Never played for the first team, no German ever has
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Never played for the first team, no German ever has
Understandable really as not many leave Germany, bit like the English but not quite as bad.
If we could snare ourselves a couple then we could be on to a winner.
We've never really had first team Spanish players either, now they're the hub of the team! Could Schweini, Gundogan and possibly Hummels start that for the Germans?
Imagine an all German/Spanish team. We'd win all the world cups.
I think you are right, I remember him being several years 3rd or 4th keeper but I never recall him playing even in the League Cup.
Maybe Gundogan, Schweini, Hummels, Müller and Reus
Hell yeah!
I'd personally go for Schurrle ahead of Reus.
Not for me, Reus is streets ahead of Schurrle, goals and assists, assuming he's now over his injury problems which seems the case - would take him over Bale as well
Do not want, beginning to decline and injuries becoming more frequent. Would mcuh rather the funds and wages go towards a top youngster.
Schweinsteiger and Fellaini should fight it out to see who gets number 31 for next season. Be a good fight actually.
Don't forget Sterling
Looks like scenes from the old man only from this season (kits)
Its rather annoying.
We have been crying out for a CM like schwiens for a number of years now.
- 30 is not that old for a CM
- World Cup winner
- Dominated german league for many years
- LVG knows exactly what he's about from prior coaching
- He's a GERMAN CM ffs.
As long as we grab another CM who looks promising and can grow behind him, are the injury issues all that bad? Carrick is 34 and we've been reliant on him throughout his injuries. Surely fading carrick out, and still keeping someone there with experience is a huge positive?
For the odd time carrick/schwien are injured at the same time, like I said have a promising youngster take the reigns there. You want experienced players in that postion for the majority of the season. You cant expect us to buy these 20-26 year olds who've proven themselves, explosive and bags of experience, never had an injury. The ones that exist (if any) head to madrid/barca asap, and the others dont exist.
the odd time Carrick is injuredSchweinsteiger has only been fit enough to make the team or bench for 21 league games this season. In the three years before that his numbers were 25, 28 and 22. So in three of the last four seasons he missed over a quarter of the games.
I don't see how the solution to Carrick being old and suffering injuries is to buy another player who is old and suffering injuries.
I don't see how the solution to Carrick being old and suffering injuries is to buy another player who is old and suffering injuries.
Maybe he's not the solution to Carrick. He'd still be a brilliant signing for us even if it's just for 20 league games a season for the next 3 years.
Depends on how much though
He begun his season in November. He played 26 games out of 31, in CL and Bundesliga.
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Yeah of course but I don't think we are looking at dropping £30m on him. I think it'll be a £12-15m compensation fee of sorts as Bayern let him move and thank him for his service. I wouldn't be adverse to us paying him handsomely though as I think a player like him would bring so much experience and guidance to out young squad and that can be invaluable.
What happens when Carrick and Schweinsteiger get injured at the same time? I like Schweinsteiger and I would love here but if we buy then we will need another midfielder IMO.
As I said, he's not the solution to Carrick, we'd hopefully find another player who is the solution to Carrick but Schweinsteiger would be a huge signing for this team.
He would definitely improve our play. Even having him in the practice sessions with the younger lads would be a bonus. Would have a presence like Scholesy did for his last few years.
Not sure what you are getting at here. He didn't play until November because he was injured, highlighting his fitness problems was the point of my post.
He made the team or bench for 21 of their 34 league games and 7 of their 12 CL games. So 28/46 or 60% of games.
He had one injury, who kept him out, that's not a 'fitness problem'.
Yeah. Bayern Munich won´t pay €60M for DiMaria, but €40-45M plus Schweinsteiger I can totally see. I´m not sure about Dante being included in a deal. He talked about getting a German passport, and I think you have to live/work in Germany for a certain amount of time uninterrupted, seven years or something. He must be pretty close. A United transfer might screw this up.
Schweinsteiger+ €40M for DiMaria is a realistic option, although these "trade"-transfers rarely, if ever, happen.
Not true, he missed most of April with an ankle problem for example.
His record also shows the injury problems go back beyond this year, his last truly injury free season was 10/11 when he was still in his mid-twenties.
Not 'for example', that's the only time he missed games for injuries, a contact injury, that's not a fitness problem too.
Edit: A two weeks injury.
There is no point in me continuing this discussion because you are pretending that injuries either don't exist or, when I tell you about them, that they don't count as fitness problems.
I've posted his record, it's poor both for last season and over a four year period. I'm not going to waste any more time trying to get you to accept reality.
I just put the context, nothing more, there is a difference between missing 22 games for two different injuries and missing 22 games for 10 different injuries, that's my point. The second case is a real fitness problem, the first one is a contact injury who side line the player for 4 months. In my opinion the recurrence is key in the way you judge a player fitness.
He missed a match because of that knock he got in the Dortmund match. He missed most of April because of a real bad flu and coming back from it.
I told it before. His problem in the last 2 and a half seasons was his ankle. He got surgery for it after the treble season but they might have started to early after it - he still played on pain killers during the World Cup. That is why Müller-Wohlfahrt told that a proper rest for him after the World Cup would be the best. He had problems with his knee, too. And that was what they did and why he did not come back prior to November. Especially because of Alonso there was no need to rush him back.
The problem - if you see any - after November was more his role in the team. When he or Alonso played alone it was fine. When they played together on the 6 it was not - the balance was not there. And Schweinsteiger in a more forward role like he played it lately - he does not look bad with it and did some goals and assists - but I do not think that it is so great for the whole balance of the team. (at Bayern)
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Like someone has stated, schwiens is a short term fix. Carrick needs fading out. Personally I think he's a great option to do that for the next few years. LVG knows him well. He's also a proven winner.
If we want to win the prem next season or stand a chance in the champions league, we need someone with his qualities/experience in that area. And whilst I'm all for upcoming quality youngsters, they just dont have the same effect as the more mature CMs. Usually in consistency.
Im sure if LVG is looking at schwiens, he'll be looking elsewhere for the long term to shadow through behind him.
If we want to win the prem next season or stand a chance in the champions league, we need someone with his qualities/experience in that area. And whilst I'm all for upcoming quality youngsters, they just dont have the same effect as the more mature CMs. Usually in consistency.
Im sure if LVG is looking at schwiens, he'll be looking elsewhere for the long term to shadow through behind him.
Agreed.
Bastian can still provide us with a good 3 years until we get a proper replacement. What worries me are the small muscular injuries he tends to get these days which make him miss a fair share of games.
I like him, I rate him. Even if it's for 2 seasons, I think he would be quality for us.
Everytime I read the thread title ... Then even more
... Then even more Only way Sterling has a chance in that fight is if 31 represented number of kids fathered!
The rumour just isn't going away. Is he the new Vidal or is it happening?
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