Bastian Schweinsteiger | Signed for MUFC - confirmed.

[TheNewEra]

Do we know why Bayern would allegedly sell him for the quoted 7.5 million? I know his contract is up next year but even so, wouldn't you rather keep a player of Schweinsteiger's quality and let him go for free than sell him for such a low fee?

I would prefer a younger midfielder and feel like Schweinsteiger is just a few yards past his peak but at that price he's be a superb addition.

Age.

The issue with Bayern have is replacing their ailing squad, last year they were beat in the CL partly due to an aging squad.

When age catches up to you so do injuries, they take longer to recover from and I was critical a year ago of Bayern saying they need to replace key figures like Schweinsteiger, to not let Kroos go and to find replacements for Ribéry and Robben as they are both 30+.

Sadly they did none of that and then key players being injured in the CL which age was a factor with those injuries (body isn't as resilient as what it was) and they struggled.

Schweinsteiger would be great but can he do 90 minutes a game high intensity? it's quite hard to say, he would improve our options and selections vastly though, I'd rather find a younger option though.

 

[m1y2]

Yeah, that's not true at all. We looked like a quality team for two spells last season, both times when Carrick had a run of games. In the first run of games Hererra didn't feature, in the second he did.

except we didn't, we just made some results due the the god we have in the cage he had great run of games that time, and we were even more boring but it also has sth to do with 3-5-2.. the second run of games was completely different level..

 

[Jed I. Knight]

 

[Balu]

Sadly they did none

That's not true. We signed plenty of young players to replace the old guard, but even the young players were often injured for long spells or simply didn't meet the expectations. Alaba, Thiago and Martinez were huge losses for us for more than half of the last season. We signed for example Götze and Shaqiri as young talented attackers, Lewandowski was only 25, we signed Bernat in defense.

The fact that we're still so dependent on Ribery and/or Robben has more to do with their individual brilliance and the lack of quality wingers in world football in general. Nothing we could have done about that.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I think we only looked like a top team towards the end of season, however we looked clueless for a week after that spell with Herrera still in the team. He definitely impacts how we play though.

Good point. Actually that run demonstrated the importance of Carrick far more than the earlier run I alluded to. Especially coming at a point in the season when Hererra was well integrated and playing his best football. Which is not to down-play how good Hererra is/was but it's the perfect example of the importance of Carrick.

 

[Massive Spanner]

We were ridiculously reliant on Carrick last season.

That's why Schneiderlinn seems a fecking no brainer to me in terms of a replacement, mainly cause he's exactly the right age, whereas Schweinstiger would be a big risk.

 

[Unlikely lad]

Good point. Actually that run demonstrated the importance of Carrick far more than the earlier run I alluded to. Especially coming at a point in the season when Hererra was well integrated and playing his best football. Which is not to down-play how good Hererra is/was but it's the perfect example of the importance of Carrick.

To be fair, I seem to recall Herrera was played in a deeper position against Chelsea (Carrick's first game injured?), basically where Carrick would have played.

Obviously limited his impact, especially the combos with Mata.

 

[Sarni]

Good point. Actually that run demonstrated the importance of Carrick far more than the earlier run I alluded to. Especially coming at a point in the season when Hererra was well integrated and playing his best football. Which is not to down-play how good Hererra is/was but it's the perfect example of the importance of Carrick.

IMO Herrera can hardly perform at his best without a solid DM next to him because he has a burden of defensive job which shackles him offensively. It's to be expected though, he has very good workrate and is fine defensively but he's still no defensive midfielder. It's absolutely essential that we get someone similar to Carrick, IMO we should sign both Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger which would provide excellent platform for future.

 

[Crackers]

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

He's going to drop Herrera again isn't it. That's the only way Schweini fits into the team.

 

[Sarni]

He's going to drop Herrera again isn't it. That's the only way Schweini fits into the team.

Carrick, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin in midfield won't have any balance without Herrera. Actually if they both come then Herrera becomes our most important midfielder because he offers something they do not and they can pretty much all cover each other.

