So are you thinking he might actually want to leave his home club? And what is considered an acceptable fee?
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So are you thinking he might actually want to leave his home club? And what is considered an acceptable fee?
Schweinsteiger would fit in nicely here. Sounds like the transfer fee would be reasonably cheap as well. Only question would be his ability to stay healthy.
I'm not sure it's a huge gamble exactly. Even if the worst happens and his injury problems continue we'd still be rotating between Schweinsteiger, Carrick and Blind for one position across the season. Hardly a nightmare compared to some of the positions we've been in at other points. Add in the fact that he'd be cheap and wouldn't hinder us by taking up a squad position for years to come (particularly since Carrick probably only has one more season before he goes too) and it seems like a fair risk for someone who (in the best case scenario) would easily be our best midfielder.
I'd be happier if we signed someone else in midfield too but in isolation I think this might be a smart move on our part.
OMG, YES!!!!
If I was impressed about any player in recent memory...it was him and Thomas Muller. Brilliant, both of them!
If I was impressed about any player in recent memory...it was him and Thomas Muller. Brilliant, both of them!
I think he will leave this or next year - and that is actually that what most believe here. He will not leave for the MLS or the Arabian countries this season because of the Euros.
He actually is in Munich right now just on training days and match days - the rest of it he usually is jetting through the world. Don't forget that his girlfriend is part of the tennis circus. As he e.g. spent the time from Sunday to Tuesday in Mallorca together with her and both set of parents it seems it is getting more serious than just "friendship".
Acceptable fee - nothing that hurts the clubs or would handicap him. Similar to Alonso last season.
Thats debatable. I´ll keep this short, because this has not much to do with the topic itself. I spend one year in school in San Francisco, six months each as adult in London and NYC and the rest of my life in the Berlin area. From my personal experiences the closest to home in terms of culture and lifestyle was New York with Sports preferences being one of the biggest differences. That time really showed me how much American culture actually influences the German day to day life, which is actually quite logical given historical elements.
It is difficult to compare whole nations in terms of lifestyle anyway, because they can be huge regional differences. I could actually see the culture shock being greater from the change of living in a metropolis like Munich to staying in a smaller industrial city like Manchester compared to another metropolis like NYC.
I've wanted us to buy him for years. If the deal adds up, I still want us to buy him.
This would be brilliant. Even if he's only healthy for 2/3rds of a season, we could throw out:
---------Rooney---------
-Memphis-Mata-DiMaria
---S'steiger-Herrera---
as a front 6 that would just dominate teams, and bring in Carrick for one of the trio behind Rooney when we're in tougher games.
Even if we only got 2 good seasons out of Schweinsteiger, that would be easily worth the 10-12 mil or so you figure Bayern would squeeze out of us.
Pep has been using him higher up the pitch than he should play at this point in his career but he still looks decent. I think he'd be great for us in a deeper role.
---------Rooney---------
-Memphis-Mata-DiMaria
---S'steiger-Herrera---
as a front 6 that would just dominate teams, and bring in Carrick for one of the trio behind Rooney when we're in tougher games.
Even if we only got 2 good seasons out of Schweinsteiger, that would be easily worth the 10-12 mil or so you figure Bayern would squeeze out of us.
Pep has been using him higher up the pitch than he should play at this point in his career but he still looks decent. I think he'd be great for us in a deeper role.
I don't know who his girlfriend is so I didn't know he was zooming around following her Tennis matches, I am surprised though that fans expected and accept him leaving, I thought he'd be like Scholes and Giggs and retire as a one club man.
So the £10M figure could be accurate?
Fair enough, I always feel like America is a world unto itself but you are speaking from experience so I can't dispute that.
His girlfriend is Ana Ivanovic.
The fans dont want him to leave, but if he wants to nobody would hold a grudge against him. The club will never force him to leave, but he isn´t one of the "irreplaceable" guys anymore since Pep joined us, so if he wants to leave they´ll let him go. In the end its his decision. Does he want to play in another (meaningful) league for another big club? Does he want to to take on a fresh challenge before his career ends? Is he happy with his current role?
My personal guess is (wild speculation!), that he has an eye on the next European championship. He really wants to win that tournament, so he´ll do everything to be 100% ready. If he is unhappy with his perspective for the next season, joining United would become a great opportunity.
The fans dont want him to leave, but if he wants to nobody would hold a grudge against him. The club will never force him to leave, but he isn´t one of the "irreplaceable" guys anymore since Pep joined us, so if he wants to leave they´ll let him go. In the end its his decision. Does he want to play in another (meaningful) league for another big club? Does he want to to take on a fresh challenge before his career ends? Is he happy with his current role?
My personal guess is (wild speculation!), that he has an eye on the next European championship. He really wants to win that tournament, so he´ll do everything to be 100% ready. If he is unhappy with his perspective for the next season, joining United would become a great opportunity.
Someone just told me he is 30 lol, I thought he was the same age as Pirlo/
Actually he's 31 in August.
Munich is a lot closer to Manchester than it is New York IMO.
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Greater Manchester is almost as big as Munich? Never considered Munich a metropolis. Nor Madrid, Barcelona, or Berlin. They always felt a lot more like oversized towns than NYC/London/Bangkok and he likes...
If he's available for a reasonable fee and wages, it sounds like a great move.
