Do you actually believe everything you read in every newspaper?I wake up seeing that disgusting article in the Mirror and am totally depressed. I hope it's made up shit. But if a Giggs supporter is leaking this shit, I despair. Most worrying is the bit at the end of the article saying Ryan would need assurances if he were to go into a third stint as ass manager - are you fecking kidding me?
Are we just going to shove him on to every new manager's staff? How stupid is that? Is that what the hold up is about? I doubt Jose or anyone else will put up with that kind of shit. What are Giggs' supporters afraid of? Send him out to do his thing and prove himself. Why can't he leave the club? Is he so much of a coward? Or does he and his supporters know deep down that he's totally unsuitable and only through political means can they get him the job?
Finally, where are the fecking Glazers?! It's their club - make a decision and send Ryan on his way if he's stopping us from progressing. I swear the fans need to let the club know exactly what they think of this because Ryan doesn't seem to get how many fans are opposed to him getting the job at this point in time.
BBC: United hold talks with Mourinho
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It better be bollocks. I swear us fans need to let the club know how we feel about this happening. His supporters in the club consists of Sir Alex, Sir Bobby - the Glazers really need to put their foot down. I also have a suspicion that this is holding us back from going ahead and getting Jose.
Ryan and his supporters at the club - please for the sake of the club - stop pushing this (sigh)
Guys, it's the fecking Mirror reporting. Every reliable source says Mou, the unreliable ones say Giggs, I know who I believe!
No I don't. I actually pointed out if it's true.
It worries me as well because all the papers have mentioned that Ryan does not want the interim job - but holding out for the top job. This makes me super uneasy. My feeling (it's my feeling) - is that there is some truth to this and it worries the shit out of me.
Giggs stuff is surely bollocks.....
the Class of 92 and Mourinho teams both using the media well
this simply sounds like clickbait though - how many desperate United fans will read that today
the Class of 92 and Mourinho teams both using the media well
this simply sounds like clickbait though - how many desperate United fans will read that today
Hope you're right. Just wish they'd fecking announce it now so we can move on.
Yes let's hope so, desperate and bloody depressed united fans!
Reliable sources and whatnot aside, till there is an actual concrete announcement that Mourinho is our's, we shouldn't underestimate the stupidity of our board and that clown Ed Woodward. Giggs might well get the job. We've shown this season that we're capable of anything on the negative spectrum of things.
Yeah me too, it'll put everyone's mind at ease when it finally is announced!
If i knew in advance that both Giggs and Mourinho would be a success if appointed i would choose Giggs of course.
But here we have a man who has the experience of 4 games in charge against a manager who has won an impressive amount of trophies and is one of the best managers around.
There is the chance that Mourinho could turn out to be a failure too, but when put up against each other it's a much better bet to put the Money on him, it's no discussion.
I do admire Giggs that he has the courage to take on the Utd job, it's not exactly because he has nothing to lose.
If he gets appointed and becomes a failure his status as a legend could be seriously damaged.
But here we have a man who has the experience of 4 games in charge against a manager who has won an impressive amount of trophies and is one of the best managers around.
There is the chance that Mourinho could turn out to be a failure too, but when put up against each other it's a much better bet to put the Money on him, it's no discussion.
I do admire Giggs that he has the courage to take on the Utd job, it's not exactly because he has nothing to lose.
If he gets appointed and becomes a failure his status as a legend could be seriously damaged.
Regardless of who is posting stories about Giggs is taking over, surely if he was, he'd be in the job now?
Surely the only reason LvG hasn't been sacked is because they have no other option at the moment (Giggs not prepared to be interim and maybe Jose has some clause with Chelsea this season)
Surely the only reason LvG hasn't been sacked is because they have no other option at the moment (Giggs not prepared to be interim and maybe Jose has some clause with Chelsea this season)
That makes way more sense. Thanks
I think it's just a case of one source carrying the story then the rest picking it up, adding their own slant and carrying it on. It's all too easy in these days of the internet.
Normally I would agree. But in this case, my feeling is it's not courage that he has - I think he's completely deluded here. He thinks with Sir Alex in the background, everything will be fine and as he's so admired by us the fans, we would be mega patient with him etc etc. He's not thinking about this logically - not thinking beyond his ambition. The wise thing for him would be to go away and get his experience elsewhere - build up a body of work and reputation. He should know that he'd always have a chance if he achieves certain things, because we are never having anyone else staying around for 20 + years.
But mostly, I blame the people who should know better - encouraging him to think he can fix this huge problem we have now. Surely they don't care about his emotional well-being? Mark my words, he will never ever get over a failure as manager of United.
