We don't know everything that's happening behind the scenes but you could be right. Either way, he's handled the situation very well. Not once has he moaned about anything. All the whining is coming from all these other entities that have nothing to do with the situation. So what I really hope is that Man Utd fans stop throwing snide remarks about him, his wages, his fitness, his tennis etc.
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We don't know everything that's happening behind the scenes but you could be right. Either way, he's handled the situation very well. Not once has he moaned about anything. All the whining is coming from all these other entities that have nothing to do with the situation. So what I really hope is that Man Utd fans stop throwing snide remarks about him, his wages, his fitness, his tennis etc.
I have no big problem with what he is doing. He is a man contracted to do a job his new manager doesn't want him to do. Unless he gets as good or better offer else where I can see why he would stay where he is.
And if others would stop whining about how evil the club is being towards him.
Okay, you find me 2 or 3 examples of when Schweini bunked off during the season to watch tennis. Go on.Firstly, being perfectly acceptable means you completely agree that it's fine to spend £200k for just doing that and it's not like he can stay fit to do it as well. You make it sound like it's fine for the club to waste that £200k per week. They might should have just give the fans a free ticket instead of splashing money like that for nothing. Our money isn't infinite mate.
Summer? Summer break? Ffs I already said apart from break or holiday mate.
You said it yourself that you personally think we should keep him and there is no reason we shouldn't and now you just can't be arsed anymore if he left?
Well it's not like I'm blaming him for being an injury prone and poor fitness and enjoy the money by doing nothing but I expected people should understand why Jose doesn't fancy him in his plan. Can't expect that Schweinsteiger is able to do the same job as what Jose gave to Fellaini as a no 6. I also can't see his leg and fitness to be able to do what Pogba does either. So the best thing for both club and player is that he leaves so he can play games and we can use that £200k per week for something better.
Not being arsed about something doesn't mean I can't be arsed anymore if he left due to this conversation. I said I think we should keep him on as a mentor for the season but if he left I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest. I'm only arguing my point against you in such a way because you came up with some bizarre reasons for why he should leave, excluding the wage bill.
I agree in that respect. He's not going to provide much on the pitch what so ever, but as I said and as players have proven in the past it can be a good idea keeping such an experienced player around such a young squad. Bailly, Shaw, Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Lingard etc could all benefit from training with the likes of Schweini, even if he doesn't play. If you're asking me if it's worth £200k a week for that priveledge that obviously I'd say no but if he does stay on and play that role I'd understand the decision.
Ideally, we'd half his wage bill at least and keep him on for another season. Not sure whether he'd do that.
Exactly. He has the right to stay and we have the right to leave him out of the squad.
Jose's squad his decision.
I wish to be paid 200k a week to train with the United reserves and to watch games as a spectator
Spot on. Strip back all the debates for and against him and this is where things stand.
I didn't say that he doesn't deserve to have it however he wants. I am actually glad he can have it like that because he is proven top manager. I just can't stand people making/imagining some silly arguments about why is he getting rid of Schweinsteiger like they thought the same all the time, when just 3 or 4 months ago no one rated Carrick, Schneiderlin, Herrera or Fellaini over him.
100 % Support for Mourinho on that decision. Schweinsteiger has been a flop for us and does not deserve a place compared to the other midfielders.
And I do not understand why Bayern do not make an offer for him to return? Come on Karl-Heinz.
And I do not understand why Bayern do not make an offer for him to return? Come on Karl-Heinz.
I really dont know why some are so angry over this, he was a LVG gamble that did not come off.
He was never really fit , even when he did play he looked unfit.
He was never really fit , even when he did play he looked unfit.
Example one was when he went to Miami. Example two was when he went to Madrid. Both of them were done in 2016 during the season. Still want go on about this? If yes, what about next time you provide me when did De Gea went to Spain during the season, I can provide you examples that his girlfriend was the one went to Manchester.
Your post is weird. You said you can't be arsed if he leaves the club but you can still be arsed if he leaves because of my posts, right now I'm like wtf mate?
I still remember how you mentioned in your first post that you don't see any reason why we shouldn't keep him, I'm sorry mate but my reasons why he should leave aren't bizarre at all, injury prone, lacks of match fitness, not suitable in the manager's system. How are these three reasons considered to be bizarre? Two of them have been proved last season and even before. As for the other one, Jose has already said it himself that it is difficult for him to play and he was dropped to U23. Even Pep wouldn't mind to let him go cheaply and rather have 34 years old Alonso and his left back Alaba to play in midfield.
What is this? And you call my reasons bizarre? Think first before you talk, Jose has already picked Carrick, Rooney, and Ibra for this experience role, do we need another one? Especially knowing that he is likely going to spend his time with injury and won't fit in manager's system? And it's not like I expect him to go off the training ground to babysit the youngsters, especially that he has his own wife and family.
It just shows what Pep thinks of Bastian.
I believe LVG bought Bastian because he had a good relationship with him when they were both at Bayern. Unfortunately, Bastian has aged a lot since then and is no longer the player he once was.
The problem for him is injury, which hinders his match fitness, which in turn effects how he plays in each game (if picked).
Last season we saw him always returning from injury and he very rarely was able to play 90 minutes.
Pep's assessment was 100% correct when he said that Bastian has not been match fit for 3 years.
