided to go elsewhere. With Mourinho it appears that if we want him he's ours.
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It's much more relaxing if you just admit that this is a done dealio. I've done it and not looked back since.
The "Jose to Madrid" stories were inevitable. Whats clear is the press in this country just do not have a clue.
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