 

[Speak]

I like Schweinsteiger, but I'd rather the club just signed the one midfielder, if he was going to be the second one.
Sign someone in (or before) their prime this summer, and if we can't sign another one - wait until next summer.

All we need is two midfielders to sit alongside Herrera, and if they're the right age (i.e. not 30 like Schweinsteiger), we'll be sorted for a good few years. Seriously, we just need to sort the midfield out properly, and buy midfielders of the right age.

 

[Joga Bonito]

When age catches up to you so do injuries, they take longer to recover from and I was critical a year ago of Bayern saying they need to replace key figures like Schweinsteiger, to not let Kroos go and to find replacements for Ribéry and Robben as they are both 30+.

Yeah, they should have never let him leave, bet they must be be having a tinge of regret about that now, with their injury prone squad and ageing midfielders in Alonso and Schweinsteiger. He didn't have a great time at Real but that was more due to him being improperly used there. Sure would have done better than Alonso, who experienced an alarming dip in the second half of the season.

 

[Summit]

I like Schweinsteiger, but I'd rather the club just signed the one midfielder, if he was going to be the second one.
Sign someone in (or before) their prime this summer, and if we can't sign another one - wait until next summer.

All we need is two midfielders to sit alongside Herrera, and if they're the right age (i.e. not 30 like Schweinsteiger), we'll be sorted for a good few years. Seriously, we just need to sort the midfield out properly, and buy midfielders of the right age.

Maybe LvG see's Andreas Pereira has a genuine chance to stamp his stake on a starting place and signing someone like Schweinsteiger would be perfect IMO.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

If we sign him he'll surely be our best central midfielder since Scholes? Or is he past his best?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Yeah, they should have never let him leave, bet they must be be having a tinge of regret about that now, with their injury prone squad and ageing midfielders in Alonso and Schweinsteiger. He didn't have a great time at Real but that was more due to him being improperly used there. Sure would have done better than Alonso, who experienced an alarming dip in the second half of the season.

They probably rate Thiago higher and want someone more defensive next to him than Kronos in the long run.

 

[Kakeru]

Maybe LvG see's Andreas Pereira has a genuine chance to stamp his stake on a starting place and signing someone like Schweinsteiger would be perfect IMO.

And that might explain why there is perhaps no serious interest from us on someone like Schneiderlin while there could be one on Schweinsteiger. Van Gaal could probably bring Schweini in to bring leadership and to become a mentor for the likes of Pereira.

 

[Summit]

And that might explain why there is perhaps no serious interest from us on someone like Schneiderlin while there could be one on Schweinsteiger. Van Gaal could probably bring Schweini in to bring leadership and to become a mentor for the likes of Pereira.

That's my thinking too.

 

[Joga Bonito]

They probably rate Thiago higher and want someone more defensive next to him than Kronos in the long run.

That is fair enough but Thiago was coming from a long lay off and was still nowhere near the finished product (yet to feature prominently and consistently in a domestic campaign if I'm not mistaken), whereas Kroos was an established player who'd just won the WC and the CL previously. Kroos is also just one year older and whilst Thiago might be more flashy and technical, I'd say Kroos is much more of the complete package who'd in all likelihood go on to have the better career, judging at this stage.

I think Bayern would have fared much better if they had Kroos in their ranks last season and in the long run too, given that he is fairly versatile and a brilliant player. Yeah, they did win the Bundesliga but it seems like a fairly underwhelming campaign overall, for such a magnificent team. Injuries played their part but they could have solved their midfield troubles (Schweini-Alonso) if they just had Kroos in the team, instead of Rode challenging them.

 

[Rezyuz]

Did the player get on particularly well with van Gaal during his time in Munich? Hoping, if anything does, that might tempt him to come here this summer.

He loves Van Gaal and praises him a lot. They remained good friends.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

That is fair enough but Thiago was coming from a long lay off and was still nowhere near the finished product (yet to feature prominently and consistently in a domestic campaign if I'm not mistaken), whereas Kroos was an established player who'd just won the WC and the CL previously. Kroos is also just one year older and whilst Thiago might be more flashy and technical, I'd say Kroos is much more of the complete package who'd in all likelihood go on to have the better career, judging at this stage.

