I agree. However he (and Bayern) should stop playing the righteous card and fans should stop being so stupid in portraying him as some sort of victim. This is all Moyes standing ovation at OT all over again.
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I agree. However he (and Bayern) should stop playing the righteous card and fans should stop being so stupid in portraying him as some sort of victim. This is all Moyes standing ovation at OT all over again.
What you'd expect from a LFC supporter.
Punchable username.This man is keeping a record of all my posts on the Caf, unbelievable
To make a few things clear:
1) I wanted Fellaini sold, but I maintained that Jose will get the best of him, just that his peak may not be good enough for United
2) Well, turns out his peak is pretty damn good (so far), so feck that, let the man play because he has earned it on merit (again, so far)
3) I prefer Basti to stay and like you, I agree that people should chalk off whatever happened last year, what exactly is your point for coming at me?
It's great the search function isn't it? It means you don't have to keep a record of peoples posts, but when someone pops in with implying a poster is being knee jerk, it's great to see if that very person is a knee jerk poster too.This man is keeping a record of all my posts on the Caf, unbelievable
To make a few things clear:
1) I wanted Fellaini sold, but I maintained that Jose will get the best of him, just that his peak may not be good enough for United
2) Well, turns out his peak is pretty damn good (so far), so feck that, let the man play because he has earned it on merit (again, so far)
3) I prefer Basti to stay and like you, I agree that people should chalk off whatever happened last year, what exactly is your point for coming at me?
I still like Basti and I hope he looks at players like Blind, Fellaini and Mata who were supposed to be shipped but worked hard and proved to José they should be in the team. If he's going to stay, he should prove to Mou that he is worthy of a place in the team.
What he is saying is until he can sort out a move abroad, he will train and be professional.
What's so wrong about that? How is that being righteous? So he should accept a move to Burnley on whatever wages just because Mourinho doesn't fancy him?
What's so wrong about that? How is that being righteous? So he should accept a move to Burnley on whatever wages just because Mourinho doesn't fancy him?
So by your logic, I am only not kneejerk if I never change my opinion in spite of the newly presented evidence - such as but not limited to Felli's form, no other CM acquisitions aside from Pogba, Herrera/Schneid/Carrick not exactly pulling trees - because of.... what exactly?
Amazing. Just amazing.
If he stays fine
If he goes fine
I Really aren't bothered.
I'm not going to attack him like some people have on here.
If he goes fine
I Really aren't bothered.
I'm not going to attack him like some people have on here.
The feck does dignity have to do with it? He is trying to sort out a move and until it materializes. He will train and be professional. What more do you want?
Neither of them looked great last season, but Carrick had a few good matches when he had space in midfield. He's a good option coming from the bench to see out matches when we're ahead. Schweinsteiger was just average and overweight last season, he doesn't seem to take club football very seriously anymore.
Righteous card? Apart from this he hasn't uttered a word? Or you will prefer he goes down all guns blazing?
The basis of your entire theory is based on conspiracies that have no proof whatsoever.
It could simply be that Jose doesn't think the player is good enough. After last season, who can blame him.
You wanting bastian sold for a poor season last year under LvG is no different from you wanting Fellaini sold is it? If Fellaini can turn things around under a new manager, there is no saying Bastian can't can he?
Anyway I do actually think it is the last we'll see of Bastian playing for us, but I do believe he deserves a bit more respect than what he is getting in here. Why should he feck off with his tail between his legs if he feels he can offer something at United?
He has a history of doing this and, while his decisions have been proven right more often than not (Casillas, Mata being recent examples), let's call it like it is.
Putting him back in the spotlight would hardly help matters.
We have decided on a role, its with the reserves.
Sums up my feelings. This isn't the NFL where contracts aren't guaranteed.
We can bring Carrick for that, he already seems to be 4th choice behind Pogba/Herrera/Fellaini at the moment or you could say second behind Fellaini if we consider Herrera to be competing for the spot with Pogba, we don't really need another guy for the dictating thing.
And no, the wages are not really irrelevant. We're taking about wages not for somebody who's our XI player but for somebody who's not even in manager's plans as far as the bench is concerned. There's absolutely no reason to pay around 200k pounds to somebody who won't see the football pitch.
I prefer Basti to stay
What part of that sentence do you not understand? What exactly are you on about?
Oh comeon. We've seen his brother posting 'disrespectful' and him saying that 'United were the only club I would leave Bayern for' and that 'he will be ready when the club needs him'. Not to forget the jabs coming from Bayern towards our direction. The reality is that he left Bayern because he is finished at top level. Bastian knows that (else he would work hard to rescind his contract and move elsewhere) and Bayern knows that (else they would bid for him). This is a Hargreaves V2 saga with the only difference that Owen didn't miraculously healed himself just before the Euros
I don't blame him for signing for us. If we were that stupid to handle a contract to a player who wasn't able to stay fit throughout his last 3 years at Bayern and to trust a manager who hasn't won the CL since the 90s despite leading top clubs then we deserve all the consequences of it. However when one considers that we're giving this former player his last pay cheque, something even Bayern refuse to do, then they should at least shut up. After all United had always refrained to speak about the treatment their former players had after leaving the club.
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Probably because I find it hard to believe you would prefer him to stay after posting this
Christ mate, so much hate.
