I have no idea why some are so certain that it is either-or. We can get both too. There is some possibility of it being either-or but it is too early to draw conclusions.Seriously, some people on here. Disliking the idea of signing Bastien Schweinsteiger ffs
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If Fellaini is considered by LvG as primarily being a forward next season, which is very plausible, then signing both makes sense.
Two midfielders isn't a stretch at all. If we want to compete right at the very top then we need to pack every position with excellent players.
The likes of Fellaini and Blind are good, solid players, but they wouldn't start at any of Bayern, Barcelona or Madrid in midfield. Herrera, Schneiderlin and Carrick probably wouldn't either. Good players they are, but if a couple of them are sat on the bench then so be it. It's a sign of strength in depth.
This would be a great signing. Let them fight it out.
The likes of Fellaini and Blind are good, solid players, but they wouldn't start at any of Bayern, Barcelona or Madrid in midfield. Herrera, Schneiderlin and Carrick probably wouldn't either. Good players they are, but if a couple of them are sat on the bench then so be it. It's a sign of strength in depth.
This would be a great signing. Let them fight it out.
The problem for me, as a United fan, is that the minute both Bastian and Carrick get injured (which is highly likely considering their past season) we are back to the exact same issues as we had last season. No #6 and having to fit Herrera/Rooney into that role.
I agree that we do need a leader, and more experience. But we also need someone that we can rely on to stay fit for the majority of the season. Thats why I'd be delighted if it was Bastian + 1 for our midfield.
People said the same about RVP. And while he gave us one outstanding season he declined pretty quickly. I'll always be vary of signing someone close to or beyond 30. Especially if that someone is coming back from injury.
Even if we get Schneiderlin, I'd rather we don't get Schweinsteiger and leave an opening for some of our younger players. And if we get Schweinsteiger instead of Schneiderlin, then we are complete idiots.
RVP still had a lot to give in 13/14, but he downed tools with Moyes. He still scored 18 goals. If we had Ferguson that year, RVP would have been brilliant again. However, I take the point. If we get Morgan through, there is nothing wrong with signing an experienced World Cup winner, who could even be quality for another 2-3 years.
Top class DLPs tend to last longer than other players. Pirlo, Xavi, Scholes and Alonso are testament to that. Arguably even Carrick. It can't hurt to have another one for 2 or 3 years.
None of those players were anywhere near as physical as Bastian, in their pomp, though. So in theory it was easier for them to adapt their games. Bastians physical capabilities have always played a big part of his game.
You can't really blame LVG for loving this guy. I want this next year at Old Trafford.
He pisses like a horse.
Except midfielders tend to last longer than strikers. Or rather they tend to play longer at a higher level than most strikers do.
Bild are reporting we have made a first official bid and are offering him a two-year 10m Euro a season deal.
Would be a great buy in ADDITION TO Schnedierlin...
Would be a great buy in ADDITION TO Schnedierlin...
You can't really blame LVG for loving this guy. I want this next year at Old Trafford.
That photo is nice, too.
This one can go pretty fast. Meeting on Saturday to discuss his future, could be here next week.
I am sure one of them if not both will be with us next week.
I am sure one of them if not both will be with us next week.
Actually - Sport 1 has the meeting for Friday - today. I could imagine that Bayern does not want to take this topic into the team presentation on Saturday - even if I do not think that it would be the right occasion to tell the fans that he will leave... Tricky situation.
Bayern has the team presentation in the Allianz Arena Saturday afternoon with a show training and a match of the Allstars against Inter Milan - and the Telekom Cup (two 45 minute matches on one day) in Mönchengladbach on Sunday. I could imagine this will be the hottest topic then.
And Thursday the team flies to China.
So most likely he will be staying if he plays Sunday. Off if he doesn't.
I would be over the bloody moon if we get Schweingsteiger & Schneiderlin. Our midfield will be set for next season.
With the competitions we've got to play they will all get a lot of game time.
With the competitions we've got to play they will all get a lot of game time.