I think Bayern would have fared much better if they had Kroos in their ranks last season and in the long run too, given that he is fairly versatile and a brilliant player. Yeah, they did win the Bundesliga but it seems like a fairly underwhelming campaign overall, for such a magnificent team. Injuries played their part but they could have solved their midfield troubles (Schweini-Alonso) if they just had Kroos in the team, instead of Rode challenging them.

Let's see how it works out in the long run. Pep obviously rates Thiago as a step above in terms of ability, and they're confident in the long run they can partner him with players who are a better fit. They were never going to be able to account for such an injury crises and Alonso prior to this year has been better than Kroos and again better defensively so it didn't seem an odd decision at the time either.

 

[Joga Bonito]

They were never going to be able to account for such an injury crises

Aye, in an ideal world, a midfield of Thiago, J.Martinez, Schweinsteiger, Alonso and Rode should have been more than enough. A real shame that they lost quite a few of them to long-term injuries during the season.

 

[CassiusClaymore]

And that might explain why there is perhaps no serious interest from us on someone like Schneiderlin while there could be one on Schweinsteiger. Van Gaal could probably bring Schweini in to bring leadership and to become a mentor for the likes of Pereira.

Not only that but I think people forget Van Gaal is only on a 3 year contract here.

He'll be expected to push for the title next season and so it makes perfect sense for him to look first and foremost at players who understand how to play in his system. A system which took our lot nearly the entire campaign to get to grips with.

I doubt he'll want to have to go through that again.

 

[Blackwidow]

That is fair enough but Thiago was coming from a long lay off and was still nowhere near the finished product (yet to feature prominently and consistently in a domestic campaign if I'm not mistaken), whereas Kroos was an established player who'd just won the WC and the CL previously. Kroos is also just one year older and whilst Thiago might be more flashy and technical, I'd say Kroos is much more of the complete package who'd in all likelihood go on to have the better career, judging at this stage.

I think Bayern would have fared much better if they had Kroos in their ranks last season and in the long run too, given that he is fairly versatile and a brilliant player. Yeah, they did win the Bundesliga but it seems like a fairly underwhelming campaign overall, for such a magnificent team. Injuries played their part but they could have solved their midfield troubles (Schweini-Alonso) if they just had Kroos in the team, instead of Rode challenging them.

Kroos...Kroos... actually I cannot hear the name anymore.

Yes, he probably would have helped when we had so much injuries - but he for sure was not the solution for anything. The problem with Kroos is that he never was a leading figure at Bayern or decisive - and never really showed the closeness to the club - but wanted to be paid like the top earners. Bayern did not want to - Real did - and that is why he left. Bayern just cashed in a year earlier instead of letting the contract run out.

The fighting spirit, the eagerness, the passion, even the desire to be close to the fans I have seen from Thiago in and after the match against Porto is something I have never seen of Kroos before - and that is what I like from a player - and what a lot of the fans want to have. I cannot tell how good Thiago can be when he gets a run of plays - but he is somebody who really works for the team. That is probably the La Masia school the way you can see it at our homegrown players.

Kroos never really adapted that so much as he already came to Bayern as the star when he was 16 - he only stayed in the Bayern youth a year and even in that year he was the star.

I did not miss Kroos in the bad matches this season as he never was somebody who made a positive difference in them - and I do not need anybody to shine when everybody is shining.

 

[Enigma_87]

And that might explain why there is perhaps no serious interest from us on someone like Schneiderlin while there could be one on Schweinsteiger. Van Gaal could probably bring Schweini in to bring leadership and to become a mentor for the likes of Pereira.

Schweinsteiger is different class to the others that are mentioned. He's still one of the top midfielders around.

We shouldn't care about age at positions that we currently need immediate impact on. Besides can someone mention me a young midfielder that can bring the same impact that those "old" guys like Schweinsteiger can(besides Verratti)?

 

[anver]

 

[Drifter]

Bild saying Munich would like a part swap deal involving Di Maria. But they also say Bastian is going nowhere.

