But, but he doesn't care about the money! He just wants to play football! Basti Fecking Schwein!
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This sums it up perfectly.
Insightful post, care to elaborate.. Because I can.
The fact that he is unwilling to stay at a high level in Europe is telling, he is only 32.
One man's opinion wont change, Jose Mourinho.He is better than Carrick, and sitting next to Pogba in a team that is taking more risks and making more intelligent movement off the ball he would be fantastic in this CURRENT United team in my opinion. I would love to see him get a couple of games, peoples opinions would change on him quicker than they have with Blind and Fellaini. This forum is very fickle at times.
Thankfully that is all that matters.
This probably also puts a dent into any more potential signings I reckon, freeing up his massive wage would've gone a long way to adding an extra player or two.
Sounds like we're stuck with him. If he decides to sit out his deal, as he's obviously fully entitled to do, that'll become one of those topics that Mourinho will start chipping away about in due course
If Bayern are so horrified by his treatment perhaps they should take him back?
Oh, you don't want to? Oh, Okay, then sfup.
Oh, you don't want to? Oh, Okay, then sfup.
I cant see him going this window, equally so, I cant see him playing for us ever again.
I can see us eventually buying out his contract though.
whats he meant to do, the guy must know his body can't take it any more and his career is coming to an end, do you really expect him to walk away from the 15 to 20 million he is gonna earn staying for the next to years? can you honestly say you would?
for my part i'm just happy he isn't been disruptive and seems to be supporting the team, in this situation thats the best we can hope for.
I wasn't making a like for like comparison with Zouma. Actually, you have a point there. He should be used like Xavi in his last season under Lucho. Picture this: you're leading 1 or 2-0, and you bring in someone who can dictate the game and has a lifetime of experience dealing with pressure situations, I mean, this man has literally seen it all on the pitch. Who better to see a game out?
Him and Schneiderlin's wages are irrelevant to the discussion. United let their former record signing sit on the bench, while Young and Jones are (allegedly) near 100k a weak earners. Money is not a problem, we all know that, and while Schneierlin is young, he's not exactly at the age where he can get THAT much better. I'd much rather bring in TFM since you brought him up.
Quality post, mate
I know he's a legend in the game, but he hasn't been a legend for us. This may sound cruel, but when I look at him I can't help but think of LVG. He was supposed to be a player that knew the philosophy inside out, but ended up letting us down in a big way.
The club should play his game by offering him to be re-integrated into the first team if he signs a new contract on a reduced salary (which is understandable since he's a squad player). That will push him to show his true colours
If Mourinho doesn't want him at all, would it be too much hassle to simply buy-out his contract?
Some very harsh words from our fans on this matter which is a little surprising.
He is better than Carrick, and sitting next to Pogba in a team that is taking more risks and making more intelligent movement off the ball he would be fantastic in this CURRENT United team in my opinion. I would love to see him get a couple of games, peoples opinions would change on him quicker than they have with Blind and Fellaini. This forum is very fickle at times.
Typical Caf kneejerking. In his first 2/3 months, most of these people were saying he's actually better than his Bayern level and that he's easily the best CM in the PL. Now, he's a fat, useless and lazy scumbag that's 'disrespecting' the fans.
How is he disrespecting the fans ffs?
Wouldn't it be too much hassle for Basti to negotiate a recession of contract by mutual agreement?
Good idea. Also we should make the offer and solution public so if he refuses it the PR nightmare lands at his door, and not at the clubs.
leave the man alone, some bitter posters on here. If he was in Mou's plans, the same guys would post BFS on here. I like it how everybody knows exactly what to interpret in his comments.Most likely, yeah, because it seems he wants to stay to earn his very generous pay-check.
Jose has defined tactics that he wants to play and sees the less fit, injury prone Bastian as unsuitable compared to Morgan. Surely a manager should have the license to choose who he wants in his team.
The choice was never one between Morgan and Bastian. It was between Carrick and Bastian. Van Gaal chose Bastian, Jose chose the former. I dont know how many times that has to be repeated till it finally clicks with some people.
Apparently, he's been putting the United-loving persona on as an elaborate scheme to hustle money off of the Glazers, which is an insult to the fans' intellect
Some utter shite being spouted on here. It's not his fault he's not in Mourinho's plans and he's handling the situation well because he's experienced and smart enough to know that's part of football.
No need to insult him just because he didn't fulfil the expectations last season. It's idiotic.
No need to insult him just because he didn't fulfil the expectations last season. It's idiotic.
Exactly
Don't take me wrong. I don't blame him for milking the system. It was us that allowed him to do that in the first place (we did the same with other players like Hargreaves). What kind of pisses me off is him (and Bayern) are acting so righteous when in reality they both know that he's finished as a player and he's here milking the system.
Who would want to lose few millions? Jose took a few millions when he was sacked by Chelsea. I am sure if United buy his rest of contract he would leave.
Yeah, as long as we pay his £1m a month for the rest of his contract he'll willingly go on a very long holiday instead of joining the Chinese revo-fecking-lution!
