Who's the other injury prone CM? Carrick has played over 40 games a season since he signed before this year. It'd be ridiculous to label him an injury prone midfilelder after 2 injuries. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why Carrick wont play 40-50 games next season.
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Who's the other injury prone CM? Carrick has played over 40 games a season since he signed before this year. It'd be ridiculous to label him an injury prone midfilelder after 2 injuries. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why Carrick wont play 40-50 games next season.
This would be a fabulous signing, a complete steal at £10m when you consider what other inferior (albeit younger) players cost.
LVG knows him and I haven't heard any other clubs are interested, so am pretty hopeful we wrap this one up pretty quickly.
Just shows the difference between having an experienced manager that players respect rather than Moyes. If we get Schweinsteiger, LVG will have been completely instrumental in getting two quality players this summer.
LVG knows him and I haven't heard any other clubs are interested, so am pretty hopeful we wrap this one up pretty quickly.
Just shows the difference between having an experienced manager that players respect rather than Moyes. If we get Schweinsteiger, LVG will have been completely instrumental in getting two quality players this summer.
The fact that he is going to be 34 next season is a possible reason.
Father time is undefeated, i'd expect Carrick to be injured again next season.
Pirlo at 34 played 45 games for Juve, at 35 he played 42 games. Scholes played 38 games for us at 34. Alonso has played over 40 times for Bayern this season.
In the position he plays he could play 100 more games for us over the next 3 seasons.
Pirlo disagrees.
I don't think they had the extent of injury issues Carrick has faced in the previous two seasons.
I am here playing contrarian but, do people think this will actually happen? Doesn't this smell like a player's name being floated around during contract discussions?
He was fine last season. His injuries have only been an issue worth worrying over this year. However there's nothing to suggest this season hasn't just been unfortunate. Scholes had a bad injury at a similar age and got over it without a problem.
Bayern would be willing to sell,United are the front runners, it is going to happen.
You are right, but you don't buy a player from another club for only his dressing room leadership. Bastian is an amazing player; the issue is that he has been injured for major parts of the last two seasons (or that is my impression, which a Bayern fan can correct if untrue).
Carrick after a nearly injury free run has become more susceptible to injuries over the last two seasons.
Are you saying Carrick doesn't need replacing?
Yep Carrick needs some help
But who said that it was the only reason, he is a quality player and since we need depth, he is the perfect candidate, on top of someone else. And yes he had to fix an old ankle injury and I can't remember what was the last injury.
I'm really not sure if I would sign him. When he's 100% fit he's obviously great, but how often has that really been the case in the past couple of years?
Im saying that Schweinsteiger and Carrick could and probably would play 30 games each for the next couple of seasons to a very high standard. I dont believe that if we signed the German that we'd also need to sign another player for a couple of years.
In fact I'd argue that if we signed a ready made replacement for Carrick this season (say the dream signing of Martinez) we'd end up in a difficult situation whereby they'd want to play every game and Carrick would still be expecting to start 30+ games. I personally think Carrick will go on for another 3 seasons so replacing him with a ready made young replacement may not be the best idea. Having Carrick/Bastian whilst possibly bringing in a younger player (or Pereira?) may be a better transition all round.
A midfield of Carrick, Blind, Herrera, Schweinsteiger, Fellaini & Mata with a younger midfielder coming through would be very well balanced for the next 2 seasons in my opinion (although I'd like to think Fellaini will be upgraded at some point, despite his recent good form).
It's good in theory that they can play 30 games each, the problem with players susceptible to injuries is that both can be injured at the same time. We have seen it far too often with Jones, Smalling and Evans.
Again my belief is that Carrick isn't particularly susceptible to injuries. People are acting like he's Hargreaves essentially because of two injuries.
No, people are acting like he is a 34 year old midfielder who will continue to have injury problems as he gets older, just because his injury record was spotless before doesn't mean it'll continue to be like that, these things tend to happen when you're in your 30s.
There would be no one better replacing Carrick than a fully fit Schweinsteiger. A look at his injury list for the last couple of years makes grim reading though
I would agree if he came out and said he wants a new challenge and everything would be possible regarding a move abroad etc...But i think our interest is genuine. He could use it to get a better contract, but i think that we want him and if the Media jumps on it like this time, there must be something in it, at least from our part.
All those times this season when we've basically collapsed in the second half and been left hanging on for dear life - just can't see that ever happening with this guy in the team.