 

[Mciahel Goodman]

Bild saying Munich would like a part swap deal involving Di Maria.

Controversial maybe, but I'd take Muller and Schweinsteiger for Di Maria (maybe just Muller). Although, Di Maria is going nowhere.

 

[Tarrou]

Controversial maybe, but I'd take Muller and Schweinsteiger for Di Maria (maybe just Muller). Although, Di Maria is going nowhere.

I'd snap call on that deal if offerred. Just Muller even would be an amazing deal for us.

 

[Mciahel Goodman]

I'd snap call on that deal if offerred. Just Muller even would be an amazing deal for us.

Thing is, Muller is the most quintessential Bayern player you could think of. Would be like us selling a young Giggs, or Scholes.

 

[LitterBug]

Thing is, Muller is the most quintessential Bayern player you could think of. Would be like us selling a young Giggs, or Scholes.

Exactly this. You cannot personify Muller with anyone other than Bayern. He will never ever leave that club and you can quote me on this!

 

[FC Ronaldo]

That's brilliant

 

[Cal?]

Exactly this. You cannot personify Muller with anyone other than Bayern. He will never ever leave that club and you can quote me on this!

Some would say that about Gerrard & Liverpool...

 

[Massive Spanner]

Feck sake, awesome.

 

[golden_blunder]

I'd take boateng and schweiney

 

[Lennon7]

Shtick ap*

 

[devilish]

Di Maria for Bastian, 20m + DDG for Ramos, we might as well offer Rooney, Depay + Herrera for Sneijder.

 

[LitterBug]

Some would say that about Gerrard & Liverpool...

Gerrard looking for a payday at the end of his career is different to a young German wanting to follow in the footsteps of many legends before him. Even in his namesake's Gerd who played for Bayern all his life and then moved to America at the end of his career. He won't be going anywhere until he is well past his peak!

As far as Schweini is concerned I think he is getting quite old now and wouldn't really be a worthy addition to us. I think I saw the Cup match at home vs Dortmung and he was completely knackered towards the end of that. Out of breath and everything. We should be going for young confirmed talent to plug a hole in CM.

 

[Drifter]

Franz Beckenbauer has advised Bastian Schweinsteiger to ignore a move to Manchester United this summer in favour of staying at Bayern Munich.



Germany midfielder Schweinsteiger is on United’s list of summer transfer targets along with Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos.

The 30-year-old midfielder made just 15 starts for the Bundesliga champions last season and is believed to be interesting Old Trafford manager Louis van Gaal.

Beckenbauer helped Bayern to a hat-trick of European Cup victories between 1974 and 1976 before spending the final part of his playing career in America with New York Cosmos.

He feels that is a path Schweinsteiger should also follow rather than making a switch to the Premier League.

Beckenbauer said: "I would advise him not to go to England. He can stay here as well. This challenge, at his age, it’s not what he needs.

“I would play one or two more years in Munich, at this high level. And then, if he still wants to and if he still feels like playing football is the thing, he can make a step back and maybe go to the USA.

“In New York, Cosmos is searching for players, also Red Bull. So I think if he, as a world champion, goes to New York or another club in the Major League Soccer, that would greatly improve the standing of football there."

Several newspapers have reported Angel di Maria could be used as a makeweight in any potential deal to take Schweinsteiger to Old Trafford.

Winger Franck Ribery has endured injury problems but Beckenbauer does not believe the Argentine international would be the right type of player to come in.

He added: "I think that nobody can replace Ribéry and his way of playing football. Di Maria is more of an offensive midfielder in the centre.

“I do not think he's a real winger. I don't know the plans of Pep Guardiola or Matthias Sammer who are responsible for that. But I am convinced that Bayern will have a strong team next season."

http://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-...tian-Schweinsteiger-advised-to-stay-at-Bayern

 

[Kaos]

So Beckenbauer's advice is to stay at Bayern for 2 more seasons then bugger off to the MLS at aged 32/33 when he's still at the peak of his career?

Compelling advice there Franz, Swine's Tiger must feel flattered by the endoresement that he apparently only has 1-2 years left at the highest level.