"earning"
Really? So when did 'apparently' become the truth?Apparently, he's been putting the United-loving persona on as an elaborate scheme to hustle money off of the Glazers, which is an insult to the fans' intellect
Also for someone that has gone from wanting fellaini sold, to then asking for him to be a starter in a line up, you of all people should know that whatever happened last year regarding performances should be chalked off.
We offered him a contract. It's ridiculous to be upset at the idea of him wanting to complete that contract. It's not his fault we won't let him do the thing we contracted him to do.
Yup. The guy cannot win, if he goes back to Germany and does not appear at the ground he will get slagged off, If he comes to games and stays professional he gets stick. Unreal.
Again, sure, he has his tactics. Don't get me wrong, the man is my favorite manager ever. This just smells of a power play by him as a way to show his 'power' on the LVG-ites in the club though.
Not sure how it was a choice between Basti and Carrick. Aside from both being serial winners and veterans with tons of experience, they hardly resemble each other's style of play. Jose himself said that he will need to rotate come September, is he really putting this much trust on Fellaini and Schneiderlin?
Well many players did that. Cantona could have stayed for another 1-2 years with us but chose to retire when his time was up. Schmeichel left the club soon after the treble when he could sit up and earn 2-3 more years of top salary. Roberto Baggio took a massive salary cut to go to Bologna rather then sit out for the remaining of his contract and he remained at Brescia despite United, Barcelona and Liverpool came knocking at his door (he felt he owed the club that much for believing in him when no one did). Not everyone is a Bogarde/Basti. Some have some dignity.
Can't imagine the club are thrilled about him breaking his silence. Then again, he has been jettisoned to the reserves and touted around other clubs.
If he's not leaving in this window, are United really going to leave the situation 'as is' until an MLS or Chinese club makes an approach?
Would now be better for all parties (providing relationships aren't beyond repair) to come to an agreement on his role in the Manchester United squad.
It's not a healthy situation.
If he's not leaving in this window, are United really going to leave the situation 'as is' until an MLS or Chinese club makes an approach?
Would now be better for all parties (providing relationships aren't beyond repair) to come to an agreement on his role in the Manchester United squad.
It's not a healthy situation.
Agree, but I don't blame him, I'd do the same if was him. It's the club and LVG's fault for giving him such a lucrative deal, even I could see he was well past it before we bought him.
Why are people so annoyed? Of course he is not going to accept less money at some other club, especially at some lesser club than United, how many players in the history actually did that?
Whether you want to accept it or not, he is acting like every sane person in the world would do. What exactly people want him to do, give his money to the club that decided to gave him a big contract last year? We really have some thick people here.
What's actually annoying is that he is still probably better player than both Rooney and Carrick, our other two "older" players who are way past their best too, but yet we are giving them great treatment, but are getting rid of Schweinsteiger before the season even started. But some people are so blindly in love with Mourinho that they can't have their own opinion on some players.
It would be interesting to search old posts of year ago from same people who are against him now, could do it later actually.
Of course he is not going to accept less money at some other club, especially at some lesser club than United, how many players in the history actually did that?Whether you want to accept it or not, he is acting like every sane person in the world would do. What exactly people want him to do, give his money to the club that decided to gave him a big contract last year? We really have some thick people here.
What's actually annoying is that he is still probably better player than both Rooney and Carrick, our other two "older" players who are way past their best too, but yet we are giving them great treatment, but are getting rid of Schweinsteiger before the season even started. But some people are so blindly in love with Mourinho that they can't have their own opinion on some players.
It would be interesting to search old posts of year ago from same people who are against him now, could do it later actually.
WTF is wrong with you people?
You want him to go and play for some no mark club in Europe just so you guys can feel good about yourselves?
He probably feels he doesn't have the motivation/stamina to play at the highest level so wants to go abroad. Perfectly reasonable position to have.
And until he can sort out a move, preferably the MLS...he will train and make himself ready for January. We gave him the contract, that's our obligation.
Some of you are ridiculous.
You want him to go and play for some no mark club in Europe just so you guys can feel good about yourselves?
He probably feels he doesn't have the motivation/stamina to play at the highest level so wants to go abroad. Perfectly reasonable position to have.
And until he can sort out a move, preferably the MLS...he will train and make himself ready for January. We gave him the contract, that's our obligation.
Some of you are ridiculous.
This man is keeping a record of all my posts on the Caf, unbelievable
To make a few things clear:
1) I wanted Fellaini sold, but I maintained that Jose will get the best of him, just that his peak may not be good enough for United
2) Well, turns out his peak is pretty damn good (so far), so feck that, let the man play because he has earned it on merit (again, so far)
3) I prefer Basti to stay and like you, I agree that people should chalk off whatever happened last year, what exactly is your point for coming at me?
Can't wait til we get back into the Champions League and get the chance to batter Bayern. Self righteous tossers and fast becoming my most hated club.
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