People said the same about Giggs and Scholes in their early-mid thirties. Sometimes an injury or two is just bad luck, regardless of age. Look at John Terry as a prime example of someone who had a few niggling injuries and was written off as finished. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Carrick was in the PL team of the year next season after a proper rest, just like Terry.
Which is why a younger, less injury prone replacement would make more sense.
I would love to have Schweini. He knows Louie, and probably the mythical "philosophy". He is absolute class, and would be a decent solution for a few years. I'm sure Adidas would love it as well. I don't know to much about his current injury-situation, though.
I'm pretty sure leadership can be bought, especially in the form of a player who is vice captain for club and country, and a key player in winning world Cup and Champions League.
Fitness concern is fair enough, but the positives out gains the negatives IMO.
Fitness concern is fair enough, but the positives out gains the negatives IMO.
I really can't see him leaving Bayern, but he'd be immense for us. Brings calmness, aggression and leadership in abundance.
------------Carrick--------------
Herrera----Schweinsteiger
That's a very good midfield, he'd also be good short term and hopefully Pereira develops and takes over in a couple of seasons.
------------Carrick--------------
Herrera----Schweinsteiger
That's a very good midfield, he'd also be good short term and hopefully Pereira develops and takes over in a couple of seasons.
He's a quality player and would be a great addition to the squad. Only worries I have about him is his fitness problems. We don't need another crock to add to the collection.
And he can bring Muller with him
Indeed. If Bayern let him go then clearly there is an issue with his reliability.
The problem here is when fit he'd expect to play and (rightly) expect to be first choice. The problem then comes when he can't play. As good a player as he is we might be better looking at someone who not only expects to start but is capable of playing 35 - 40 games as season.
This is our CM/DM options, in a 4-3-3: Herrera, Fellaini, Carrick and Blind.
If we want to compete in every competitions and be able to deal with injuries we will need two more options, at least. Signing Schweinsteiger would be good for us even he has a couple of bad injuries, but we would still be one midfielder short.
And no Di Maria isn't an option at the moment.
I almost got excited by this until I read the source:
http://www.squawka.com/news/man-utd-and-bayern-munich-in-talks-over-schweinsteiger-deal/381888?
http://www.squawka.com/news/man-utd-and-bayern-munich-in-talks-over-schweinsteiger-deal/381888?
Certainly wouldn't complain for 10, give or take.
Exactly. Look at Scholes and Pirlo played and are still playing late into their careers.
There are several factors that makes me think he could end up at United:
a) The most important: Bayern seem willing to sell
b) The effect LvG had on his career
c) He has shown a hint of a soft spot for United during several interviews. His brother is a huge United fan and has tried for years to get Bastian to sign for United
His injury record is worrying but he's quality.
he's great player but I hate his ugly face, I would punch it every day, and he will be 31 next year, one never knows it could take him another year to settle, would rather prefer Vidal or another player..
Schweinsteiger has/had problems with his ankle. That is the story since 2 or 3 years. He had surgery in the summer break in 2013 after the Treble Season and because of that came late into the season 2013/14. But he still had problems during the whole season and they got him through the World Cup with pain killers.
After the World Cup Müller-Wohlfahrt ordered a bigger rest for him because of that - so it could really heal. That is why he did not start into the training again until mid or end of October.
Everything fine until somewhen in March when he got kicked badly in the Dortmund match - and had to be rested for a match or 2. But in addition to that he had a real bad flu that took two weeks.
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Pep today was asked again in the press conference what Schweinsteiger will do. He said that is up to what Bastian wants - not to him or Rummenigge.
He is not in contract talks. The club would give him probably a contract in the range of Lahm's if he wants to. The question is just what he wants to do. If he leaves this year it will probably be for the EPL and then United would be a logical choice because of the Euros. But it could be that he stays in Munich another year because of that. If he leaves next there are other options, too.
For United - I think that van Gaal is interested. Schweinsteiger is a positive character for the dressing room and on the pitch. For the club itself it is good out of marketing reasons - he has a name and there is the "World Champion"-tag.
My god.
Schweni and Pog. Oh my days I would quickly become dehydrated through loss of sperms.
Quite the opposite. A top class 25 year old is going to want to be starting 40 games a season, if Carrick is fit all next season he's going to want to start 25-30 minimum.
Although I guess if the player in question were more versatile it'd make sense. Schneiderlin for instance could play alongside Carrick as well as instead of him (although I don't personally rate him that highly).
Would be a good signing only if we get another midfielder in as well.
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