Things can change rapidly in football.
Schweinsteiger, if he is happy to stay in the reserves, is right to put it up to Mourinho.
As long as he remains professional and fulfils the terms of his contract, then there's sweet FA Mourinho can do about it.
Schweinsteiger, if he is happy to stay in the reserves, is right to put it up to Mourinho.
As long as he remains professional and fulfils the terms of his contract, then there's sweet FA Mourinho can do about it.
do you know what @MounchesterUtd I think you were implying that the caf was now referring to basti that way. Apologise I got the wrong end of the stick there mate. 
I must be
A player of his experience and caliber can be an asset if used properly. Instead the poor fecker is ending up as road kill.
I doubt Mourinho cares if he's professional, keeps his mouth shut and trains with the reserves.
Didn't Mourinho specifically point out he wants 23 players + 3 goalkeepers though? Normally he only wants 20 players, those extra three are because of Europa League this year
What I mean by this is that we've got those 23 players without including Schweinsteiger.
Valencia, Darmian, Bailly, Smalling, Jones, Blind, Rojo, Shaw, Mensah = 9
Pogba, Fellaini, Carrick, Herrera, Schneiderlin, Mata, Rooney, = 7
Henrikh, Zlatan, Rashford, Martial, Young, Memphis, Lingard = 7
------------------------------------------------------------------- = 23
So I think Schweinsteigers wages have got feck all to do with us bringing in new players. It's the fact we already have 23 players disregarding Schweinsteiger completely, and we have to offload one of those 23 players mentioned before we are signing new ones.
What, and you think Schwine's wage has nothing to do with that?
I really hope Mourinho at least gives him a chance
That 'role' was set when the board were hopeful of selling him in this window, under Mourinho's instruction.
Having him spend his days at Carrington with the reserves doesn't make the situation go away.
United would come out of this looking better if they clarified matters. Instead of pretending he doesn't exist.
I think his salary plays an important role in what happens. Mou may have closed an eye that Bastian was finished and that he suffered an injury which ruined him throughout the season only to miraculously show up for the Euros. However he can't really afford having a 200k a week player sitting on the bench and giving us that 10-15 minutes of play.
That's why I always said to people in here that until Fletcher, Ando, Giggs and Scholes were still around we had little hope of buying the top quality CMs we needed. There's a wage structure and that wage structure need to be respected
Its likely a combination of his attributes and wages. I'm sure Woodward doesn't want a 200k plus weekly wage on his books if Mourinho has no plans to use him.
But it is pretty clear, isn't it. He's surplus to the requirements, he isn't needed, Mourinho doesn't feel he needs him training with the first team or is simply seduced by his alleged leadership qualities some see in him and thus, for the sake of our youth, let's him play with the kids.
What do you expect to happen? Call him back up for the first team if he isn't sold this window and pretend like nothing has happened?
Yet you still have no proof in the other cases .
Conclusive proof that is. Yet you have made a strong statement based on just hunches.
The club should at least acknowledge his existence. Instead of feigning ignorance.
No need to treat any member of staff, playing or otherwise with contempt.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/First-Team.aspx?pageNo=2
The club still acknowledges his existance
We expect players we want to stay with our club to "respect the contract", but when one wants to stay and we don't want the player anymore, he is somehow leeching the club? One cannot have it both ways. He has the right to see out his contract and if he has decided to stay and work with the reserves, then so be it. He could easily have given interviews or leaked info to his journalist friends about how he is getting mistreated. He has been going about his business and even cheers for us as a fan and now has come out and given his stance.
Just like how the 89M for Pogba is not our money that was spent, neither is the salary paid for Basti. He has a contract, he is gonna get paid and for now, he has not damaged our club in any way or form. Who knows what happens in future, maybe he can change the manager's mind. A lot of posters would feel silly then.
Just like how the 89M for Pogba is not our money that was spent, neither is the salary paid for Basti. He has a contract, he is gonna get paid and for now, he has not damaged our club in any way or form. Who knows what happens in future, maybe he can change the manager's mind. A lot of posters would feel silly then.
So what he basically said was he's ready if the club ever needs him but he's happy enough to sit and do nothing and still get a pay check every week.
He's at the end of his career so if he really wanted to do something before he retires then he'd leave and get playing time elsewhere. There's no doubt clubs have at least enquired about his availability so clearly he's happy enough to just leech off the club. Mourinho has obviously made it clear he isn't in his plans so why else would he stay. We have so many options in midfield I doubt he will ever get a look in.
He's at the end of his career so if he really wanted to do something before he retires then he'd leave and get playing time elsewhere. There's no doubt clubs have at least enquired about his availability so clearly he's happy enough to just leech off the club. Mourinho has obviously made it clear he isn't in his plans so why else would he stay. We have so many options in midfield I doubt he will ever get a look in.
We cant win whatever we say.
United have a history of keeping matters in-house, and I dont think we will act differently this time.
This will blow over just like the Valdes thing did.
I understand your point but I don't honk Basi hast anything to do about what his brother posts and what comes from Bayern. In the latter's case it's probably cause they were asked by journalists.
The stuff Basti says about "Man Utd being the only club he would leave Bayern for" its not the first or second time he's said such. He's said it many times. What he's saying is he doesn't have the motivation to play for any other club. You can't blame him for that.
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