Bastian Schweinsteiger | Signed for MUFC - confirmed.

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Just realised he's a year older than I thought, I though he just turned 30 but he'll be 31 when the season starts. Meh, has to be below 10 million pounds. He's still a good player but probably only has two years left as starting material for us.
 
L'Equipe saying we're willing to pay €25m on this guy. Not sure if we're better off spending that amount on Schneiderlin.
 
Problem is, while it might be wise for Bayern to let Bastian go (our squad is aging fast), Di Maria certainly isn't the answer. He had a very bad season, nothing indicates he's worth the price asked for him. I know you won't like this, but in the eyes of most he's a 45 Million € player, not more. You overpayed, and he underarchieved. With Douglas Costa now on board, I think this rumour is over.
 
Problem is, while it might be wise for Bayern to let Bastian go (our squad is aging fast), Di Maria certainly isn't the answer. He had a very bad season, nothing indicates he's worth the price asked for him. I know you won't like this, but in the eyes of most he's a 45 Million € player, not more. You overpayed, and he underarchieved. With Douglas Costa now on board, I think this rumour is over.
How do you see Schweinsteiger's level nowadays? My impression is that, while still a very good player, his best days are behind him but that's based on very few games. What do you say, is he still at the peak of his powers for now?
 
People should just stop listening to Beckenbauer. His credibility is about the same as Pele's.

With Douglas Costa now on board, I think this rumour is over.
The rumours about a deal involving di Maria were always bullshit. If Bastian wants to leave, we'll find a fair solution for him. It won't depend on any other player.
 
So Beckenbauer's advice is to stay at Bayern for 2 more seasons then bugger off to the MLS at aged 32/33 when he's still at the peak of his career? :lol:

Compelling advice there Franz, Swine's Tiger must feel flattered by the endoresement that he apparently only has 1-2 years left at the highest level.

 
How do you see Schweinsteiger's level nowadays? My impression is that, while still a very good player, his best days are behind him but that's based on very few games. What do you say, is he still at the peak of his powers for now?

He can be, if he's fit for a long enough period. That's the main problem. The physicality of his game is underrated and if it's lost, his presence on the pitch is, too. We'll see what he can do next season. I don't want him to leave, Alonso should go instead. He's clearly done.
 
Just realised he's a year older than I thought, I though he just turned 30 but he'll be 31 when the season starts. Meh, has to be below 10 million pounds. He's still a good player but probably only has two years left as starting material for us.

So once he hits 33, he'd magically, overnight, become shit?

Where has this insistence that a player is fecked once he hits 30 coming from? 30 is hardly old...injuries aside, and providing they look after themselves appropriately, there's no reason that modern day players can't play on at the top level well into their 30's...

Giggs, Scholes, Terry, Carrick, Gerrard, Lampard...

All great players well into their 30's...Giggsy until he was almost 40...
 
So once he hits 33, he'd magically, overnight, become shit?

Where has this insistence that a player is fecked once he hits 30 coming from? 30 is hardly old...injuries aside, and providing they look after themselves appropriately, there's no reason that modern day players can't play on at the top level well into their 30's...

Giggs, Scholes, Terry, Carrick, Gerrard, Lampard...

All great players well into their 30's...Giggsy until he was almost 40...

It's a conditioned idea influenced by the idea that the younger the better. There is an unhealthy obsession with age. Logically yes a player who is a year older will not have the same intensity (assumption) as in his younger days, but titles and cups are not only decided by who has the best talents.
 
So people seriously want to sell him, knowing full well that Bayern and Barca want to buy him and he would slot into their starting 11 easily? 2 of the best 3 teams in the world, but he's not consistent enough for us and just can't cut it here.... Right. Makes sense.

So once he hits 33, he'd magically, overnight, become shit?

Where has this insistence that a player is fecked once he hits 30 coming from? 30 is hardly old...injuries aside, and providing they look after themselves appropriately, there's no reason that modern day players can't play on at the top level well into their 30's...

Giggs, Scholes, Terry, Carrick, Gerrard, Lampard...

All great players well into their 30's...Giggsy until he was almost 40...
Still don't think he'd have that much of an impact to be our only midfield signing.

I would gladly take him alongside schneiderlin or another solid cm.
 
Some say there is a ring on Ana Ivanovic`s finger,maybe we should offer to pay whole wedding (if that day comes) or something.
 
Some say there is a ring on Ana Ivanovic`s finger,maybe we should offer to pay whole wedding (if that day comes) or something.

Yeah seem to be engaged.

I don´t think Costa´s purchase means the end of the DiMaria talk. If Schweinsteiger is valued at €25M, I could see Bayern make another €35-40M on top offer for DiMaria. I doubt Pep will be satisfied with just Costa. Lewandowski, Mueller, Ribery, Robben, Costa, Goetze for four attacking position is still not incredible depth, especially if Pep doesn´t rate Goetze.
 
