No because some how they scripted that awful show to beat some of the best ever teams, when you look at them they would have no chance. Hell they would scripted HU to beat that 2009 Barcelona side
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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No because some how they scripted that awful show to beat some of the best ever teams, when you look at them they would have no chance. Hell they would scripted HU to beat that 2009 Barcelona side
Is that the movie where the final scene unveils Woodward to be scouser in disguise riding off into the sunset leaving United in total disarray, before falling off and mildly spraining his ankle?
Because his wife wanted him to retire? physically he wasn't capable of doing the day to day job and he knew if he stayed on, he would suffer with the squad at his disposal as it needed a major revamp. Better to secure his legacy while he could and then retain influence via indirect means so that if things didn't go to plan, he could avoid blame, if they did go well.. he could take credit for the appointment of certain individuals. It would enhance his legacy. Win win situation.
If Giggs became manager and was successful, it would enhance the SAF legacy.. if Mourinho did well, he'd see a rival for the greatest manager of all time usurp him and further embellish his global reputation. One is an actual threat to his legacy and SAF is a man who is obsessed with powerful historical figures and being remembered, he admits to that in his autobiographies tbf.
All the above is hypothetical but I could definitely see some truth in it - I for one have definitely never believed he truly admired Mourinho. Their relationship always seemed bit one sided.
The very same. Starring Mike Myers as captain Wayne, Brian Blessed as Fergie and Natalie Portman as Juan Mata.
Narrated by Michael Owen.
Yup, it is all from one comment by Sir Bobby as well that he dislikes Mourinho.
You have to pay to post there?
Yeah it's a paid forum. I'm sure tweets like that give them some publicity and get a few people to sign up.
Yeah, it's based on very little at the end of the day. Several years ago, before the appointment and ultimate failure of Moyes, Sir Bobby said that Maureen was a good manager but not the right sort for the United job.
What he thinks now, under radically different circumstances, is anyone's guess. Perhaps he's changed his mind.
Pointless speculation, most of it. We have no idea what influence Sir Bobby has. The little we do know indicates the latter is minimal.
F*cking hell...I'd pay about 5p to read my posts, and even then I'd want change.
I definitely don't think the club has to be defiant about it. Actually seems the logical thing to do.
Have they ever actually had some genuine in the know info? All their so called secret stuff they share between the members never seems real anyway
Just people trying to get attention.
I am 100% certain Mourinho will be our manager next season.
I am 100% certain Mourinho will be our manager next season.
They have no choice, the marker city have left getting Guadiola, Mourinho is a must, it seems everyone but the club itself have said they have Mourinho, and this idea the club want to let VG go out with dignity is a farce in itself, when VG himself has gone beyond that point
They are probably as ITK as our ITK's.
Ah they used to anyways.
They reported Yorkie's fall from grace, Fergie falling out with the board in 2001 etc long before they became public knowledge. That was all in the written fanzine though. No clue about their forum
Hit and miss more recently in relation to their tweets
I want Mourinho, but I don't get this talk. Why is he a must because they have Pep?
The one certainty in all this, is that by failing to act decisively when they needed to, the club have invited all this bollocks and speculation.
Those tweets sound overdramatic and attention seeking. There may be some truth about a disagreement or conflict within the board, but I doubt it's as sensationalized as they imply.
Ah right, but in the days when good info was kept "between mates" rather than being sold to papers or on Twitter.
Now I don't think it's possible to keep something so big a secret long enough.
I was just being sarcastic because of defiantly=/=definitely, but it's not funny now.
Maybe...it never was...
That's the thing isn't it. We don't know of SBC's current thoughts on Mourinho, and we dont know of his current influence. Yet RI have merrily assumed both to suit their agendas and gone to town with it.
But in today's clickbait digital world, SAF is allegedly asserting power through gossip and the media. And it's causing additional pressure and friction for the manager and team.
If RI's claims are true, then the entire Scholes narrative could have been avoided. I think that negativity helped create the conditions for the massacre we endured during December. It certainly did noone working at the club any favours.