Yeah, I don't particularly want him here, but for £10m you really can't go wrong. Even if he declines for the next four years, he'll still be better than most midfielders in the league. On form he's one of the best in the world. So, if that fee is accurate this could be a great transfer. If we're paying £20m+ then I'd be a bit more hesitant -- I still associate Bayern with that crock Hargreaves.
Where are people getting this 10m tag from? If true we'd be idiots not to move for him. Also, if it means seeing Ana at OT now and then 
a better option than de jong obviously but 3-4 years to late imo.
for a low fee but then why not. could buy us an extra few years to get the long term replacement for carrick if we didn't get one this summer.
for a low fee but then why not. could buy us an extra few years to get the long term replacement for carrick if we didn't get one this summer.
Hasn't he become seriously injury prone in the last couple of years? Would have loved to have him a couple of years back, terrific player when fit.
Ballack, Gattuso, Modric and him have been, at different times, my dream signings for our midfield in the last 10 years.
Edit: He is dating Ivanovic? What happened to Sarah? She is a beauty. I thought that was going to be one of advantages to having him here: Sarah in the stands.
DO NOT WANT.
Ballack, Gattuso, Modric and him have been, at different times, my dream signings for our midfield in the last 10 years.
Edit: He is dating Ivanovic?
What happened to Sarah? She is a beauty. I thought that was going to be one of advantages to having him here: Sarah in the stands. DO NOT WANT.
From Sarah Brandner to Ana Ivanovic, well played Bastian.
For 10 million is a no brainer really. We seriously lacked composure and penetrative passing when Carrick was out. He'll bring both and more in our midfield
For 10 million is a no brainer really. We seriously lacked composure and penetrative passing when Carrick was out. He'll bring both and more in our midfield
Where are people getting this 10m tag from? If true we'd be idiots not to move for him. Also, if it means seeing Ana at OT now and then
The 10m is an estimation. But one that matches. He has one year contract left and the club will accept whatever he wants to do. A similar case to Alonso last season, but he is 2 years younger. Makes the fee a little higher. But no sum that would be a handicap.
Actually it looks like it would be Ana Schweinsteiger soon.
I won't mind him at all. Nothing wrong with having an experience player like him. We have a young group. Will the people saying no turn down Scholes at the age of 31? Pirlo moved to Juventus at the age of 32.
We should be trying to sign the next elite midfielder not a great midfielder who seems to be on the decline.
Again, it's clear that this isn't a case of either/or. Schweinsteiger is the kind of signing that you make on top of your identified targets. He's too good to pass on.
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Van Gaal considered Schweinsteiger last year but he wouldn't have left Bayern and then got injured. Situation different now. #mufc
signing a 30 year old midfielder on big wages with quite a few injury issues is not a good route to go down.
we should be building a team not looking for stop gaps.
we should be building a team not looking for stop gaps.
People are looking at this issue from a wrong perspective, Schweinsteiger coming here is ideal when we look at the young players we have coming up. He is at an age where in two years time he won't be able to be a regular starter for us and that's ideal because we have Perreira and Pearson, who would not only be ready to take over but should also benefit from training and playing with such an accomplished superstar. Provided that he is not the only midfield signing we make, he is more than welcome here.
Our CM options according to redcafe:
Gundogan -> just came back from a big injury, does not look back to his best, do not want.
Strootman -> too many injuries, it's over for him, do not want.
Vidal -> just recovered from a knee injury and does not look back to his best this season, do not want.
Pogba -> too expensive, a cnut, stupid agent, the media will have a field day, cost too much, do not want.
Schweinsteiger -> too old, too injury prone, on the decline, do not want.
Damn, this crowd is surely hard to please.
Gundogan -> just came back from a big injury, does not look back to his best, do not want.
Strootman -> too many injuries, it's over for him, do not want.
Vidal -> just recovered from a knee injury and does not look back to his best this season, do not want.
Pogba -> too expensive, a cnut, stupid agent, the media will have a field day, cost too much, do not want.
Schweinsteiger -> too old, too injury prone, on the decline, do not want.
Damn, this crowd is surely hard to please.
This would be a cracking signing to help take the pressure off Carrick. The likes of Scholes, Alonso, Pirlo, Xavi etc. have proven that you can play in midfield at the top level and win trophies well into your thirties.
Schweinsteiger can provide what Carrick does right now, no one else with those abilitys are available at the moment, and he can play both as an #8 and #6.
It would be ideal for around 10m quid, question is if he wants to come here, i would certainly hope so.
It would be ideal for around 10m quid, question is if he wants to come here, i would certainly hope so.
Just because you sign a 30 year old doesn't mean your not 'building a team'. The most likely thing to happen is we sign Bastian and one of Schneiderlin/Gundogan who are around 24/25. That'd be more than enough strength to see Carrick become a squad player for us, which would be good for him and the club at 34 years of age.
What happens when he gets injured at the same time as Carrick?
We have one of the youngest squads in the league and our choice of captains is Rooney, Carrick and Smalling. It is hardly our best group of leaders ever. Bastian will add personality and the younger players will be inspired by his presence.
Im all for buying quality rejects though, Alonso,Pirlo,Tevez,Evra and Lampard all turned out to be relatively successful.
What happens if we're that lucky that any new CM gets injured at the same time as Carrick?
Leadership has to happen naturally. We should not be signing players for their "leadership".
Not if we go for a CM who isn't old and injury prone, we bought Herrera and he was barely injured this season.
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