Yeah seem to be engaged.

I don´t think Costa´s purchase means the end of the DiMaria talk. If Schweinsteiger is valued at €25M, I could see Bayern make another €35-40M on top offer for DiMaria. I doubt Pep will be satisfied with just Costa. Lewandowski, Mueller, Ribery, Robben, Costa, Goetze for four attacking position is still not incredible depth, especially if Pep doesn´t rate Goetze.

Bayern usually don't pay that amount of money on 1 player and we're not keen on selling, can't see it happening.
 
The idea that players decline in their 30s has come about by people watching football and seeing that the vast majority of players decline, normally to the point of forced retirement, in that decade.

It's not a computer game thing, or an example of youth obsessed culture, it's just the reality of physical decline due to age not being conducive towards being a professional athlete.
 
Bayern usually don't pay that amount of money on 1 player and we're not keen on selling, can't see it happening.

Well they pay 35-40M. They don´t pay 60-70M, which is where Schweinsteiger comes into play. Bayern would probably let Schweinsteiger go for free (exaggerated), if he asked for it. So if they can get him value at 25M by United AdM becomes an attractive option.
 
Schweinsteiger has been my favorite CM for some years now and I have always held out hope we would sign him. I can't help but feel this is just a couple of years too late. He will have to be an out-and-out DM if we are going to get anything more than 2 years out of him (assuming we sign him)
 
Some say there is a ring on Ana Ivanovic`s finger,maybe we should offer to pay whole wedding (if that day comes) or something.
I'm sure Schweini can afford a couple hundred K for his elaborate wedding ;)
 
Surely we wouldn't pay €25M for an injury prone 31 year old in the last year of his contract. My biggest worry is LvG has a ludicrous notion of trying to use him as a box to box CM instead of as a rotation #6 with Carrick.
 
L'Equipe saying we're willing to pay €25m on this guy. Not sure if we're better off spending that amount on Schneiderlin.

For me we need both. I think Scheiderlin can really develop with us, but would love Schweinie to get us there now. plus think of the options with Carrick, Herrera, Schederlin, Schweinie plus Fellaini and mata. we could line-up so many different ways. And as a bonus we would never see Rooney at CM again :).
 
Funny how many fewer posts this has than the Ramos thread. I'd have said Schweinsteiger would be a more important signing for us than Ramos.

Unless it's just to do with the media covering Ramos much more of course.
 
Was it Xabi Alonso or someone's wedding that was £40m?
Doubt it. That might be his whole fortune or more.

Footballers may be rich compared to the average earthling, but they probably belong to the lower tiers when compared to celebrity entertainers (actors/musicians/etc) in the US, businessmen and Arabs.
 
Funny how many fewer posts this has than the Ramos thread. I'd have said Schweinsteiger would be a more important signing for us than Ramos.

Unless it's just to do with the media covering Ramos much more of course.

Schweinsteiger doesn't excite me at all, he's getting up there in age and very injury prone at this point. I'd only be excited to get him if we got someone else as well. His top level is incredible obviously but I have little faith that he'll be able to get back to that/stay there for any extended period of time.
 
Doubt it. That might be his whole fortune or more.

Footballers may be rich compared to the average earthling, but they probably belong to the lower tiers when compared to celebrity entertainers (actors/musicians/etc) in the US, businessmen and Arabs.

Most celebrity entertainers would also be in that lower tier.
 
Schweinsteiger doesn't excite me at all, he's getting up there in age and very injury prone at this point. I'd only be excited to get him if we got someone else as well. His top level is incredible obviously but I have little faith that he'll be able to get back to that/stay there for any extended period of time.

When I give my view that he would not be a good signing, it was like I jumped the sharks tank
 
Doubt it. That might be his whole fortune or more.

Footballers may be rich compared to the average earthling, but they probably belong to the lower tiers when compared to celebrity entertainers (actors/musicians/etc) in the US, businessmen and Arabs.
Yeah it could've been more like £4m now I think about it. Or it might not even have been a footballer? Can't remember at all to be honest.
 
I see part of tomorrow's Schneiderlin stories is that we're moving for him having given up on Schweinsteiger. Like it was either or.
I remember reading that we will give our main targets until July, and if they are not in the bag we move with our back up option. That was reported about a month ago.
 
Why would we sign him? Sure he can play the holding role to a decent level but he's no specialist there. I'd rather gamble on martinez if we wanted him for that. As a box to box he isn't what he used to be. Injuries have taken their toll and we should rather gamble on Gundogan regaining his fitness. Anyways we have hererra for that role so that shouldn't be on the agenda.
 
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