BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho

Would you be happy to see Jose Mourinho become next United manager?


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I don't believe the Red Issue stuff, I think it's as simple as Mourinho not being able to take the job until the summer and Woodward being either unable or unwilling to give Giggs the job until then.
 
Exactly! I can't see it myself but all the bloody women in my office go nuts for Jose:confused: Even the conservative gals:eek:

My mum's the same, and she's only seen him on Gogglebox. "He's like Gene Pitney," she warbles. Something's gotten hold of her heart.
 
These tweets makes Fergie look like Frank Underwood rather an ex-football manager tbh.

RI have disliked Ferguson even when he was the manager, so I think there's bit of a bias coming through in these reports.
 
I feel I may need to take a sabbatical from Manchester United at this rate, for my sanity. Although the apathy is near complete.
 
If any of that is remotely close to being true then the likes of SBC and SAF aren't doing the club any favors, they both ned to put their egos aside and let the club move forward rather than hanging around trying to influence things to suite them.
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Whilst I strongly agree with you, I also understand SAFs motives. I doubt it's simply for power, moreso because he invented the Manchester United algorithm and is aghast with horror at just how badly we are fecking it up. His instincts are telling him that Co92 is the best way to regain our former position and is doing everything he can to make that happen.

The other interesting thing is the Moyes angle. I think its crystal clear that SAF wanted Moyes because he thought he would be his puppet. But then Moyes decided to screw SAF over by taking his own decisions .... ie: sack all SAFs support staff and abandon all the transfers that had been lined up. Unfortunately Moyes also failed big time, so by the time choice for new manager came, SAF was locked out and has been ever since.

Of course the problem is its not his right to do so, its not his job, and he should not interfere. But I guess that easy for me to say as I did not invest the last 26 years of my life creating an unprecedented sporting machine only to see it hit clusterfeck the day i left. So I think SAF is totally in the wrong, but its easy to understand why.
 
Red Issue HQ:

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"Hur hur let's invent some rumours and wind up those softies at RedCafe."
 
RedCafe should tweet the collection of conspiracies we come up with here. That's all Red Issue have done. They've an agenda against Ferguson, Woodward and the Glazer's for different reasons so just so happen to stumble across a theory that makes Fergie, Woodward and the Glazers look bad. Fancy that.

So popular they don't even have their own domain-based email address '@btinternet.com'
 
I think its all true. And none of these claims are rocket science either. However rather than it being about power politics, I think that both SAF and Woodward all have the clubs best interest at heart, they simply have different opinions.

The key thing though that pisses me off is SAF still wanting influence. If he did, he should be transparent and have a proper footballing role at the club. But he does not, he is a marketing tool. And so he is repeating all the same mistakes we made with Busby.

Power is never given nor a right no matter what ones job title might be: Power has to be taken. And Woodward has to take a risk if he wants to assert his power.

That risk must be to immediately sack LVG and in his place hire Mourinho. If Giggs leaves, he leaves.n In doing so, he will also cut SAF and his cronies at the knee's.

Appointing Giggs is a bigger risk to his own political position. If Giggs fails, Woodward gets the sack. If Giggs does well, the credit and power goes to SAF, so Woodward effectively also becomes simply a puppet.

This is a big boys business, and people like Woodward are handsomely padi to deal with such organisational dynamics and tough choices. And Woodward is failing on that count right now.

That is probably why I think the club are defiantly going for Mourinho, especially after how big of a disaster Moyes and VG have been
 
I don't know where this 'Fergie hates Mourinho' argument/point comes from. Sir Bobby I can understand but I doubt it's case with Fergie. I remember him saying that he sees himself in Mou. There was a series on football's best managers in 2012 and in episode on Mou, Fergie speaks extensively and glowingly about him. He points out how Mourinho improved work ethic of Galacticos at RM. When asked if he sees Mourinho managing United one day, he says, "Jose can manage absolutely anywhere."
 
If Sir Alex was so power hungry he would never have retired.
Such bullshit.
 
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I don't necessarily believe this, but having two boards with likely two completely different ideas about what is good for the club could lead to problems.

Except in this case, the one board has no power over the club, and the other group includes the CEO, Commercial Director of the club. There's no clashing between the boards. If we even believe RI's tweets, they clearly say that Fergie and Gill have been left with little or no power.
 
So we what can we come up with from those RI tweets?

I came up with Woodward is a pussy, despite having the power he doesn't know what to do with it. We don't need RI for that.
 
In the end it's the Glazers who will decide. Hopefully Emperor Fergustine will not Jedi mind trick them.
 
So we what can we come up with from those RI tweets?

I came up with Woodward is a pussy, despite having the power he doesn't know what to do with it. We don't need RI for that.

That RI are fecking idiots who are jealous of Recafe's standing as the biggest United forum on the internet.
 
Except in this case, the one board has no power over the club, and the other group includes the CEO, Commercial Director of the club. There's no clashing between the boards. If we even believe RI's tweets, they clearly say that Fergie and Gill have been left with little or no power.
Yes and CO92 brand for managerial position holds no ground among supporters. Just a scan of social media comments shows that very rarely any fan asks for Giggs to replace LvG. Surely club can see that. Any survey anywhere will overwhelmingly be in Mourinho's favour.
 
Not really a fan of Woodward at all, but wonder if he's trying to give Van Gaal a decent exit and is, amazingly, showing some balls by not pulling the trigger?

Expensive display of generosity though.
 
I don't know where this 'Fergie hates Mourinho' argument/point comes from. Sir Bobby I can understand but I doubt it's case with Fergie. I remember him saying that he sees himself in Mou. There was a series on football's best managers in 2012 and in episode on Mou, Fergie speaks extensively and glowingly about him. He points out how Mourinho improved work ethic of Galacticos at RM. When asked if he sees Mourinho managing United one day, he says, "Jose can manage absolutely anywhere."
Even the sir Bobby said comes from one particular interview. For some reason, it is now taken as fact that the sole purpose of the existence of Sir Bobby is to veto the appointment of Mourinho.
 
I don't know where this 'Fergie hates Mourinho' argument/point comes from. Sir Bobby I can understand but I doubt it's case with Fergie. I remember him saying that he sees himself in Mou. There was a series on football's best managers in 2012 and in episode on Mou, Fergie speaks extensively and glowingly about him. He points out how Mourinho improved work ethic of Galacticos at RM. When asked if he sees Mourinho managing United one day, he says, "Jose can manage absolutely anywhere."

Yeah, I can't imagine SAF going through a whole ruse of stringing Mourinho along for 5 years by praising him again and again in an attempt to hurt him by not offering him the job 5 years down the line. Imagine SAF sitting there plotting for 5 years on how he'd humiliate Mourinho. The thought is simply too stupid to believe. There's clearly a mutual respect between the two.

SAF is pretty open in general about who likes and doesn't like. If he didn't like Mourinho I'm sure it would've come out at some point.
 
Exactly! I can't see it myself but all the bloody women in my office go nuts for Jose:confused: Even the conservative gals:eek:

Jose would also attract the stars that Ed seems to covet. Unfortunately, Ryan wouldn't.

My missus is pretty religious and even she'd get her minge out for Jose.
 
Not really a fan of Woodward at all, but wonder if he's trying to give Van Gaal a decent exit and is, amazingly, showing some balls by not pulling the trigger?

Expensive display of generosity though.
I think he actually has very little choice. Mourinho won't start before the summer, Giggs doesn't want to be interim again, and there's no real Dr. Fixit's available to hire as interims either.
 
Even if 99% of it is bullshit (which it is), the movie they'll make about these couple of years is going to be way more entertaining than the football.
 
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