Koeman also think we'll return with an offer. He may know just a bit more than all of them but it would be weird to troll them with a silly bid and feck off when player and his agent set their minds on him leaving the club.
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Bastian Schweinsteiger | Signed for MUFC - confirmed.
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Schweinsteiger is not a deep lying playmaker. He is a box to box midfielder, who would need a defensive/holding midfielder behind him to really excel; that too someone who is very mobile. I cannot see the Carrick and Schweini partnership working very well.
The deal to sign him on a two year contract sounds very prudent, if we can make it happen. You are right, he could prove to be a great asset for a couple of seasons. Though, signing him doesn't preclude the need to sign a deep lying playmaker/holding midfielder.
Ana Ivanovic at the awards ceremony next year. He's worth it for that.
I like your way of thinking.
Agree on the Carrick / Schweini partnership. What do you think about Blind and Schweini? I think that haS potential.
Schweinsteiger worked well together with another 6/8 like van Bommel was one who just was a little bit more defensive than he was - behind a hanging striker in Müller. But Louis got Müller to equally work in defense.
And worked fine with a sweeper in Gustavo - or later Martinez.
I think the partnership between him and Khedira - both equally working as 6/8s was good to - the only problem was maybe that later on Khedira was a tad bit to offensive especially when Özil did not do anything defensive.
There is a lot possibilities. But no - he is not a full 6 or him as 6 alone against strong opponents might not be the best solution. But he does not need a full sweeper behind him - just a partner who can cover parts of a 6, too. And whoever will work on the other 8 or 8/10 should be atleast as mobile as he is so it gets a little dynamic. The box to box should not be up to him alone.
So let say we got both Sch for our midfield, who is going to be left out? I know Fellaini will be the first, Herrera or Carrick might have to be displaced.
I wouldn't be too confident with that partnership as Blind is not mobile enough to cover the gaps that Schweini will leave in the midfield. I can't see him working very well with Herrera alongide him either.
I agree with that completely. That is the reason I believe that Schneiderlin, though not top tier, can be a very important signing for us. He is the defensive minded box-box player who could work exceptionally well with either Schweini or Herrera in the midfield.
My ideal combination will be:
Schweini Schneiderlin
Herrera
Herrera
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Imagine our midfield lineup:
Schweinsteiger Schneiderlin
Herrera
Just do it.Herrera
I see both Carrick and Schweinsteigger vying for the same deep-lying playmaker spot. Only they have the passing ability to pull it off properly.
Whether we get through CL play-offs or not, we are going to be in Europe next season and fighting on 4 fronts. Considering that, a midfield options of two Schs, Carrick, Herrera and Fellaini for 3 positions is not a lot. 5 players for 3 positions and two of them are 30+ (one is 34). Given our injury problems, even adding Blind in there as a backup and still that 6 players don't seem a lot to me.
I can't help but feel that this may be why the Schneiderlin deal hasn't been done yet and that concerns me.
It's clear as day what's happening...
Schweiny on a two year deal - that would take him to the same point as when LvG's contract finishes - and Schneidy as Carrick's long term successor.
Schweiny on a two year deal - that would take him to the same point as when LvG's contract finishes - and Schneidy as Carrick's long term successor.
I see this as a negotiation tactics from us in getting Schneiderlin,with him going no were and we doesn't want to cough up the required fee from Saints.
IMO when our second bid goes through Schneiderlin will be ours.
In regards to Schweinsteiger,player as to make up his mind with both clubs involved seems to be happy with the deal this never going to take long.
I think we want both. Carrick/Schweinsteiger + schneiderlin + Herrera as the CMs.
Exactly with Fellaini and Blind as utility players.
------------Carrrick/Schweinsteiger----------
------Herrera---------------Schneiderlin-----
Not a peep or positive murmur from this side since the season ended, but this might actually be done earlier than the Schneiderlin tranfser who everything thought was a formality signing and one of the first on board that pre season plane to the states.
Why didn't we keep RVP then, It doesn't make sense. Either we continue to build a young squad or buy/keep experienced player. If we buy Bastian IMO it will create a problem as in both him and Carrick will have to play when fit thus leaving Herrera out which is not the way to build for the future.
What ADIDAS player do you have?
Mata and Herrera I think. RvP is an Adidas player but he's gone.
Di Maria, Jones, Herrera, Mata. I think.
What advantage would there be for us to get the Schweinsteiger deal done before going back to work with the Schneiderlin deal?
Shaw as well.
So most of us think we should sign Schneiderlin ahead of Schweini and think its stupid to make Schweini the priority? Personally don't see this happening but would love it if it did happen. Although want Schneiderlin more.
We need Schneiderlin to stay competitive. He's the one we need minimally.
Schweinsteigger would be the bonus signing that could see us really fighting for the title.
Schweinsteigger would be the bonus signing that could see us really fighting for the title.
Marquee signing bollox or something maybe?
Also, maybe Bastian might not sign if we have already bought Schneiderlin??
Guardiola wants DiMaria. They are gently shoving Schweinsteiger out of the door for weeks now, so they can do Schweinsteiger +X amount for DiMaria.
absolutely in a better position to bargain with soton for we have already had reinforcement in midfield. hopefully they can soften their demand a bit, says to accept 23/25 + 2
I was thinking Schweinsteiger might be put off if we signed Scheiderlin, given the extra competition for places, but I guess that could work both ways
Reckon its so we get Bastian & that he might not come if we sign Morgan. He wants playin time afterall & Morgan would be an obstacle in that aim..
given how he is rated by lvg it won't be his concern. if he do then he can simply ask if schneiderlin will come and we can't lie to him
It's all about playin time with Bastian though Rover. He aint gettin it at Bayern & he'd want it at United, which he will imo, but you couldnt blame Bastian for havin doubts if we sign Morgan either..
Guardiola can do one if he thinks we will part with Di Maria for Schweinsteiger.
Fellani is going to be used as a striker next season. Just you watch.
Think of the logic that's actually involved in that, as in a real life situation rather than as a tactic to snare a player on Football Manager.
So Schweinsteiger signs for us on the basis of being an important fixture in our first team....
....and shortly after we sign a rival for his position and go "oh sorry Bastian, we had to trick you in order to get you to sign, you'll actually be part of a midfield unit that will be rotated and I doubt you will get as many games as you thought".
I've given up thinking things like this after last season.
All I know is that we will have a stronger squad and the hungriest, most in form players with the best chemistry will play.
Any concern Schweinsteiger has about playing time for us can be immediately assuaged by showing him our injury track record over the last few years. Bet you he will then be worried about having to play all the games!
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