I doubt he plays Sunday in any case. We have enough others that started training July 1st and the ones that start Saturday probably stay in Munich to make all the performance tests and doctor stuff. Pep probably will not risk any of the players that start training Saturday (especially as that is a show training) for that 90 minutes.
Robben, Müller, Lahm, Thiago, Alonso, Alaba, Martinez, Rafinha and the young ones like Gaudino, Green and Kurt are in training since the start - and he might take some players of the U23 in addition.
I just mentioned it because there is occasions of the press to ask questions and have people available...
Like yesterday when Rummenigge held a press conference because of a new sponsor.That is how the Bayern training this week looked like - Robben murdered Müller https://instagram.com/p/4tueFVPXip/
(there is somewhere a similar scene with Thiago on Robben... - you get scared when you know about last year's injuries)
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Getting rid of an experienced (old) striker and bringing in a experienced (old) midfielder?
We should be looking at younger players to build a squad.
Bastian/Robben - No
Muller/Gotze - Yes
We should be looking at younger players to build a squad.
Bastian/Robben - No
Muller/Gotze - Yes
We've lost plenty of experience in recent years, the average age of the squad i'm sure is pretty great, adding a top experienced player could prove to be very beneficial for the squad.
Especially if we get a younger and reliable midfielder in addition to that in Schneiderlin.
Carrick may retire in about two seasons as much as I hate to say this. It's always good to have a German midfield general like Schweini to fill that gap just in case, however if Muller/Gotze are available then no brainer.
I do hope we'll squeeze absolutely everything from this window.
Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin would be an amazing partnership. You'd have that combination of a clever younger midfielder and a talented older midfielder who has been there and done it. Not unlike when we had the Scholes and Carrick midfield of 2006-09. Especially with Herrera in there as well, if we want a 3 man midfield. I dont see why the addition of Schweinsteiger would make a blind bit of difference to whether we bring in Schneiderlin or not.
Schweinsteiger is 31 in a few weeks, so its unlikely he would be much help by the time Carrick retires. Schneiderlin and another younger midfielder will however.
He will be great help in this transition. He'll be 33 and remain as one of experienced figures in the dressing room. You may not notice but after Robin's departure there are no such experienced players left in this team except Carrick and Valdes.
The German version of Ramos - pipe dreams. Let's just sign the ones available (Otamendi, Schneiderlin) an make them world class.
He will be one of the experienced ones but at 32-33 isn't going to be particularly influential on the pitch. We're basically buying him well passed his peak.
Schweinsteiger is on the same shelf as Pirlo or Xavi. Hardly a weak link for any team with ambitions in Europe.
He won't be a weak link but he certainly wont be the player many think we are getting when the name Schweinsteiger is invoked. As I said, good experience but by no means transformational at this stage of his career.
True, and i'm confident we're after both.
I agree, this seems like a transfer driven by LvG more than anything, probably because he can't get his boy Strootman. It's like the United board are giving him another present in his role as manager given his contract is short and it's no coincidence that Schweinsteiger's would finish the same time as LvG's IMO.
At this stage of his career he's still better option than everything what we currently have in midfield. He will transform us into much more steady and wiser side.
He's never had more than 33 appearances in all comps in a year throughout his career, so its unlikely LvG simply wants more tools in his toolbox (so to speak), since Carrick probably won't last more than 20. We will need a player like Schneiderlin to carry the workload and let the other two play according to fitness and form.
I can see him having a Ballack kind of effect on our team. Wasn't he around 30ish when he joined Chelsea too?
Would love Schweinsteiger here ONLY if we are signing another CM (Schneiderlin preferrably). I sincerely hope it is not a case of one or the other.
Yup and to think they replaced him with Ramires...
Pretty much almost every decent English journo said we're not backing down on Schneiderlin so let's not panic just yet.
Perhaps if Arsenal would make a sneaky bid we would move our collective arse and do something about it, finally.
To be fair, English journalists this summer have been pretty awful, at least in regard to us.
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