Whatever the outcome, this whole affair has been handled appallingly by Woodward. If there is division within the club about whether to sack Van Gaal and/or who to replace him with, it's his job to bang heads together and come up with a suitable strategy.
The club is giving the impression of being paralysed by fear of not knowing what to do.
The club is giving the impression of being paralysed by fear of not knowing what to do.
You literally completely made that up.
Some of you deserve Giggs as the manager for being fecking fannies.
I hope so. This waiting around for the club to make some kind of decision is really shit. Honestly, I've never known a more cowardly bunch than our board. No bloody balls on display there.
Our board's stupidity is the thing that worries me....
Mourinho at United is box office though..... he can attract the players Moyes, Van Gaal and Woody can't - Surely even a clueless board can't lose sight of this
Then again Woodward called Van Gaal a genius in December
No I didn't. I said it's my feeling - meaning it's my personal take on it. What I'm not allowed to give my personal opinion here
You literally completely made that up.
Some of you deserve Giggs as the manager for being fecking fannies.
What is this forum? North Korea?No worse than the shite you spew in the Memphis thread.
You literally completely made that up.
Some of you deserve Giggs as the manager for being fecking fannies.
The shite that I think Memphis is shite? Ok then
Yes, as I've just said in another post the club is giving the impression of being paralysed by fear of not knowing what to do. As CEO it's Woodward's job to sort this out and make decisions for better or worse. He's doing a very good impression of someone hiding behind the sofa, hoping it all just goes away.
Memphis isn't shite...............he'd need to improve to reach that level!
It's very strange to me because for all he's achieved, you would think he's more decisive and frankly ruthless than he's showing at the moment. It's absolutely incomprehensible.
If someone believes that Depay is shit, and has actually thought that for a while, not just when it came into vogue, then we need to take their opinions more seriously. Just my 2 cents.
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He certainly seems to be out of his comfort zone. One of the problems of having a money-man making football decisions.
I wonder who Mourinho will sign? He always has his own players in mind to suit his style and once he's appointed he'll pretty much have as much money as he wants.
I actually think Woodward and co think that the fans would love it if Giggs were appointed. I don't go along with the idea that he'd already be appointed if he were going to be. I fully expect that he'll get the job in the summer otherwise there's no reason we'd not appoint and announce Mourinho now. Van Gaal knows he's failed, accounting a change to Mourinho in the summer would put an end to the constant ridicule too.
It hasn't happened because they're hoping Van Gaal will come good so they can go ahead with plan A, which is Giggs, as they can hardly chuck him in front of the bus to shoulder some of the blame for this season.
It hasn't happened because they're hoping Van Gaal will come good so they can go ahead with plan A, which is Giggs, as they can hardly chuck him in front of the bus to shoulder some of the blame for this season.
Get out! You're not allowed to post sensible stuff like that
Exactly. Giggs would've been given the permanent job if they really wanted him as a successor. It's clear as daylight Woodward etc don't want Giggs as our next manager and hence the delay in sacking van Gaal.
Actually there's several very plausible reasons why Mourinho can't be announced now all mentioned in this thread.
I think it's pretty apparent that there are huge disagreements behind the scenes re Jose coming in. We've got the Giggs camp (SAF, SBC, and Co92 all self appointed as some sort of protectors of United's historical values) versus the Jose camp (the modernisers, forward looking, pragmatic)
I think Jose will come and can see us losing SAF, SBC and Giggs as part of the club and I'm unsure if that's a bad thing or not.
This sounds more likely. He wants to wait for an offer from us. But I don't think it'll come
This sounds more likely. He wants to wait for an offer from us. But I don't think it'll come
according to Moratti's sister its done and dusted. No one refuse Inter without having a firm offer in hand
Considering the club's entire success has been built on being the most innovative and forward thinking club in England.. I really wish we go down the modernising route. We have had a succession of three dinosaurs. SAF near the end, archaic style of play but grinding out results. .. Moyes, hoofball and no idea of how to play modern day football and LVG.. playing modern football from the 90s.
It's been a joke.
This sounds more likely. He wants to wait for an offer from us. But I don't think it'll come
It has. His our next manager.
You better be right Mr Acquire!
Agreed. I've love it if we could remain successful and relevant whilst keeping great servants of the club at the helm but we can't keep them there if they're holding us back.
I was anti Jose coming in initially but our decline is picking up pace and anyone who stands in the way of halting that decline and making progress, unwittingly or not, needs moving aside.
All organisations have to change over time or they become increasingly less relevant and effective. Let's hope the Glazers realise that if they want to continue to milk this cash cow some changes are due and due now.
He only wants Utd because we're his only option - where else is there for him? We have options but he doesn't.This sounds more likely. He wants to wait for an offer from us. But I don't think it'll come
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