Fixed? Right, not sure what you're on about to be honest.
Thank you Jose
Bayern need to know their place. We are not some run of the mill German side they can bully.
Rumminige loves getting his nose stuck in other people's business. City fans hate him too. You can see why.
Careful, the Bayern swarm will be here any moment now, to crucify you.
Thank you Jose
Bayern need to know their place. We are not some run of the mill German side they can bully.
Rumminige loves getting his nose stuck in other people's business. City fans hate him too. You can see why.
''Don't care''
(in my best Andy Tate voice)
This is the best decision for United. Not particularly bothered by Bayern or anyone else. They can whine all they want,decision has been made.
Now hopefully they can come and sign back ''one of the best midfielders in the world'' and we can keep our Herrera's and Fellaini's.
One of the best things José's done so far here is identifying how rubbish Bastian is and not giving him the benefit of the doubt based solely off of his name and career. I don't see the issue here.
Jose with a good counter point.
This is the way it should be. No more diplomatic shite like previous managers who were pushed around all over the place. Let it be the us vs them mentality again
This is the way it should be. No more diplomatic shite like previous managers who were pushed around all over the place. Let it be the us vs them mentality again
It's 6 words though.
Yes, unfortunately
Since when we started to run scared from the German version of Celtic fans?
The bold: what on earth are you on about? I said I'm not arsed if he leaves the club, that means I wouldn't be bothered if I left the club. The only reason I mentioned your posts is cause you suggested I was changing my mind on my stance with Schweini because of your posts, which I'm not.
Ultimately, I'd like to see him stay. Are you denying that having Schweini in and around the club wouldn't benefit the young players? He's the biggest legend we've currently got. I think you're forgetting who the man is.
You never cited those reasons before. Your main bloody point was he watches too much tennis. In regard to De Gea I don't have a fecking clue where you're getting it from that I said he goes off to Madrid during the season. I clearly said De Gea went to visit his girlfriend through the summer, like I thought Schweini went to watch tennis during the summer
You're making a massive thing out of my initial comments and frankly it's daft. You have your opinion, I have mine. Shut up now.
He'd probably refuse, but it might be useful for Basti to play in the reserves if he can't get into the first team squad. Might teach the youngsters a thing or two.
Like I already said before, your post is weird.
Wouldn't be more benefit for both parties if he leaves, don't you agree? If he leaves we can use his wage for something better and Schweinsteiger himself can get games time. What's the point having another expensive player who's not going to be suitable in manager's system just to guide the youngster? It's not like he can help the youngster either if he keeps getting injuries. And also we already have enough option for that role Carrick, Zlatan, Rooney. If it will be benefit for young players, can't Bayern just sign him he's their legend after all.
Yes I did! In fact i even said it in my 2nd to 4th sentences from my first post.
I never said he should leave because of watching tennis. The watching tennis thing was to response your excuse of 'guiding our youngster'. Which is ironically how is he going to help our youngster if he keeps getting injuries and how is he going to help our youngster off the training ground if he has his wife that he wants to visit.
Mate, you are the one who called my reasons as bizarre which most people in here including the managers have the same reasons as me. Injuries, fitness, not suitable in manager's system.
You even mentioned that there is no reason why we shouldn't keep him lol.
Not leaving this window then.
I think he will go to the MLS next year when their window opens.
I think he will go to the MLS next year when their window opens.
Honestly just playing him in Europa and Cup games wont be a bad idea. I dont get why he is completely frozen out. Its not like we have Perreira to give him the opportunity either.
Agreed
I dont really see why.
He has at least Herrera, Morgan and Carrick ahead of him.
Jose barely rotates either.
The game time can be given to them instead
Sooo, he knows no one else wants him this window...
It's because our squad is already larger than Mourinho likes and keeping six senior midfielders happy when only two of them can play each game would be extremely difficult.
I think he's been freezed out due to wages, and I think Bastian is smart enough to know this, hence why he isn't doing a Joe Hart and panicking.
Once the window closes I'm sure Mourinho will involve him in Europa League, League Cup for many reasons, not least because it's putting him in the shop window for January.
There is little evidence to back the point that this is wage related.
If we were so hellbent on saving wages, we could have easily have not renewed Carrick's contract.
Its much more likely that Bastian simply knows that he wont find another club in this period, and has no plans to play in Europe again.
There is little to suggest that Bastian will ever play for us. Jose said it in the Summer, that all players not in his plans will not play a single minute. Nothing has changed since then.
I would be stunned if he was named in the EL squad or ever played for us again in any capacity.
Just go .Free up those wages.
Really?
We're hardly overly blessed in central midfield despite what Mourinho says. Two injuries and he'd be next in line.
Why would no other PL team take a chance on him?
Ok so he will cost appox £7M in wages. But he is definitely worth that money.
Ok so he will cost appox £7M in wages. But he is definitely worth that money.
It's bizarre he's not been linked with anyone in Europe, let alone the PL. At this stage, you would usually have a few clubs trying to negotiate something by now.
Thats Fellaini, Herrera, Morgan, Carrick, Blind and TFM in the first team squad that can play in midfield. It would take one hell of an inury crisis to even have him back training with the first team, never mind playing . Bastian isnt even part of the first team
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