Truly ironic and hypocritical given how he demolished the media for such activities during his reign as monarch of the club.
I admire and loved SAF more than anyone during his reign and integrated many of his principles into my own professional career. I don't think I ever saw fit to criticise him even once and always bowed down to his greater knowledge when I did not understand his strategies.
But if RI claims are true, and I think they are, then I'm more than pissed off with him and think he is behaving beyond his scope. He decided himself to quit (as did Gill) and yet now it seems he wants he wants to retain his previous influence but without any official remit. That is the pure definition of destructive office politics. He should immediately be removed from the club forthwith and told to keep his opinions to himself.
We're literally on our fecking knees at the moment and the board still sees Giggs as the next manager?
We are arguably in a worst state now than when Moyes got sacked.
Woodward, if you're reading this mate then grow some fecking balls, tell Fergie to feck off and do the right thing for the CLUB!! Appoint an experienced manager for God sake!
We are arguably in a worst state now than when Moyes got sacked.
Woodward, if you're reading this mate then grow some fecking balls, tell Fergie to feck off and do the right thing for the CLUB!! Appoint an experienced manager for God sake!
I agree in some cases, Manchester United need a manager with pulling power.
If you don't believe in a manager or his tactics then it's a hard sell for other potential players, Guardiola represents something in football, as does Simeone and Ancelotti.
LvG feels like he is ready for retirement as a football manager, he's lost players at this stage.
Remember under Sir Alex when "We don't lose two games in a row, it's how we respond to this loss that matters" was a corner stone of his operations as a manager? that's gone now.
There needs to be inspiration and leadership in that dressing room, right now its deflated turgid football and I don't think Giggs can bring that, Mourinho is a motivator and as long as he's learnt from his latter stages at Chelsea he is what the club needs at this stage.
With Mourinho it feels like he's the next best thing available to Pep, the club is "settling".
They made zero contact to Pep when he was available, it shows how there's a lack of decisiveness by the Glazers and Woodward, the club should go in with the notion of we're still the best and we're going to bring the club back.
Manchester United is second best to City now, that's how the club is being conducted.
Seems to me that in online media, you have to do two things well: headlines and timing, in order to get clicks. News/rumors yesterday broke of Mourinho possibly joining us behind the scenes, many United fans all around the globe now thinks it's sealed. He's the new manager. Very easy, then, to make a contrary report/rumor; to draw the attention of the said group of fans who desperately wants a change in the managerial position. Seems very convenient.
I have no clue as to what SAF does or doesn't do but I have no doubt that the CO92 have decided to help Giggs get the manager's job. It is obvious when you see when and what they criticize and what and when they choose to ignore what is worthy of criticism. There is clearly an agenda.
It doesn't even take any insider info. The subtext is clear.
It doesn't even take any insider info. The subtext is clear.
Serious question, but why do you believe RI claims are true? Apologies if you've answered this elsewhere...
Some of that Redissue stuff sounds very familiar to what @ukbob told us last week, which makes me really worry about it all being true.
If the players and LVG are so precious as to be so badly stung by criticism that it affects their work, then they're in the wrong professions. I didn't let it affect me when my every touch was booed while playing for a school football team; mind you, I was 26 and everyone else was 9 but the point holds.
You're a Nigerian transfer student?!
Yes.
That's rubbish at football?
It's not my fault that I'm exceptionally old for my age.
Rooney influence at the club far exceeds his footballing contribution! LVG publicly stated 'special privileges' which I personally believe are written into his contract.
And despite his overall form this season, he is the only globally recognised player we have that helps bring in sponsorship revenues.
And many on here commented all season long that Rooney was immune to criticism from Scholes and the English media.
Lets not forget since SAF left, there has been a power vacuum as neither manager could asset himself due to terrible team performances. With the majority of SAFs old guard ejected from the dressing room Rooney is suddenly more powerful than any other club captain in recent history.
So yeah I can see what RI said about Rooney being given true.
Because who else is out there? keep VG? appoint Giggs?
I've also thought this. Wasn't there something years ago about him having input in all our transfers?
Let's hope so. He may be a twat. But he is also a winner.
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